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Old 11-09-2013, 11:05 AM
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Maria Antonia Carvalho Moreira and Maria Francisca Braga Ratto (born Maria Antonia and Maria Francisca de Orleans e Bragança), daughters of Prince Eudes of Orleans-Braganza and his morganatic wife, Mrs. Mercedes de Orleans e Bragança. They are identical twins, born on August 18, 1979.

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Princesses Maria Thereza and Maria Eleonora of Orleans-Braganza, they are the daughters of Prince Francisco and Princess Claudia of Orleans-Braganza, born in January 31, 1984. The lady on the middle is their older sister, Princess Maria Elisabeth, Mrs. Trindade de Souza (b. 1982).

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Valentina and Eudes de Orleans e Bragança being carried by their parents, Eudes and Patrícia de Orleans e Bragança, with their grandmother, Mercedes de Orleans e Bragança. They were born on 2011.

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Old 11-09-2013, 11:20 AM
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Wow, lots of twins in de Orleans-Braganza family :)
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Old 11-09-2013, 02:09 PM
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Maybe HGD Stephanie will have twins. Isn't Guillaume of Orleans-Braganca? I do not know about the various Braganca lines, so I don't know if he is Orleans-Braganca. But his aunt and uncle were twins.
When I was sick during early pregnancy (same "gravidus" as Duchess of Cambridge) the doctor said, how I hope you have twins so you won't have to do this again! (my husband had many twins in his family). Am I the only one who wonders how Kate could want another pregnancy under the circumstances? It's not just a little headache!
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Maybe HGD Stephanie will have twins. Isn't Guillaume of Orleans-Braganca? I do not know about the various Braganca lines, so I don't know if he is Orleans-Braganca.
No, Mariel. The Hereditary Grand Duke of Luxembourg is a member of the House of Bourbon-Parma, but his great-great-grandmother was a Infanta Maria Ana of Portugal, a member of the House of Braganza (ancestor House of the Orleans-Braganzas), who became Grand Duchess of Luxembourg.

Grand Duchess Maria Ana was daughter of King Miguel of Portugal. The Imperial Family of Brazil (House of Orleans-Braganza) descends of Emperor Pedro I (King Pedro IV of Portugal), brother of King Miguel.

But Hereditary Grand Duke Guillaume of Luxembourg is a second cousin of Prince Rafael of Brazil, because their share the late Grand Duchess Charlotte of Luxembourg as great-grandmother.

Now, I made me think about that Prince Rafael and his sisters, Princesses Amélia and Maria Gabriela can have twin children, because this genetical "trait" runs in the House of Orleans-Braganza and in the House of Bourbon-Parma.

Not only Prince Jean of Luxembourg and Princess Margaretha of Liechtenstein are twins, their brother, Prince Guillaume, is father of twins, Prince Léopold and Princess Charlotte of Nassau.
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Here's hoping for twins for HGD Stephanie and HGD Guillaume! And soon would be good.
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Here's hoping for twins for HGD Stephanie and HGD Guillaume! And soon would be good.
But IF they have identical twins, who will be the heir apparent?
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Old 11-10-2013, 12:24 PM
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If HGD Stephanie has twins; then I guess the heir/ess apparent will be whichever twin is born first, this was the case with Prince Georg Friedrich and Princess Sophie of Prussia's twins, Prince Carl Friedrich was born first so he became the heir.

It would be interesting to know if there has ever been a case where royal twins have reigned together, but I doubt it.
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Were Prince Philipp of Hesse-Kassel and his twin brother Prince Wolfgang of Hesse-Kassel identical twins?
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But IF they have identical twins, who will be the heir apparent?
Same as fraternal, the eldest twin. Eldest child is eldest child. Lux practices equal primogeniture so we wouldn't see what happened in Monaco.
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Are Prince laurent's twins Identical ?
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But IF they have identical twins, who will be the heir apparent?
There were two systems:
- the one who is given birth first
- the one who is given birth last

That last one was in the belief that the one coming out last, was the first in, the first conceived and so the eldest child...
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There were two systems:
- the one who is given birth first
- the one who is given birth last

That last one was in the belief that the one coming out last, was the first in, the first conceived and so the eldest child...



Currently in Belgium and in Denmark, the twin who was given birth first is ahead in the line of succession to the throne. I believe the same rule would apply in other European realms if a similar situation arose.
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Old 01-21-2019, 07:29 PM
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There were two systems:
- the one who is given birth first
- the one who is given birth last

That last one was in the belief that the one coming out last, was the first in, the first conceived and so the eldest child...
In which system that would still be practiced? I agree with Mbruno that in all reigning European monarchies it's birth order that counts. I understand that the Orleanists have a different opinion; is that just them or are there other non-reigning royal families holding to that principle?

Interestingly enough, another example of twins of which one is to be the head of the family are the boys of the Luis Alphonso and Margarita. Luis is the elder (firstborn) of the two and therefore the one to succeed his father as Legitimist pretender to the French throne. So, clearly the Legitimists are of a different opinion than the Orleanists.
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I have a vague recollection of reading something about this around the time that the twins were born in Monaco. It had to do with how the birth occurred. If it was a vaginal birth then the first out was considered the oldest. If it was a cesarean then the last out was considered the oldest because the first one taken would have been the one that would have been born last in a vaginal birth. There was something about the fact that the second twin was usually in distress or there would be issues with the umbilical cord wrapping around the neck so that baby had to be taken first in the c-section. I am not sure I am explaining this well. It made sense at the time but I never had any children so what do I know!
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Are their any photos of Identical Royal twins


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