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07-24-2013, 09:34 AM
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No, I don't think it's bad taste to discuss the truth of her figure. It is what it is.
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07-24-2013, 09:38 AM
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The style of the dress is perfect for a women who has just given birth but it somehow reminds me of a hospital gown with polka dots and it also reminds me of Diana's dress while leaving hospital (the polka dots). I would've preferred it if it was a solid color instead.
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Agree completely. I thought of all available designs or prints etc she's coming up with polka dots  The dress itself is nice & Kate looks good. In terms of hair, it looks nice, nothing special, but I can't figure out why the hairdresser had to come to the hospital for this result.
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07-24-2013, 09:59 AM
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I'm not trying to offend anyone but I'm beginning to think that comparing everything Kate wears or does to what Diana wore or did it starting to become a bit obsessive.. We know that giving Kate his mother's engagement ring was to honor his mother but IMO the dress she wore out of the hospital looked nothing like the dress Diana wore. Kate's is sleeveless, had a belt, is blue with a rounded neckline. Diana's had sleeves, no belt, in green with a deep v neckline with white collar. Kate's dress style was very similar to others she wore during the pregnancy. Are we going to get this type of comparison every time she wears a dress the same color as one Diana once wore? It just seems like everyone is trying to make Kate into Diana.
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07-24-2013, 10:51 AM
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I'm not trying to offend anyone but I'm beginning to think that comparing everything Kate wears or does to what Diana wore or did it starting to become a bit obsessive.. We know that giving Kate his mother's engagement ring was to honor his mother but IMO the dress she wore out of the hospital looked nothing like the dress Diana wore. Kate's is sleeveless, had a belt, is blue with a rounded neckline. Diana's had sleeves, no belt, in green with a deep v neckline with white collar. Kate's dress style was very similar to others she wore during the pregnancy. Are we going to get this type of comparison every time she wears a dress the same color as one Diana once wore? It just seems like everyone is trying to make Kate into Diana.
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Totally agree. Kate is a person in her own right. She needs to be allowed time to develop her confidence in her role as a parent without every move being compared to what Diana did.
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07-24-2013, 11:05 AM
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Pretty, summery and very feminine!
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07-24-2013, 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Rocketmom
I'm not trying to offend anyone but I'm beginning to think that comparing everything Kate wears or does to what Diana wore or did it starting to become a bit obsessive.. We know that giving Kate his mother's engagement ring was to honor his mother but IMO the dress she wore out of the hospital looked nothing like the dress Diana wore. Kate's is sleeveless, had a belt, is blue with a rounded neckline. Diana's had sleeves, no belt, in green with a deep v neckline with white collar. Kate's dress style was very similar to others she wore during the pregnancy. Are we going to get this type of comparison every time she wears a dress the same color as one Diana once wore? It just seems like everyone is trying to make Kate into Diana.
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Definitely agree. I don't see any similarities with Diana's dress. In fact, Kate's dress looks exactly like the black and white polka dot one she wore to Warner Brothers Studios back in April.
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07-24-2013, 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Rocketmom
I'm not trying to offend anyone but I'm beginning to think that comparing everything Kate wears or does to what Diana wore or did it starting to become a bit obsessive.. We know that giving Kate his mother's engagement ring was to honor his mother but IMO the dress she wore out of the hospital looked nothing like the dress Diana wore. Kate's is sleeveless, had a belt, is blue with a rounded neckline. Diana's had sleeves, no belt, in green with a deep v neckline with white collar. Kate's dress style was very similar to others she wore during the pregnancy. Are we going to get this type of comparison every time she wears a dress the same color as one Diana once wore? It just seems like everyone is trying to make Kate into Diana.
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Starting to? The style comparisons have been happening since well before William and Kate were even married. But I think some people interpret the comparisons differently - I think they're often harmless, as in this case, where I think some people went "oh, look, Kate's wearing a polka-dotted dress to bring her son home, and Diana did too, what a sweet coincidence". Certainly, the dresses bear no other similarities (and thank goodness for that - '80's maternity fashions were horrendous!)
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07-24-2013, 12:30 PM
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Starting to? The style comparisons have been happening since well before William and Kate were even married. But I think some people interpret the comparisons differently - I think they're often harmless, as in this case, where I think some people went "oh, look, Kate's wearing a polka-dotted dress to bring her son home, and Diana did too, what a sweet coincidence". Certainly, the dresses bear no other similarities (and thank goodness for that - '80's maternity fashions were horrendous!)
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It's laughable. Last night, CNN actually showed side by sides of Catherine and Di both wearing a bold pink, long dress, but in styles 2.5 decades apart. Well, duh. If you have to wear enough long dresses in various seasons of the year, sooner or later you will probably wear bold pink. It's silly. We need to quit encouraging it.
I think polka dots are fun and photograph well. Big deal.
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07-24-2013, 12:53 PM
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It's laughable. Last night, CNN actually showed side by sides of Catherine and Di both wearing a bold pink, long dress, but in styles 2.5 decades apart. Well, duh. If you have to wear enough long dresses in various seasons of the year, sooner or later you will probably wear bold pink. It's silly. We need to quit encouraging it.
I think polka dots are fun and photograph well. Big deal.
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Yes, I saw that on CNN last - quite funny, as the dresses were very different, just the same color. Silly indeed.
Personally, I definitely think there are times when the comparisons were ridiculous and overdone, but there are other times when they're harmless and I think people overreact a bit (but I realize Diana rouses strong emotions one way or the other in a lot of people).
I will say, CNN was also airing side-by-side video of Charles and William comparing how each of them dressed/behaved when departing the hospital with their sons (much focus on William not being a suit, and being more relaxed, etc.) A new baby will inevitably bring about comparisons with previous generations.
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07-24-2013, 02:41 PM
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One rarely sees tight jeans just 24 hours after giving birth. The uterus still weighs about five pounds and is a big muscle at that point. Kate looks fabulous and indeed, should show the world what a new mom looks like. I loved the mod to Diana, with the polka dots. Kate is bringing things together for the family and it's so clear that they really adore each other.
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Princess Marie of Denmark left the hospital with baby Athena wearing very snug jeans. It made the front page of the Daily Mail and was the talk of the message boards. I have to admit she looked amazing.
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07-24-2013, 02:50 PM
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Pretty summery I just love that colour blue it is really flattering on anyone ... and re her fundus it will drop 3 days max and all will be well but yes it is what it is ... but the dress is stunning.
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07-24-2013, 02:55 PM
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I have a question about the term 'bespoke' being used in regards to the dress. One of the media said yesterday it was a Jenny Packham bespoke dress....I thought bespoke meant it was spoken for on behalf of X person...but then they said they were selling out on the shelf. So I must not understand the word bespoke?
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07-24-2013, 03:02 PM
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I have a question about the term 'bespoke' being used in regards to the dress. One of the media said yesterday it was a Jenny Packham bespoke dress....I thought bespoke meant it was spoken for on behalf of X person...but then they said they were selling out on the shelf. So I must not understand the word bespoke?
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Bespoke is a British term meaning custom made/made to specifications of the customer/Haute Couture
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07-24-2013, 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Pranter
I have a question about the term 'bespoke' being used in regards to the dress. One of the media said yesterday it was a Jenny Packham bespoke dress....I thought bespoke meant it was spoken for on behalf of X person...but then they said they were selling out on the shelf. So I must not understand the word bespoke?
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It can mean a couple of things.
1. The "bespoke" label was wrong in the news.
2. The dress Catherine wore was based on the shelf dress, but made specially for her. This happens often when a waist is raised or lowered, long is made short or vice versa, sleeves are changed, etc.
3. The fabric is chosen form the line and a bespoke dress is made from it.
4. The dress style is chosen from the line and a the fabric is the bespoke part.
Hope that helps.
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07-24-2013, 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Rocketmom
I'm not trying to offend anyone but I'm beginning to think that comparing everything Kate wears or does to what Diana wore or did it starting to become a bit obsessive.. We know that giving Kate his mother's engagement ring was to honor his mother but IMO the dress she wore out of the hospital looked nothing like the dress Diana wore. Kate's is sleeveless, had a belt, is blue with a rounded neckline. Diana's had sleeves, no belt, in green with a deep v neckline with white collar. Kate's dress style was very similar to others she wore during the pregnancy. Are we going to get this type of comparison every time she wears a dress the same color as one Diana once wore? It just seems like everyone is trying to make Kate into Diana.
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Completely agree. It gets ridiculous.
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07-24-2013, 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Pranter
I have a question about the term 'bespoke' being used in regards to the dress. One of the media said yesterday it was a Jenny Packham bespoke dress....I thought bespoke meant it was spoken for on behalf of X person...but then they said they were selling out on the shelf. So I must not understand the word bespoke?
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It might also be bespoke because Jenny Packham does not (currently) have a maternity line so bespoke could indicate the adjustment of a standard dress.
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07-24-2013, 04:07 PM
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Ah I get it now thanks!
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07-24-2013, 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by AdmirerUS
It can mean a couple of things.
1. The "bespoke" label was wrong in the news.
2. The dress Catherine wore was based on the shelf dress, but made specially for her. This happens often when a waist is raised or lowered, long is made short or vice versa, sleeves are changed, etc.
3. The fabric is chosen form the line and a bespoke dress is made from it.
4. The dress style is chosen from the line and a the fabric is the bespoke part.
Hope that helps.
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Thank you! I have been wondering about that word for quite some time.
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07-24-2013, 05:21 PM
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It might also be bespoke because Jenny Packham does not (currently) have a maternity line so bespoke could indicate the adjustment of a standard dress.
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It looks as if this could be the same pattern of dress that Jenny Packham created for her for the Coronation celebration service.
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07-24-2013, 05:49 PM
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No, I don't think it's bad taste to discuss the truth of her figure. It is what it is.
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That's an interesting statement. How come then it was always in a bad taste to discuss the truth of Charlene's figure (i.e. broad shoulders - after all, as you said, it is what it is)? Any time anyone would mention it, it was always "in a bad taste". Different standards for different Princesses?
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