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Old 12-25-2015, 02:04 PM
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I love the bright red coat. It is so festive. The Queen looks like she is really enjoying her day.
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Old 12-25-2015, 02:32 PM
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Very lovely look for Her Majesty. The color of the coat is festive and is a great choice for Christmas Day. I love the fur accents on the sleeves and collar.


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The Queen along with other senior members of the Royal Family have a collection of see through umbrellas with colour accents. They are made by a British firm starting with T, I believe it is Tallon.
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Old 12-25-2015, 03:10 PM
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December 25, 2015 - The Queen this morning in a red outfit with a fur collar.

Great color and a lovely outfit.

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Love the color. Dislike the fur. It looks like roadkill, and in my opinion almost ruins a lovely outfit. In my opinion- totally not necessary.
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Old 12-25-2015, 09:19 PM
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Actually, I was thrilled to see HM wear one of her vintage fur coats to early service on Christmas day. It looked lovely and warm and the speed with which she exited her car and went into the church and then back out and into the car was more than a little hasty for her. She usually stops for the public but even at the later service, while her red ensemble was gorgeous, she still looked cold . . . and in a hurry.
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Old 12-25-2015, 10:16 PM
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Love the color. Dislike the fur. It looks like roadkill, and in my opinion almost ruins a lovely outfit. In my opinion- totally not necessary.
I think she was wearing dead chinchillas. In an earlier post on another thread I said I was prepared to cut her some slack for wearing dead animals as long as they were farmed, but then I saw some photos like this one: http://investigations.peta.org/chinc...illa-cages.jpg and read this Chinchilla Fur - Animal Ethics RI and I've shrugged off the Christmas spirit-induced warm feelings of understanding and charity towards her Majesty regarding this issue.

Breeding and keeping those beautiful little animals in those conditions for the purpose of killing them and selling the fur to decorate wealthy people's coats is despicable, in my opinion, and amounts to animal cruelty, and it is wrong for a woman in such a position of power and esteem to support that industry and promote their product. At least the animals killed for the ivory that Prince William so despises were living a normal, free, life before being killed. I wonder what Prince William thinks about his granny wearing that coat?
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Old 12-25-2015, 10:40 PM
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Actually, I was thrilled to see HM wear one of her vintage fur coats to early service on Christmas day. It looked lovely and warm and the speed with which she exited her car and went into the church and then back out and into the car was more than a little hasty for her. She usually stops for the public but even at the later service, while her red ensemble was gorgeous, she still looked cold . . . and in a hurry.
Me too...I think it looked very warm and classy. Also loved the red coat, just a fabulous cut and color.



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Old 12-26-2015, 12:00 AM
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I love this outfit on the Queen.

This is my favorite outfit that I have seen her wear in the past decade. I even like her hat. Real or fake fur I like the outfit. The outfit looked even better in video. (Maybe that is why I loved this outfit.)
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Old 12-26-2015, 12:28 AM
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The Queen's red fur outfit was beautiful and festive. I also liked that she wore her brown fur coat to early church service. I think fur should be worn.
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I think she was wearing dead chinchillas. In an earlier post on another thread I said I was prepared to cut her some slack for wearing dead animals as long as they were farmed, but then I saw some photos like this one: http://investigations.peta.org/chinc...illa-cages.jpg and read this Chinchilla Fur - Animal Ethics RI and I've shrugged off the Christmas spirit-induced warm feelings of understanding and charity towards her Majesty regarding this issue.

Breeding and keeping those beautiful little animals in those conditions for the purpose of killing them and selling the fur to decorate wealthy people's coats is despicable, in my opinion, and amounts to animal cruelty, and it is wrong for a woman in such a position of power and esteem to support that industry and promote their product. At least the animals killed for the ivory that Prince William so despises were living a normal, free, life before being killed. I wonder what Prince William thinks about his granny wearing that coat?
I read that the fur on the Queen's red outfit was faux fur
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I read that the fur on the Queen's red outfit was faux fur
I hope you're right, but I read one comment that it was a vintage coat, which implies it was made before there was a protest movement against fur. I don't understand the concept of faux fur. If you don't think you should be wearing real fur - which does have some very real advantages in very cold climates - why on earth wear some synthetic concoction that is supposed to look like real fur and rarely does? Why not just wear something like cashmere, which is super-soft, warm as toast, and a resource that does not require the donating animal to be killed?
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Old 12-26-2015, 08:30 AM
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I hope you're right, but I read one comment that it was a vintage coat, which implies it was made before there ws a pr rotest movement against fur. I don't understand the concept of faux r. If you don't think you should be wearing real fur - which does have some very real advantages in very cold climates - why on earth wear some synthetic concoction that is supposed to look like real fur and rarely does? Why not just wear something like cashmere, which is super-soft, warm as toast, and a resource that does not require the donating animal to be killed?
Is the argument against wearing real fur rather duplicitous? If one can kill an animal to eat it, one can just as well kill it to keep warm.
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HM doesn't live in a cave or a tent. A person who leads the sort of life that she does can keep warm without wearing animal fur. There's a big difference between keeping and killing animals for food and breeding and killing them for the sake of nothing more than human vanity.
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Is the argument against wearing real fur rather duplicitous? If one can kill an animal to eat it, one can just as well kill it to keep warm.

That's been my thought as well. Many people wear clothing made out of leather etc.

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Yes but the animals the leather comes from is being eaten. BTW one of the largest suppliers of leather is India and they don't kill the cows, they make the leather from the cows after they have died.

Have you heard of people eating chinchilla meat? Or mink meat? Or even fox meat? Fox perhaps but that is pretty rare.

Its one thing to hunt an animal and use the hide as well as the meat. Its another to kill them simply for a fashion statement.
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I think she wore a real fur coat she has owned since at least the early 1960s to the early morning service and then for the later, more public, service wore a new red outfit and hat which was trimmed which faux fur according to some reports.
Personally I don't see the issue with wearing a fur coat if you already own it, bearing in mind fur wasn't such an issue back in the 60s, it might as well be used to keep warm rather than gather moth balls in a wardrobe IMO.
If the fur on her new outfit is faux I suspect it shows that the Queen is mindful of current feeling towards fur but, ever practical, doesn't see this as a reason not to wear an already existing fur coat to what is traditionally a private event (the early morning church service never traditionally being photographed until very recently).
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The mink coat was from 1961 it looked lovely, I have no idea if the fur on the red was real or not. It was an attractive outfit.
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Old 12-26-2015, 05:14 PM
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I hope you're right, but I read one comment that it was a vintage coat, which implies it was made before there was a protest movement against fur. I don't understand the concept of faux fur. If you don't think you should be wearing real fur - which does have some very real advantages in very cold climates - why on earth wear some synthetic concoction that is supposed to look like real fur and rarely does? Why not just wear something like cashmere, which is super-soft, warm as toast, and a resource that does not require the donating animal to be killed?
I have to agree. I think a lot of confusion this year has been because the media were too slack to get up that early so only a few photos covered the early church service which surprisingly, almost the entire house party attended.
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Is the argument against wearing real fur rather duplicitous? If one can kill an animal to eat it, one can just as well kill it to keep warm.
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HM doesn't live in a cave or a tent. A person who leads the sort of life that she does can keep warm without wearing animal fur. There's a big difference between keeping and killing animals for food and breeding and killing them for the sake of nothing more than human vanity.
But I suspect the argument for vegetarianism sounds very similar. Man can live on vegetables and dairy, what is the need to kill animals to eat?
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We are an omniverous species. We are designed to eat flesh as well as nuts and fruit.
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