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Old 04-18-2018, 10:16 PM
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Love the dress, the bag, and the shoes. I would happily wear any of them, but I’m too short for the dress, and too clumsy for the stilettos. The purse would be perfect for me, though.
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Old 04-18-2018, 10:25 PM
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Ahem. I think she will make her own clothing budget. I think she has been doing that for YEARS.
Of course she's been buying her own clothes-she was earning money. Now she is not earning a salary (I'm sure she has savings and will get residuals but still) however she is working for Great Britain and Charles will allocate funds for her working clothes.
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Old 04-18-2018, 10:27 PM
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I like the way Meghan's clothes don't scream 'Meghan here, look at me' which is a really good thing because she is with Harry and I think with a few words of advice as to dress code for the day, she dressed for him.
Exactly so! Meghan is definitely not using these outings as red carpet events from what I see. She dresses decently (clean) but not 'perfectly'. She doesn't (or hasn't yet) set the bar impossibly high for herself. I think that may be part of her 'style' (for now anyway). We may never see Meghan with every hair in place. She is blending in with the people that she meets yet maintaining her American/Californian sensibilities, which to me is a good thing. (We may see 'every hair in place' at blingy events and we can assume she will be able to 'clean up nicely' for those without too much coaching).

I don't really see why some see Meghan as needing fashion advice. She looks to be doing just fine on her own (if she is on her own).

NOTE: I think people assume more fashion input for royals than is really there, except for those who have clothes actually made for them, like the Queen (or someone like Camilla new to the game). It's not rocket science. It's personal taste.
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Old 04-19-2018, 08:37 AM
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I agree with those who believe that every item is fine but the sum of its parts just doesn't add up. In some ways, I feel that she's consciously trying not to be too fashionable so that clothes don't speak for her, and that could be a good thing, but somehow the result is that she looks unkempt and like she's not putting enough of an effort.
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Old 04-19-2018, 09:01 AM
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Interesting...feedback on twitter, even her big supporters are probably the most upset I've seen them over yesterday's outfit (Eugenie's getting it too) ...Even podsavethequeen program carefully (mildly) criticized some parts of her outfit.


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Old 04-19-2018, 09:22 AM
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For all her style experience and tips in the past I begin to think she really didn't do most of that herself but was styled mostly by the show's people.

I'm not sure she really understands how to style a wardrobe (as mentioned several times..hard time putting the good pieces together) which is why I am hoping after the wedding she sits down and gets serious about a wardrobe (with a new budget) and professional help or input from a person in country.


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Of course they styled her character on the show. Her personal style was always more relaxed if you look at her IG. She's talked about in the past that Rachel has some similarities to her personal style, but also have differences. For example, she doesn't like prints, so Rachel doesn't wear a lot of prints either. However, she'd never wear Rachel's pencil skirts.
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Old 04-19-2018, 10:17 AM
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Interesting...feedback on twitter, even her big supporters are probably the most upset I've seen them over yesterday's outfit (Eugenie's getting it too) ...Even podsavethequeen program carefully (mildly) criticized some parts of her outfit.
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Yes definitely mixed reviews. The Pod Save the Queen critique was largely due to how Meghan wore/didn't wear the jacket and whether the dress was too informal. I wasn't a fan of the over the shoulder look for this event either but I also recognize that it's a Meghan style signature. Though it may not be what people are used to seeing other royals do, it's something that Meghan has done for a long time. The notion that she recently picked it up from Kim Kardashian or Melania Trump was silly and an indication that the royal reporters are still learning Meghan's style. They did confirm how unexpectedly hot it was in London yesterday which probably explains why she quickly took the jacket off.

Surprised we haven't seen pictures from the women's empowerment reception. Thought it was today?
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Old 04-19-2018, 10:51 AM
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Yes definitely mixed reviews. The Pod Save the Queen critique was largely due to how Meghan wore/didn't wear the jacket and whether the dress was too informal. I wasn't a fan of the over the shoulder look for this event either but I also recognize that it's a Meghan style signature. Though it may not be what people are used to seeing other royals do, it's something that Meghan has done for a long time. The notion that she recently picked it up from Kim Kardashian or Melania Trump was silly and an indication that the royal reporters are still learning Meghan's style. They did confirm how unexpectedly hot it was in London yesterday which probably explains why she quickly took the jacket off.

Surprised we haven't seen pictures from the women's empowerment reception. Thought it was today?

I thought it interesting they brought up the hosiery issue (Queen prefers them to wear hose not bare legs) etc. Interesting discussion.

I figure she learned yesterday that draped on the shoulder jacket look won't work on engagements.


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Old 04-19-2018, 11:17 AM
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I thought it interesting they brought up the hosiery issue (Queen prefers them to wear hose not bare legs) etc. Interesting discussion.


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Does the Queen prefer them to wear it or is it just assumed. I mean, she did put it on for more formal occasion, but I have to wonder if the Queen cares about the less formal situations.
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Old 04-19-2018, 11:33 AM
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I don't really see why some see Meghan as needing fashion advice...
That's the thing that is annoying here on this board. No one here needs to "see" why anyone here likes or dislikes, or thinks Meghan needs, or Meghan doesn't need anything.

Fashion is entirely subjective and some will like her style and some won't. Some will think she needs professional advice and some won't. But the constant harping here and the constant "I don't get why..." or "People need to understand..." or whatever else, is extremely annoying and off putting. People will like or dislike her clothes. It doesn't have to be for supposed ignorance or for hidden motives. It can simply be a matter of taste. Period. The end.

I think she needed to wear the jacket like it's supposed to be worn, with her arms in the sleeves, and then, in my opinion she would have looked 100% better.

It's not a personal insult to Meghan. I like her a lot. I can still think she doesn't dress that great some of the time.
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Old 04-19-2018, 11:38 AM
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Does the Queen prefer them to wear it or is it just assumed. I mean, she did put it on for more formal occasion, but I have to wonder if the Queen cares about the less formal situations.
I do think things have filtered out over the years about the Queen's preferences when the BRF ladies are on the job.



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Old 04-19-2018, 12:03 PM
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Overall, I think most of Meghan's fashion choices have been.....fine. There might be quibbles about fit, or pant hems dragging, or whatever, but for the most part, personal taste to one side, she's been dressed appropriately, and has looked good and in keeping with her chosen style aesthetic. This appearance just seems really off. It's like it didn't click with her that during this engagement she was representing not just her own interests, not just the interests of the royal family, but was, in a limited way, representing Britain, and that she was going to be meeting young people who were also representing their own countries and for whom this event was a very big deal. Choosing to wear a strappy dress when everyone else seemed to be wearing business or business casual just strikes me as a bit tone deaf.

I'm sure she'll figure it out, eventually, there's always a learning curve to this stuff, but this was, for me, a big misstep on her part, and shows she may not quite "get" the role that she's taken on. Or maybe not, time will tell.
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Old 04-19-2018, 12:06 PM
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her fashion choices, as exemplified by this last one, are far from conventional and from what is expected of a princess. the last look was definitely more on the celebrity front rather than on the royal front - with the blazer over the shoulders and with her bag on the shoulder. the total opposite to kate, who fits more with the conventional british princessy look. however, it is refreshing to see that she is sticking to her fashion preferences and not transforming in a copycat of kate just because she joined the RF. i have to say, i wouldn't mind her slowly coming to a more conventional style without losing some of her 'edginess'. i also like that she is uncovering less known brands that may need support.
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Old 04-19-2018, 12:14 PM
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Overall, I think most of Meghan's fashion choices have been.....fine. There might be quibbles about fit, or pant hems dragging, or whatever, but for the most part, personal taste to one side, she's been dressed appropriately, and has looked good and in keeping with her chosen style aesthetic. This appearance just seems really off. It's like it didn't click with her that during this engagement she was representing not just her own interests, not just the interests of the royal family, but was, in a limited way, representing Britain, and that she was going to be meeting young people who were also representing their own countries and for whom this event was a very big deal. Choosing to wear a strappy dress when everyone else seemed to be wearing business or business casual just strikes me as a bit tone deaf.

I'm sure she'll figure it out, eventually, there's always a learning curve to this stuff, but this was, for me, a big misstep on her part, and shows she may not quite "get" the role that she's taken on. Or maybe not, time will tell.
I agree with all of this, esp about giving her time to grasp that she is representing (in a big way TBH) Britain and/or the Commonwealth. In many ways expectations are way too high - not in terms that she wont achieve them, but in the time scale she is being given by so many "fans"

She'll get there.
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Surprised we haven't seen pictures from the women's empowerment reception. Thought it was today?
The irony given what is done here regarding just fashion choices of one person.
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Not really irony....you don't have to like everything women wear in order to empower them.


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Old 04-19-2018, 12:39 PM
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I agree with all of this, esp about giving her time to grasp that she is representing (in a big way TBH) Britain and/or the Commonwealth. In many ways expectations are way too high - not in terms that she wont achieve them, but in the time scale she is being given by so many "fans"

She'll get there.
See, my thing about this is people sometimes conflates the clothes with the role. I think it terms of the role, she's exceeded expectations in terms of how she has conducted herself, whether it be when she meets people or how knowledgeable she is about certain issues. In terms of clothes, I never expected her to be like Kate, or to be like Rachel for that matter, I understood that she was different so to speak than a lot of the women that has married into the BRF. I think she has been given a lot of flack and called for being inappropriate on the clothing front when it hasn't been. In terms of this event, was she more summery than others? Sure. But was she less dressy than the youth leaders that participated in the forum? No. Like I said, if you look closely at what they were wearing, they had a wide range or formal vs. informal. It's those that were working the event that were very dressed up.

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Not really irony....you don't have to like everything women wear in order to empower them.


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You don't have to like it, but it does seem fashion takes a lot more attention than the actually substance of the job for women compared to men. Quite frankly, I've seen people here saying the job seems to be a lot harder than she thought or that they don't see the advantage of her past helping her adapt to the job like some of us have suggested simply because they haven't agreed with her fashion styles.
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Old 04-19-2018, 12:47 PM
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You don't have to like it, but it does seem fashion takes a lot more attention than the actually substance of the job for women compared to men. Quite frankly, I've seen people here saying the job seems to be a lot harder than she thought or that they don't see the advantage of her past helping her adapt to the job like some of us have suggested simply because they haven't agreed with her fashion styles.
Good points. It's interesting. Often based on one event where maybe her pant length was problematic (maybe).
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if you look closely at what they were wearing, they had a wide range or formal vs. informal. It's those that were working the event that were very dressed up.
Inevitably there will be such a range amongst the attendees, but since it was clearly of great importance to those that 'went to the trouble' of organising it, this important attendee might have tried and 'look the part'.. she didn't, she looked unco-ordinated and hence something of a 'let-down'.
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Or some people just don't like the "style" she has been showing , but like her, and think she's competent in her new role.
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