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04-07-2012, 07:47 PM
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Does Joachim now live in Fred's old apartment? I heard that Fred's old apartment was quite big while Joachim's old apartment (or current apartment if he has not moved) was quite small. It would seem obvious to me for Joachim to move into his brothers old apartment now Fred has a whole Palace for his family!
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04-16-2012, 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by tommy100
Does Joachim now live in Fred's old apartment? I heard that Fred's old apartment was quite big while Joachim's old apartment (or current apartment if he has not moved) was quite small. It would seem obvious to me for Joachim to move into his brothers old apartment now Fred has a whole Palace for his family!
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Wonder if tnow that Joachim has 4-children I would think he would need a larger apartmentheir are any pictures of Joachim's apartment.........
Is he still in the same small apartment, or did he move into Fred's old apartment...............
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05-01-2012, 07:37 AM
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Wonder if tnow that Joachim has 4-children I would think he would need a larger apartmentheir are any pictures of Joachim's apartment.........
Is he still in the same small apartment, or did he move into Fred's old apartment...............
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Hi LyndaW!  and Tommy100 too!
Prince Joachim is probably living in Fred's old apartment; Fred used to live in this particular mansion (Christian VIII), I just won't bet on it because there's been a royal reshuffle since the crown princely couple moved into their redecorated mansion! Princess Benedikte and ex-queen Anne-Marie used to have their apartments there, but they were 'evicted' and moved to the same mansion as Prince Joachim. Maybe one room was added to the one tenant and taken away from the other... it's difficult to say without knowing the plan of the interior!
We never get to see any pictures from their private Amalienborg apartments, well, at least I don't remember seeing any. As for the four kids: In Copenhagen the two elder kids are normally staying with their mother and stepfather, so I don't think space is an issue in this respect.
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10-08-2015, 04:19 AM
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I know Amelianborg has it's geographical facilities, but if Fred and Mary, or Joachim and his family wished move to another palace nearby copenhagen, could they?
And do the family has any private palace in Denmark?
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10-08-2015, 12:22 PM
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I know Amelianborg has it's geographical facilities, but if Fred and Mary, or Joachim and his family wished move to another palace nearby copenhagen, could they?
And do the family has any private palace in Denmark?
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Yes, just look at where Prince Joachim and Princess Marie lives now
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10-08-2015, 12:54 PM
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Yes, just look at where Prince Joachim and Princess Marie lives now 
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That is a private house, not a private palace, isn't it? ( Picture)
Prince Joachim has -sadly- sold Shackenborg ( Picture)
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10-08-2015, 01:05 PM
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That is a private house, not a private palace, isn't it? ( Picture)
Prince Joachim has -sadly- sold Shackenborg ( Picture)

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I wouldn´t call it a house, a manor is perhaps more suitable
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10-08-2015, 01:21 PM
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The new house looks more a villa to me ( = a luxe detached house) than a manor. Shackenborg, which was sold, really looks like a manor indeed.
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10-08-2015, 01:33 PM
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From what I can see the new house is something even the upper middle class could afford and live in; Schackenburg is grander; but in real estate it's always location, location, location. A house in Copenhagen will cost far more than a house in southern Jutland.
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10-08-2015, 02:46 PM
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 I don't think you can call their house an upper middle class home by any Danish standard.
But you are certainly right in regards to location. As a thumb-rule you can get 3-5 times as much house in the area of Southern Jutland where Schackenborg is located, for the same amount a house north of Copenhagen costs.
An upper middle class house in or near a city in DK would cost some 5-8 million DKK. Joachim paid more than 30 million DKK.
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10-08-2015, 04:29 PM
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Muhler-Now that airspace above some of the British royal residences has been restricted, is there a similar rule in place for the Danish palaces?
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10-08-2015, 04:37 PM
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For drones, yes.
I haven't heard about any restrictions for planes and helicopters, except they can't go under a certain height, but that rule has been around for years.
Drones can't fly within 150 meters of estates used by the DRF, and as Amalienborg is located in the middle of Copenhagen, drones can't fly there, period. - Unless we are talking about dispensation. I.e. drones used by the firebrigade, police, military or for special purposes for which there is a dispensation from flight to flight.
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10-08-2015, 06:01 PM
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Tak! You are a treasure of information.
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I'd say that Joachim and Marie's new residence is a small mansion. IMO it's too large to class as a house though too small to class as a mansion. I also don't think it's a manor because when I hear the word "manor" I think of places like Knole in Kent (England).
It's very charming though!
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10-08-2015, 11:41 PM
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 I don't think you can call their house an upper middle class home by any Danish standard.
But you are certainly right in regards to location. As a thumb-rule you can get 3-5 times as much house in the area of Southern Jutland where Schackenborg is located, for the same amount a house north of Copenhagen costs.
An upper middle class house in or near a city in DK would cost some 5-8 million DKK. Joachim paid more than 30 million DKK.
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Wow!! I am unused to European size homes (or Northeastern U.S. size homes) these days!
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10-09-2015, 01:08 AM
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Wow!! I am unused to European size homes (or Northeastern U.S. size homes) these days!
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It is a 6,500 square foot house. Large no matter where you live.
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10-09-2015, 02:26 AM
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Yes, just look at where Prince Joachim and Princess Marie lives now 
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It's a beautiful house, but it dont look like a manor, palace or castle, just a mansion.
Anyway, I asked it because somewhere was stated that Charles would like to move to windsor castle when he became king, but the British were outraged, because Buckingan is the official home of the head of state.
I particularly found it desnecessary, and would like to know if something similar happen to danish royal family, if Amelienborg hold similar status. Because in Denmark there are tons other really beautiful castles and palaces.
t's really good to know the danishs are more respectful and empathetic to their royal family, but if they want, could they have apartaments in Christiansborg, for example?
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10-09-2015, 03:37 AM
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The Queen spends more time at Windsor Castle than at Buckingham Palace, so what Charles wants is nothing new actually...
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10-09-2015, 05:24 AM
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It's a beautiful house, but it dont look like a manor, palace or castle, just a mansion.
Anyway, I asked it because somewhere was stated that Charles would like to move to windsor castle when he became king, but the British were outraged, because Buckingan is the official home of the head of state.
I particularly found it desnecessary, and would like to know if something similar happen to danish royal family, if Amelienborg hold similar status. Because in Denmark there are tons other really beautiful castles and palaces.
t's really good to know the danishs are more respectful and empathetic to their royal family, but if they want, could they have apartaments in Christiansborg, for example?
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You mean preferring to live somewhere else than at Amalienborg? That would be seen by the public as very odd.
They could always go to Fredensborg for the weekends anyway.
It would also be impractical as so much of the DRF administration and services are located in the Amalienborg complex.
One big advantage Amalienbor has is that it consists of four mansions, so once every one or two generations one mansions can be thoroughly renovated, while the rest works as usual. And should the terrible thing happen that one mansion burn to the ground, the official residence can after a short renovation be moved to one of the other mansions, while the burned down mansion is rebuild.
It would be impractical to move to Christiansborg, for several reasons, the most important being that there simply isn't room for suitable apartments.
The Parliament, the politicians and the administration takes up all available space as it is.
However, should the DRF for whatever reason relocate to another palace in Copenhagen there are a few alternatives. Frederiksberg Slot is the first that springs to mind. Or perhaps other buildings could be converted to a residence?
But I think I'll leave it to those members who live in or near Copenhagen to answer the question of alternative residences.
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It is a 6,500 square foot house. Large no matter where you live.
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I think I've lived in the South too long.. you can get 6,500 sq ft for about 1-1.5m U.S. dollars in the Atlanta suburbs - and there's many of them in the suburbs. In Manhattan that's an entire apartment building (that would go for far more)...location, location, location!
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