The Royal Yacht Dannebrog - Page 2

eya · #21 09-10-2019, 04:09 AM

The Dannebrog prepares to say goodbye for this year!

https://www.instagram.com/p/B2OSazRAs98/

Muhler · #22 09-10-2019, 04:16 AM

Aah, well-polished, neat, clean, shining. Nice!

You'd be forgiven for thinking it's the army who is maintaining the ship...

Durham · #23 05-24-2020, 02:08 PM

I have watched this documentary on the Dannebrog. Stunning ship, gorgeous in fact. Looks a lots like the Nahlin.

Obviously I didn't know what was being said but I still enjoyed watching.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47SBB3AOKKs

What plans if any are there for the future? Will it be refitted again when it needs it or will a brand new yacht be bought? I hope there are no plans to do away with the Danish royal yacht.

Muhler · #24 05-24-2020, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Durham

I have watched this documentary on the Dannebrog. Stunning ship, gorgeous in fact. Looks a lots like the Nahlin.

Obviously I didn't know what was being said but I still enjoyed watching.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47SBB3AOKKs

What plans if any are there for the future? Will it be refitted again when it needs it or will a brand new yacht be bought? I hope there are no plans to do away with the Danish royal yacht.

She is a beauty.

It was made by the same team who followed the DRF behind the scenes for a year some 12-14 years ago and in the same way. I.e. Quietly letting people enjoying the scenery and letting those in the know, including QMII, quietly talk about their jobs and why things are done the way it's done.

I don't think there are plans for the ship. She had a major overhaul back around 1980, so I guess another overhaul may be needed at some point within the next 20 years or so. New engines will probably be needed.
But she is still in very fine condition. She is very stylish and being almost 100 years old, she is sailing history and a major crowd-pleaser wherever she sails.
She is also adequate as a royal residence. Not too big and not too small.

She also serves a purpose beyond being a floating residence, in the sense that some 40-50 conscripts get their seamanship training aboard her every year. In fact there is a two year waiting list for serving aboard Dannebrog.

There is no serious public call for her to be replaced with anything more modern and certainly not for scrapping her!
Considering that DK is the fifth largest maritime merchant nation in the world, she is a very fitting representative for DK.

She also makes things simpler when the DRF are on summer tours. No need to book and secure hotels or manors or fly back and forth. The DRF members can go straight to bed in their own cabins, once the guests leave in the evening.

Blog Real · #25 05-24-2020, 03:19 PM

The former Dannebrog yacht, which was built in 1879 and decommissioned in 1931.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMY_Dannebrog_(1879)

Muhler · #26 05-24-2020, 03:52 PM

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F...hip,_1880).TIF

The first royal yacht, Dannebrog, was also a very much a navy ship.
Notice the tight rigging with the masts leaning back in the cruiser style.
And the long low narrow hull.
The bridge is also midship, as was standard for warships in the mid to late 1800s. Hence the term "bridge", because that's what it was. Replacing the previous term "quarterdeck."
Very much in line with the modern steel warships that were replacing the hybrid steel-wooden ships of the line around the time she was build.

In fact the first electricity plant in DK was a warship.

This first Dannebrog was, I understand, slow. Hardly suited for oceanic voyages, but more for sailing in calmer seas and along coasts. It was also dirty, being coal-fueled and she rolled a lot.
By 1930 she was hopelessly old-fashioned and was replaced by the much more elegant and more feminine present-day Dannebrog. A diesel-driven steam-ship and much better suited for oceanic voyages.
A pity though, they didn't preserve her. As an engineering historical ship she was interesting.

But there was actually a ship number one before the first Dannebrog. And she is preserved to this day.
The frigate Jylland (Jutland).
Here she is: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/35/7e...0205f010be.jpg
And at sea: https://maritimevenner.com/wp-conten...nderEnByge.jpg
Termed a frigate, she was really a hybrid heavy cruiser and she saw action during both Schlesvigan Wars.
There is cabin reserved for the king aboard, complete with a private head (privy) for the king. And she was used to ferry the king around the country, but she was hardly a yacht.

Before that the king usually raised his standard aboard the largest ship of the line available and commandeered the admirals cabin.

Durham · #27 05-24-2020, 04:20 PM

Thank you for all that interesting detail!

I'm pleased that there are no plans to replace or even worse scrap her. As you say it's fitting that she represents the nation with the world's fifth largest merchant fleet. I have royal yacht envy.

What happened here was so short sighted & I'm glad that Denmark's not made the same mistake.

Muhler · #28 05-24-2020, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Durham

Thank you for all that interesting detail!

I'm pleased that there are no plans to replace or even worse scrap her. As you say it's fitting that she represents the nation with the world's fifth largest merchant fleet. I have royal yacht envy.

What happened here was so short sighted & I'm glad that Denmark's not made the same mistake.

Agree.
I had hoped you would build a new royal yacht - now that you have an aircraft carrier and as a national symbol after Brexit. But I guess there is little hope of that now here after Corona.
And yet... perhaps as a way to stimulate British ship-building?

Durham · #29 05-24-2020, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Muhler

Agree.
I had hoped you would build a new royal yacht - now that you have an aircraft carrier and as a national symbol after Brexit. But I guess there is little hope of that now here after Corona.
And yet... perhaps as a way to stimulate British ship-building?

Maybe. Unlikely I think.

One of the two carriers is called Queen Elizabeth so that sort of counts.

Bit big for a yacht though.

Did you have a look at the Nahlin? It looks like Dannebrog's twin.

Muhler · #30 05-24-2020, 04:42 PM

I have now.

They are certainly related!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nahlin_(yacht)
https://superyachts.agent4stars.com/...AHLINyacht.jpg

Nahlin is longer though and probably not designed for arctic sailing.

Couldn't the BRF charter her? Or another yacht like her?

(What's the matter with the Wikipedia links tonight?!?)

Durham · #31 05-24-2020, 04:47 PM

Leander has been chartered in the past. It's for sale actually & very nice but not as lovely as the Dannebrog.

Muhler · #32 05-24-2020, 05:01 PM

This one?
https://www.charterworld.com/images/...5D-1971-54.jpg

Very pretty. It is no doubt very comfortable, but at 75 meters a little smallish for a BRF yacht IMO. 90 meters like Nahlin would be better.

Durham · #33 05-24-2020, 05:35 PM

Yes that's the one.

Blog Real · #34 08-12-2020, 03:22 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJYk8oz4TUs

Kataryn · #35 01-20-2021, 11:24 PM

Just watched the Danish movie "Druk" (English title is Another Round") in the original version with English subtitles. The movie is Denmark's contender for the Oscar as best foreign movie, won numerous awards already (including 4 awards at the European movie awards) and was really fun, even though they didn't omit the dark sides of trying to live more intensively through drinking alcohol. Good movie!

But back to the Dannebrog! The yacht was in the movie as well. By chance because she sailed into Copenhagen harbour when they shot the last scene of the movie and then moored there. So when Mads Mikkelsen looks out over the water, you can see her prominently displayed there. A fitting scene IMHO for a "Ridder" of the order of the Dannebrog!

Muhler · #36 07-23-2021, 10:21 AM

https://www.billedbladet.dk/kongelig...lie-i-havsnoed
https://www.tv2east.dk/odsherred/kon...il-undsaetning

QMII will board Dannebrog tomorrow in Copenhagen. (And I guess sail for Aarhus and Marselisborg. She often sail to Aarhus.)
While testing her engines Wednesday Dannebrog assisted a family in distress.
First she encountered a red dinghy floating upside down. There were no one around, so the dinghy was hoisted aboard for further investigation. And while doing that the Navy Operational Command called in about a sailing boat in distress. It was dead calm and the engines didn't work, so the boat, containing a family couldn't steer. - There is still current though, so that makes it dangerous, because there are large international shipping lanes in that general area.
So Dannebrog set course for the boat and put one of her boats in the water. The team managed to get the engine running, and the happy family could steer their boat again.

As a navy ship Dannebrog is required to offer assistance to boats and ships in distress and it's a quite common task when the DRF are not aboard.
But it also happens when DRF members are aboard. Responding to emergencies takes precedence. So if a mayday is picked up, Dannebrog will sail to assistance if she is close enough, also if QMII is having an upcoming event. That'll have to wait.

Incidentally. Dannebrog was originally designed to double as a hospital ship. (Basically ferrying wounded from various parts of Denmark. There were hardly any bridges across the sounds back in 1934, so everyone had to sail.)
Today her NATO classification is as an auxiliary ship.

And as I have mentioned before, she is the first ship in the navy. So all other Danish navy ships are obliged to salute Dannebrog if they pass her. And that includes an honor detachment lining up on the deck taking off their covers and saluting Dannebrog.

Muhler · #37 07-26-2021, 03:03 AM

And it happened.

https://www.bt.dk/royale/kongeskibet...-kutter-fundet

While on her way yo Aalborg with QMII aboard, Dannebrog was alerted by a mayday call. A fishing boat with two aboard was sinking.
Navy Operational Command, alerted navy units in the area, a helicopter as well as civilian shipping in the area and that included Dannebrog which changed course significantly as you can tell from the plotting in the article.
The mayday came in at around 06.00. At 08.30 a rescuer was aboard the fishing boat, that was still afloat. The boat was towed into harbor for repair.

- I don't think Dannebrog was the first on the spot, otherwise we'd seen it in the article.

I guess they woke and informed her adjutant, but hardly QMII for what was a routine task.

Dannebrog is not a fast ship, about 25-30 km an hour, so I estimate she will be near Aalborg around 14.00.

Tarlita · #38 07-26-2021, 04:16 AM

Those new multi million dollar yachts are nice and modern, but they don't have The Romance the Dannebrog has.
That's the best descriptive word I can think of for her.

Muhler · #39 07-26-2021, 09:13 AM

Agree.

The difference as I see it between Dannebrog and a modern yacht, is that she is a ship:
https://karriere.forsvaret.dk/global...bib-072472.jpg

That is a vessel:
https://image.yachtcharterfleet.com/...ca-i-yacht.jpg

Izzie · #40 12-16-2021, 03:00 PM

M/S Maritime Museum: The royal ship Dannebrog is celebrated in new special exhibition

In 2022, the Royal Ship Dannebrog turns 90 years old. It marks the M/S Maritime Museum with a special exhibition about the floating castle. The exhibition will be inaugurated on 8 February 2022 and give the public an insight into life on board - from the everyday life of the crew to the royal family's private life at sea.

https://www.mynewsdesk.com/dk/have-a...illing-3151193

The article details some of what will be on display as well.