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Can you imagine how jubilant Mary was at Framlingham after so many perilous years knowing she had the backing of the country despite her clinging to the old faith and then heading off to London!
And many, most probably, of those flocking to Framlingham were not catholic. Unfortunately Mary subsequently confused their dynastic loyalty for a desire to restore the old faith.
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Old 05-17-2020, 06:32 PM
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He was well housed! He had more palaces than any king before or since. Of course court life was quite peripatetic. They had to move on every so often so the palace they had been in could have a deep clean, not to mention having used up all the resources in the locality.
All royal courts were on the move, for the King to visit different parts of the kingdom and alos for health and hygeien reasons.
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The Savoy Palace is London was by all accounts meant to be one of the grandest residence for its time.The home of John of Gaunt,Duke of Lancaster was sadly destroyed during the Peasants' Revolt of 1381.

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And many, most probably, of those flocking to Framlingham were not catholic. Unfortunately Mary subsequently confused their dynastic loyalty for a desire to restore the old faith.
This is it precisely - she thought that the people were longing for a return to Catholicism when in fact it was more of a combination of "legitimacy" in not having an unnecessary change of dynasty and the hatred and distrust of the Dudley/Northumberlands. Had "Bloody" Mary been a little more pragmatic about religion, as Mary Stuart was to be later, and had she married someone other than Philip of Spain history would probably be kinder to her.
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One of Mary's principal residences prior to her accession was the Palace of Beaulieu in Boreham, Essex.

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A clip about the visit of Victoria & Albert to the great pile at Stowe. Now a very special school indeed.

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Otley Hall in Suffolk which is reputed to contain linenfold paneling from Wolsey's closet at Hampton Court.

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Otley Hall in Suffolk which is reputed to contain linenfold paneling from Wolsey's closet at Hampton Court.

https://www.countrylife.co.uk/proper...-market-195330
What a stunning Tudor home!
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It certainly is. Sadly there's no detail about when & how the paneling from Hampton Court was sent to Otley. Maybe it was removed when Henry started to improve the palace after Wolsey's fall? It's about 80 miles straight distance.
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It certainly is. Sadly there's no detail about when & how the paneling from Hampton Court was sent to Otley. Maybe it was removed when Henry started to improve the palace after Wolsey's fall? It's about 80 miles straight distance.
Cardinal Wolsey spent lavishly on Hampton Court ,Anne despised him wouldn't surprise me if his paneling was removed it may have had his arms/monogram on it.
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Cardinal Wolsey spent lavishly on Hampton Court ,Anne despised him wouldn't surprise me if his paneling was removed it may have had his arms/monogram on it.
That makes sense. Presumably the occupants of Otley were at court in some capacity & able to buy it. Possibly even gifted to them.

Just found out - the occupants were the Gosnold family.

American posters might be interested to know that:

"Bartholomew Gosnold (1571-1607) voyaged to the New World, where in 1602 he discovered Cape Cod and Martha's Vineyard, which he named after his infant daughter. In 1607, 13 years before the Mayflower landed, he was the prime mover in the Virginia Company expedition that founded the Jamestown colony. This was the first permanent English-speaking settlement in America. It has been said that the two voyages were planned at the hearthside of Otley Hall."

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Hever Castle in Kent has an Irish connection,its last occupent was Anne's Irish grandmother Lady Margaret Butler who was the last of the Boleyns to reside there.

Lady Margaret is thought to have died in 1539 and shed have been in her mid 80's at that stage.
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Hever Castle in Kent has an Irish connection,its last occupent was Anne's Irish grandmother Lady Margaret Butler who was the last of the Boleyns to reside there.

Lady Margaret is thought to have died in 1539 and shed have been in her mid 80's at that stage.
https://www.hevercastle.co.uk/
Yes I knew Ann was part Irish. Was it Ormond Castle where her grandmother grew up?

Hever of course would have been a lot less grand than it is today. The gardens are palatial & there is that huge ersatz "Tudor village" built by the Astors of course.

It's a shame Hever was so disfigured but I suppose the Astors saved the castle from ruination.
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Yes I knew Ann was part Irish. Was it Ormond Castle where her grandmother grew up?
Lady Margaret's family resided at Kilkenny Castle seat of the Anglo-Irish Butlers of Ormonde.

She pops up in the 2002 novel 'The Other Boleyn Girl' and is residing at Hever Castle ,her scenes from the movie adaption were sadly however cut.

She was played by Rue McClanahan.
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Lady Margaret's family resided at Kilkenny Castle seat of the Anglo-Irish Butlers of Ormonde.

She pops up in the 2002 novel 'The Other Boleyn Girl' and is residing at Hever Castle ,her scenes from the movie adaption were sadly however cut.

She was played by Rue McClanahan.
Thank you.

Kilkenny Castle looks magnificent. Definitely on my to do list.
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Thank you.

Kilkenny Castle looks magnificent. Definitely on my to do list.
The 6th Marquess of Ormonde sold the castle for £50 to the Irish State in 1967 as it was in such poor state of despair.
The castle was lovingly restored to it former glory.
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James I & Shakespeare at Wilton House.

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James I & Shakespeare at Wilton House.

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Wilton House was once upon a time a convent called Wilton Abbey which was founded by king Egbert and survived until 1539 when it was dissolved during the Dissolution of the Monasteries.
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Wilton House was once upon a time a convent called Wilton Abbey which was founded by king Egbert and survived until 1539 when it was dissolved during the Dissolution of the Monasteries.
Yes indeed & it was granted to William Herbert in 1544. Herbert had the good fortune to marry a certain Anne Parr in 1538 & so became the king's brother in law five years later. It is believed that stone from the abbey was used to build the new house.
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Yes indeed & it was granted to William Herbert in 1544. Herbert had the good fortune to marry a certain Anne Parr in 1538 & so became the king's brother in law five years later. It is believed that stone from the abbey was used to build the new house.
There were a few royal burials at Wilton Abbey

Edith daughter of Edgar the Peaceful lived her life as a nun there and was buried at the abbey church in the 980's.



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