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Old 07-24-2018, 04:12 AM
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Up until 2012, the only royals that received funding from the Civil List is the Queen, the Duke of Edinburgh and the Queen Mother. When the Civil List was abolished, the Sovereign Grant was established to establish funds to support the monarchy. Details are published each year and can be found in the Royal Wealth and Finance thread. Personal expenses for the Queen and her family derive from a percentage of the profits of the Duchy of Lancaster alloted to the Queen with the exception of Charles, his spouse and his children and families. They are funded through the percentage of the profits the Duchy of Cornwall alloted to Charles. They also pay taxes on this income.

What it boils down to is that the only thing the "taxpayer" of the UK pays for directly is security for the royal family.

The Royal Wealth and Finance thread makes for an interesting read and clears up many misconceptions that people have.
Actually, all of the surplus from the Duchies of Lancaster and Cornwall accrue to HM and the PoW respectively as their private income. They are free to use them as they consider appropriate. The Duchy of Lancaster, for example, provides the financing for all the children of the Queen (other than the Wales branch).

Subject to certain checks and balances, the Sovereign Grant is set at 15% of the profit from the Crown Estate.
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Old 07-24-2018, 02:37 PM
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Adelaide Cottage looks nice and private didn't Group Captain Peter Townesend live there at one stage?
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Old 07-24-2018, 02:48 PM
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These royal homes are important because with a republic, unless things are crazy, there is only one couple living off the State and with a royal family there are several couples living off the State. I do realise, however, that some republics have freeloading presidential setups which are nearly as bad as in the monarchies! So, I feel sad that Harry and Meghan are yet another couple living, in some way, off the State!

You should not forgot that with a President there are usually also former Presidents alive who also get an Income from the State. Here in Germany we had until 2014 5 former Preisdent living who all had the right to an Sold of Honor (Ehrensold in german) an office paid for by the State with several people as well as an car with Chauffeur. One of the them had renounced the Sold of Honor.
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Old 07-24-2018, 03:58 PM
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You should not forgot that with a President there are usually also former Presidents alive who also get an Income from the State. Here in Germany we haid until 2014 5 former Preisdent living who all had the right to an Sold of Honor (Ehrensold in german) an office paid for by the State with several people as well as an car with Chauffeur. One of the them had renounced had renounced the Sold of Honor.
Yes. In US, former Presidents and First Ladies are provided with lifetime Secret Service protection at the taxpayers' expense. It was once scaled back to 10 years after leaving the presidency (Bush 43 would've been the only one to be affected by this), but it went back to lifetime two years ago. Plus, all former presidents get a certain amount each year to maintain an office. Not to forget pensions for all other politicians as well.
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Old 07-24-2018, 04:27 PM
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You should not forgot that with a President there are usually also former Presidents alive who also get an Income from the State. Here in Germany we had until 2014 5 former Preisdent living who all had the right to an Sold of Honor (Ehrensold in german) an office paid for by the State with several people as well as an car with Chauffeur. One of the them had renounced the Sold of Honor.
Just curious: who was that who renounced the Sold of Honor?
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Ex French presidents cost 'the EARTH', and there are MANY of them.. the oldest extant [Valéry Giscard d'Estaing] ceased to be President in 1981 !
ALL former French presidents, are entitled to a €6,000-a-month (£4,800) "pension", plus if he decides to sit on the constitutional council, again his right as a former president, he gets another €11,500 a month. This is paid whether he decides to return to other paid employment.

He also has the right to a "fully furnished and equipped" apartment paid for by the state, two police officers to ensure his security, a state car with two chauffeurs, seven office staff and free business-class travel on Air France and SNCF, the national train company. And if he does fly abroad, he has the right to stay in the local ambassador or consul's residence.
The idea that Republics are 'cheaper' is a fallacy..
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Let’s get back on topic please - we’ve drifted far from what this thread is actually about. Thank you.
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Old 07-24-2018, 09:18 PM
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Adelaide Cottage looks nice and private didn't Group Captain Peter Townesend live there at one stage?
Yes, he moved in with his wife in 1945.
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This is a nice photo, shows the double story wing, could be more than two bedrooms. -

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Old 08-21-2018, 02:35 AM
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This is one of those times I wish we were back a few decades when it was 'normal' for there to be magazine spreads regarding royal palaces and living quarters. So curious! Wish we could see what Meghan's and Harry's Cotswold house looks like.

My sense is that there is a generational shift occurring regarding giving the public peeks into how the royals live: both the Queen (who started it) and Charles (who continued it) will be the only two royals to allow these peeks. Darn!
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Nice overhead view so you can see the location of the 'cottage' Looks like it has some privacy with all the trees.
I also saw this published as the cottage location in an online source, but see another site listed in several others. Per en.wikipedia.org, this would not be it - this location is VERY close to the horse show and other events.

I think the more likely spot is what you find if you search "Adelaide Lodge" in google maps, closer to the golf course/Queen Victoria walk at (51.4791831,-0.5900645)
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Old 08-27-2018, 10:03 PM
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This is one of those times I wish we were back a few decades when it was 'normal' for there to be magazine spreads regarding royal palaces and living quarters. So curious! Wish we could see what Meghan's and Harry's Cotswold house looks like.

My sense is that there is a generational shift occurring regarding giving the public peeks into how the royals live: both the Queen (who started it) and Charles (who continued it) will be the only two royals to allow these peeks. Darn!
Yes it was the Queen and Prince Philip who decided to open the state-owned residences. They wanted the country to be able to see their Buckingham Palace etc. while the private residences make money from tourism to help maintain them. The royal family is the keeper of history and as Head of State, HM entertains royalty, Presidents, Prime Ministers, etc. in those homes and that is the face of the UK. That will never change.

They also decided to open their own private homes, Sandringham and Balmoral. However, tourists never get to see the private apartments there or in Buckingham Palace, Windsor Castle, Kensington Palace or Carlton house. The same goes for Highgrove and Frogmore house, where there they only see the gardens and then rarely.

The homes of Princes Andrew, Edward, William and Harry are just that, homes and as such their privacy is maintained. So, because Adelaide Cottage has been a private residence we also haven't seen much inside it.
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Old 08-27-2018, 10:50 PM
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But we have seen inside of some. Unlike the Cambridges, people like Charles and Diana realized you could give gimpses of the kids without being totally intrusive. Instead of head shots in front of brick walks for birthday photos we got playing piano and in their nursery, on the play set in the garden. Kate is a photographer. She could easily share photos of her kids without having intrusive photo shoots.

We have seen a bit of other royal homes like royal lodge. There is less public interest thohgh.

Perhaps when Harry and Meghan have kids they may take a page from his parents.
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Old 08-28-2018, 12:28 AM
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But we have seen inside of some. Unlike the Cambridges, people like Charles and Diana realized you could give gimpses of the kids without being totally intrusive. Instead of head shots in front of brick walks for birthday photos we got playing piano and in their nursery, on the play set in the garden. Kate is a photographer. She could easily share photos of her kids without having intrusive photo shoots.

We have seen a bit of other royal homes like royal lodge. There is less public interest thohgh.

Perhaps when Harry and Meghan have kids they may take a page from his parents.
Hmm. I seem to remember photos of inside Apartment 1A with William, Catherine , George and President Obama. It's possible the photos were digitally altered and instead were taken in front of a green screen but that seems highly unlikely.
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Even Princess Margaret did a magazine spread of her newly renovated KP apartment back in the early 60's. I have seen some of the pictures from the spread. Wish things like that were more acceptable. (I think the Danish CP couple had a photographic spread of their renovated palace a few years ago, didn't they? Just before the birth of the twins).
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But we have seen inside of some. Unlike the Cambridges, people like Charles and Diana realized you could give gimpses of the kids without being totally intrusive. Instead of head shots in front of brick walks for birthday photos we got playing piano and in their nursery, on the play set in the garden. Kate is a photographer. She could easily share photos of her kids without having intrusive photo shoots.

We have seen a bit of other royal homes like royal lodge. There is less public interest thohgh.

Perhaps when Harry and Meghan have kids they may take a page from his parents.

However we have seen photos of the Cambridges and their children in their gardens. As for the Sussexes, should they have children then I believe that they'll share photos in which ever manner they feel is best for their little family.


Family photos taken in the garden of Apt 1A.


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Even Princess Margaret did a magazine spread of her newly renovated KP apartment back in the early 60's. I have seen some of the pictures from the spread. Wish things like that were more acceptable. (I think the Danish CP couple had a photographic spread of their renovated palace a few years ago, didn't they? Just before the birth of the twins).

Yes the photos were taken after the renovations of their palace at Amalienborg were completed.
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I've deleted posts discussing whether any future Sussex children will have RPO's. Let's stick to the topic, which is future homes for Harry and Meghan.
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Even Princess Margaret did a magazine spread of her newly renovated KP apartment back in the early 60's. I have seen some of the pictures from the spread. Wish things like that were more acceptable. (I think the Danish CP couple had a photographic spread of their renovated palace a few years ago, didn't they? Just before the birth of the twins).
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Yes the photos were taken after the renovations of their palace at Amalienborg were completed.
The Danish spread was shot in the public or reception rooms. William and Catherine photographed the Obama's in their lounge which was a little surprising. However, neither of those photo shoots came close to that famous photo of Princess Margaret wearing the Poltimore tiara in the bath. I guess it is a little hard to forget.
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However, neither of those photo shoots came close to that famous photo of Princess Margaret wearing the Poltimore tiara in the bath. I guess it is a little hard to forget.

Why even bother because no one is ever going to top PM in the bath with the Poltimore tiara.
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