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Old 06-29-2018, 09:33 AM
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Yes 1 is the Gloucesters and 1A is the Cambridges.


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Old 06-29-2018, 09:35 AM
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I read this thread before getting to this edition of On Heir, and so I had my antenna up for the discussion of Nott Cott when I listened this morning.

It was Omid who said three bedrooms, and it sounded to me that he was implying that people have a misunderstanding if the house and its layout. He specifically said people think of it as a “two up, two down, but...” and then said it has three bedrooms and that it’s “quite comfortable.”

Of course the thing about this is that you never really know where the information is coming from, but he is in a position to chat off the record with people who’ve actually been there, so he could know something we don’t. Or he could be misunderstood about it, too.
Oh yes it was Omid now that you phrase it...sorry about that!!

I think I will ask him to clarify that he was talking of Nott Cott and not Ivy Cottage by mistake.


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Old 06-29-2018, 10:11 AM
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When was it first planned? I'm quite sure that Harry's intentions were clear from late 2016/early 2017.
Doesn't matter when Harry's intentions were clear. At that point, others don't know if Harry's relationship will end up in marriage or break up. Plans wouldn't be made that far in advance. Even without considering that, the roof will have to be repaired as long as someone lives there. And right now, the Gloucesters live there. But I imagine that headline wouldn't get nearly as much interest.
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Old 06-29-2018, 10:12 AM
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4B would work. Why is everyone fixated on the Gloucesters’ place?
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Old 06-29-2018, 10:23 AM
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4B would work. Why is everyone fixated on the Gloucesters’ place?
That's what media has been reporting. The issue with 4B is that it's still quite limited with no private garden. KP has other things going on. There really wouldn't be any outside space for any children they might have to go to if that's where they ended up. If they go with 4B, I think it's likely they won't be based there.

And when Diana supposedly said it's grander than hers. I highly doubt it was meant as it has more room than hers.
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Old 06-29-2018, 11:15 AM
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Thanks, jacqui!
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Old 06-29-2018, 11:20 AM
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I think the Gloucesters might like moving to 4B; that may have been their desire all along - I think it i interesting that they keep 'offering' to move. they may be looking to downsize - a bit - still something nice and "comfortable" but not with the huge amount of upkeep.

If we know anything about the BRF is that there is a master plan; they just havent shared it with us yet... for all we know the Gloucesters have already relocated within KP (living with major roof rehab wouldnt have been fun) - but less drama and attention. I expect eventually H&M may very well be in Apt 1 with the walled garden and the security already in place for the Cambridges... just extending the net and coverage.
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Old 06-29-2018, 12:17 PM
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It’s long been reported as a two-bed but I understand it has three and is bigger than people assume.



Hmmmm so interesting.


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Old 06-29-2018, 02:02 PM
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Interesting...hopefully that means it's bigger than the rumoured 1200 square feet as well. I do find it weird that the specifications on Nott Cott would be misreported all this time. Reporters didn't dig up these details when W&K lived there?
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Old 06-30-2018, 07:21 PM
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I also think the long term plan is for H&M to end up in 1a. Easier, with less fuss, to get public funds for a future king. W&C will end up in CH with C&C in BP after repairs, and WC while it is going on. JMO.
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Old 06-30-2018, 07:39 PM
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I also think the long term plan is for H&M to end up in 1a. Easier, with less fuss, to get public funds for a future king. W&C will end up in CH with C&C in BP after repairs, and WC while it is going on. JMO.
I have read that Clarence House is not really a good residence for young children. So I think The Cambridges will stay put in KP until William becomes King.
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Old 06-30-2018, 07:44 PM
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That's what media has been reporting. The issue with 4B is that it's still quite limited with no private garden. KP has other things going on. There really wouldn't be any outside space for any children they might have to go to if that's where they ended up. If they go with 4B, I think it's likely they won't be based there.

And when Diana supposedly said it's grander than hers. I highly doubt it was meant as it has more room than hers.

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Interesting...hopefully that means it's bigger than the rumoured 1200 square feet as well. I do find it weird that the specifications on Nott Cott would be misreported all this time. Reporters didn't dig up these details when W&K lived there?
4B could be quite a successful stopgap but if they start a family they will have a country home. I think that they will be afforded paternity/maternity leave just as William and Catherine have done.

As to the size of Nott Cott? No, I don't believe they have "fooled" the media for that long. It is a cottage that is a real, honest to God, cottage with two bedrooms. They only need one at present and the rooms are supposedly not pokey. The only complaint I have ever read about the Wales boys living there was that the door lintels are not high even if the ceilings in the rooms are.
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Old 06-30-2018, 07:53 PM
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I also think the long term plan is for H&M to end up in 1a. Easier, with less fuss, to get public funds for a future king. W&C will end up in CH with C&C in BP after repairs, and WC while it is going on. JMO.
KP is the Cambridge’s official residence until William is King. KP has let this be officially known.
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Old 06-30-2018, 07:58 PM
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I have read that Clarence House is not really a good residence for young children. So I think The Cambridges will stay put in KP until William becomes King.
I agree - I also tend to think that Charles and Camilla will stay at CH and will forgo moving to BP. I am sure William will though eventually, but I just don't see the two sons moving to CH. It has particularly no outdoor space for the children and it'd need renovations and updating. It would also be a bad look for William and Catherine to move to CH and have another large scale remodel. Although, I can see CH going to Prince George once his father ascends to the throne.

The only way I could see either sons relocating to CH, is if Harry and Meghan were to forgo moving out of Nott Cott altogether and have their family seat elsewhere for the time being. However, with the uncertainty of timing and not really knowing where H&M are looking as a country home I feel this to be a fairly unlikely scenario. (I am also hoping for the Queen to continue to grace us with her unmatched presence for a long, long time & am simultaneously hoping for at least a pair of wee ones for H&M --> so, not really an option.)

Apartment 1 and Apartment 1A are 'final destination' homes - from there you only move to BP, imo & William and Catherine have previously indicated that they'd like to stay there for good.

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As for the topic of the thread,

I am actually hoping that the conversation eventually turns back to the York Cottage as H&M's ultimate country home. It is not in the best of conditions - to my understanding, so I could see the CS renovating and updating the home before leasing it to M&H in a year or two.
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Old 06-30-2018, 08:01 PM
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That's what media has been reporting. The issue with 4B is that it's still quite limited with no private garden. KP has other things going on. There really wouldn't be any outside space for any children they might have to go to if that's where they ended up. If they go with 4B, I think it's likely they won't be based there.

And when Diana supposedly said it's grander than hers. I highly doubt it was meant as it has more room than hers.
Oppulent, not grander. Meaning fancy not size. The floors alone are said to be over 200,000 pounds. 6 bedrooms is massive. You have to remember that doesn't count things like servants rooms. It may not even include the nurseries (or double nurseries). William and Kate's is described as 5-6 bedrooms (though that number doesn't include the rooms for the servants). The staircase is said to be breathtaking too. 4b is certainly not a small space.


They could also expand into apartment 4 which is vacant. It wouldn't be the first time apartments had been merged. Which if London is their base, and they don't get a country home for some time, is possible.
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Old 06-30-2018, 09:17 PM
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As for the topic of the thread,

I am actually hoping that the conversation eventually turns back to the York Cottage as H&M's ultimate country home. It is not in the best of conditions - to my understanding, so I could see the CS renovating and updating the home before leasing it to M&H in a year or two.
I just don’t think York Cottage won’t happen. Not only because of the reasons already stated about the difficulty in renovating it, but also because it’s on a tourist path.
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Oppulent, not grander. Meaning fancy not size. The floors alone are said to be over 200,000 pounds. 6 bedrooms is massive. You have to remember that doesn't count things like servants rooms. It may not even include the nurseries (or double nurseries). William and Kate's is described as 5-6 bedrooms (though that number doesn't include the rooms for the servants). The staircase is said to be breathtaking too. 4b is certainly not a small space.


They could also expand into apartment 4 which is vacant. It wouldn't be the first time apartments had been merged. Which if London is their base, and they don't get a country home for some time, is possible.
I think the issue will ultimately be that there is no secured outdoor space. It’s one thing for Meghan to have said to run in KP gardens with RPO, I can’t imagine they’d feel safe with children running around without RPOs whenever they aren’t around. And I’m not sure why 4B wouldn’t include servant rooms if 1A room count includes it. From the look of it from the outside, the scale matches 5-6 overall rooms to the 21 rooms in 1A
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I think the issue will ultimately be that there is no secured outdoor space. It’s one thing for Meghan to have said to run in KP gardens with RPO, I can’t imagine they’d feel safe with children running around without RPOs whenever they aren’t around. And I’m not sure why 4B wouldn’t include servant rooms if 1A room count includes it. From the look of it from the outside, the scale matches 5-6 overall rooms to the 21 rooms in 1A
1A doesn't include it all, as I said. It was described as having 5 bedrooms. 3 main bedrooms, and then nurseries. The 22 room count includes 5 reception rooms, 2 kitchens, and staff rooms. The staff rooms aren't included in the count of 'bedrooms' but in the general count of overall space. 4b is not described a 5-6 rooms Overall. It is described as 5-6 bedrooms (not including reception rooms and everything else). That count stands to be seen.
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Old 07-02-2018, 01:57 PM
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I think the issue will ultimately be that there is no secured outdoor space. It’s one thing for Meghan to have said to run in KP gardens with RPO, I can’t imagine they’d feel safe with children running around without RPOs whenever they aren’t around. And I’m not sure why 4B wouldn’t include servant rooms if 1A room count includes it. From the look of it from the outside, the scale matches 5-6 overall rooms to the 21 rooms in 1A
I doubt George and Charlotte run around outside without their RPOs in attendance no matter where they are. So I don't see the issue. And I'm sure there is private outdoor space at KP where any future Sussex children could play, even if it is not right outside their door.
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Old 07-04-2018, 05:53 PM
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It’s long been reported as a two-bed but I understand it has three and is bigger than people assume.



Hmmmm so interesting.


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Just on that point, wasn’t it in Notts cottage that H&M did their BBC engagement interview? If so it didn’t appear the same size as what I would call a cottage thought not saying its a mansion.
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