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Old 08-24-2016, 01:40 PM
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Does anyone have a photo or at least a description of the Queen's private dining room where lunch is usually eaten during the 80s or 90s? I was also curious if anyone knew what kind of china or flatware was/is used during family lunches? Thanks so much!
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Old 09-11-2016, 07:05 AM
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Take a rare glimpse inside Buckingham Palace's State Rooms

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Old 11-18-2016, 07:14 AM
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Buckingham Palace is to have refit / emotion work starting in April next year - and the Queen will not need to move out:

Buckingham Palace to get £369m taxpayer-funded facelift over 10 years - but Queen will not have to move out

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http://www.itv.com/news/2016-11-18/3...ingham-palace/
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Old 11-18-2016, 07:22 AM
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The news is all around twitter... many complanits about the cost, though it looks like the rebuilding cannot wait any longer...
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Old 11-18-2016, 08:29 AM
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It's about time and £369 million really isn't a lot of money given the repairs that need to be done.

The only other option is to have BP crumble to the ground.
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Old 11-18-2016, 08:53 AM
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The costs are gigantic but in my opnion the figures seem in line with current or recent restorations of other palaces.

The 17th C Huis ten Bosch in The Hague, much smaller than Buckingham Palace (picture) is now under restoration, costs: 60 million Euro. The main hall of that building (picture) has recently been restored for 8 million. The last restoration was 30 years ago.

A few years ago the 17th C Royal Palace in Amsterdam was restored (see the heavily scaffolded building: picture). Costs: 80 million Euro. The last restoration was 45 years ago.

Given the fact that Buckingham Palace is bigger ánd has long not had major maintenance since WWII, the costs seem logic to me.
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Old 11-18-2016, 08:55 AM
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A 10 year project. That will be a long time.
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Old 11-18-2016, 08:57 AM
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The state providing £370 million to refurbish Buckingham Palace is outrageous..

A premier League Football team could buy at least two players with that money !!
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Old 11-18-2016, 09:02 AM
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A 10 year project. That will be a long time.
It's being done this way to allow the Queen and her family to continue living at BP while repairs are carried out.
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Old 11-18-2016, 09:06 AM
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The state providing £370 million to refurbish Buckingham Palace is outrageous..

A premier League Football team could buy at least two players with that money !!
Haha, that is a good one!

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It's being done this way to allow the Queen and her family to continue living at BP while repairs are carried out.
I have the idea it will be cheaper ánd quicker when the Queen leaves Buckingham Palace and replace her court to Windsor, St James, Clarence House, whatever, for the duration of the project.

When a building needs to be in continuous use ánd has to look "acceptable" during a restoration, it only pushes the costs upward!

Another argument: the Palais de l'Élysée in Paris, the Hofburg and Schönbrunn in Vienna, Schloss Bellevue in Berlin, the Palazzo Quirinale in Rome, etc. are all residences in republics. All these are maintenanced for gigantic amounts as well. Queen or no Queen. So the criticism on the cost of the monarchy in (social) media seem out of place.
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Old 11-18-2016, 09:10 AM
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The people want the Queen in London though. I'ts the seat of government. Repairs will be carried out wing by wing. I think it's best this way.
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Old 11-18-2016, 09:11 AM
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It's being done this way to allow the Queen and her family to continue living at BP while repairs are carried out.
I guess The Queen also want to be at Buckingham Palace during her remaining years. It would be extraordinary if she would be able to be there to see the finished product.
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Old 11-18-2016, 09:17 AM
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10 years of employment for skilled craftsmen & women, and an opportunity to return the State Apartments to the richly coloured appearance originally intended by the Architects and George IV, rather than the pallid 'watered down' version that previous redecoration has reduced them to.

My JOY at this news is unconfined !
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Old 11-18-2016, 09:18 AM
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It's being done this way to allow the Queen and her family to continue living at BP while repairs are carried out.
The Queen and her family have places to live in.
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Old 11-18-2016, 09:56 AM
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IF the Court moved to Windsor for 'the duration'. so would all the staff who live/work there must move too Where would they be accommodated ?

If the Court moves to St James', these people would also need living/working accommodation in an a VERY EXPENSIVE area of London, about to become more so, since office space will very shortly be needed for those currently employed at the Houses of Parliament, whose [LONG OVERDUE] refurbishment is about to be definitively announced and the cost of which will make the BP estimates seem like 'Petty Cash'.

Really 'working round' the residents is the only practical option.
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Old 11-18-2016, 10:05 AM
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there seems to be alot of people complaining about this..but they seem to forget that most people visit england for those historic landmarks like Buckingham palace...and the restoration is probably long overdue...this is not just about the royals its about englands history..and i think alot of people need to get over the other stuff
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Old 11-18-2016, 10:21 AM
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Robert Jobson says it will be money well spent.

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As I see it, while a huge sum of money, it is money well spent because it preserves the building for future generations; making it a palace fit for purpose for the next five decades.

For many years the Palace has been the number one attraction for foreign tourists, bringing in untold millions to the public purse.

For London and the capital's economy its very existence is a veritable money spinner.

Ensuring it is spick and span is important as a symbol of the British brand abroad.
Read more: Would Donald Trump let the White House fall into the same state of disrepair as Buckingham Palace? | London Evening Standard
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Old 11-18-2016, 11:49 AM
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In the Netherlands the whole monumental complex of Parliament will be "evacuated" for the duration of the extensive restoration. The amount to be spent is higher than for Buckingham Palace.

The same argument as in the UK (Buckingham Palace is the residence of the Queen, a symbol of monarchy) was used: the Inner Court has been housing Government since 14th C and now it should be emptied for years, displacing hundreds of staff?

Finally the argument was that the restoration will be só disruptive (removal of asbestos, of led pipings, of old wirings, replacing of rotten wooden beams, completely new tiled roofs, security arrangements, exhaustingly precize restoration works to paintings, guilded ornaments, textile wallhangings, etc.) that a continuation of residence would almost double the prize.

Imagine the massive works, the complexity and... be sure that always it will take longer than expected because of "unforeseeable setbacks in the process", with an upward pushing effect to the bill. I hope the wish of the Court to continue the daily use during the restoration will not be a pennywise but poundfoolish choice...
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Old 11-18-2016, 02:44 PM
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This has come at an opportune time, the Palace of Westminster seems almost certain to undergo billions of pounds worth of work to keep it from falling down so MPs can't moan too much. Its unfortunate that things have got so bad but realistically there is not other option other than to either do the work or let BP crumble to the ground.
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Old 11-18-2016, 03:12 PM
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IMO it would be more efficient, cheaper and much safer(!) if BP was shut down for the whole renovation.

What realistic alternative is there for BP in London?
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