William and Harry: Contact with Foreign Royals - Page 6

SirGyamfi1 · #**101** 12-24-2022, 09:41 PM

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Most of these were events by the government or by the Queen not personal events hosted by the Cambridge’s or Harry.

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What a laugh: the Casiraghis royalty!? Monaco is a princely house, it's reigning prince is not strictly independent nor sovereign.

The Princess of Hanover is styled HRH by virtue of her marriage; she is by this marriage a member of the old royal family (as Queen Mary refered to it) of Great Britain. Indeed if salic law had prevailed in Great Britain, Caroline Grimaldi would have been the present queen consort. Strangely enough Queen Victoria had a soft spot for the princely Grimaldis and often gave them presedence over foreign royals. What she would have made of their present life style is open to conjecture.

I do not believe Queen Victoria was interested in the Grimaldis because her response to a possible match between one of her descendants and a Grimaldi Prince was that she wouldn’t want to be allied with a family that made money in casinos.

muriel · #**102** 12-31-2022, 08:27 AM

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Most of these were events by the government or by the Queen not personal events hosted by the Cambridge’s or Harry.

You are right, these are largely official gatherings that have been listed. I suspect any interactions on a personal level are unlikely to be pubicised.

Given that in the last decade or so W&C have met most royal houses in an official capacity, there would be a degree of personal rapport established. It it not unreasonable to think that, say, Victoria & Daniel do not drop in to see W&C when in London. Similarly when Guillaime & Stephanie of Lux lived in London, there may well have been private interactions with W&C which were not made public.

SirGyamfi1 · #**103** 12-31-2022, 05:41 PM

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You are right, these are largely official gatherings that have been listed. I suspect any interactions on a personal level are unlikely to be pubicised.

Given that in the last decade or so W&C have met most royal houses in an official capacity, there would be a degree of personal rapport established. It it not unreasonable to think that, say, Victoria & Daniel do not drop in to see W&C when in London. Similarly when Guillaime & Stephanie of Lux lived in London, there may well have been private interactions with W&C which were not made public.

I simply think that William and Kate are cordial and respectful to the other royals they have met, but as to whether they meet with them privately or not is speculation. IMO I highly doubt they have met privately with these couples, the only person with the most visibility in interacting with continental and foreign royalty and nobility is KCIII over the years and that’s because he was from a generation where meeting other royals was done more often not only with state visits, but private visits too because there are photos to show in his case.

muriel · #**104** 01-02-2023, 07:37 AM

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IMO I highly doubt they have met privately with these couples, the only person with the most visibility in interacting with continental and foreign royalty and nobility is KCIII over the years and that’s because he was from a generation where meeting other royals was done more often not only with state visits, but private visits too because there are photos to show in his case.

There may be some photos of Charles having met foreign royals from time to time, but there are also many occasions when time has been spent together, and there are no pictures. That is just the way the BRF prefer it.

As an example, when C&C visited Stockholm as part of an official visit, King Carl-Gustaf, whilst speaking at an official dinner, referred to Queen Silvia's recent visit to Highgrove. There had been no public mention or pictures of this till that speech.

Mbruno · #**105** 01-02-2023, 09:05 AM

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Most of these were events by the government or by the Queen not personal events hosted by the Cambridge’s or Harry.

William has known King Felipe VI of Spain since he (William) was a little boy. William and Kate also seem to have developed a private relationship with Frederik and Mary and with Willem-Alexander and Maxima.

I don't think they are as close to the continental royals as Queen Elizabeth II was for example to Queen Sonja and King Harald, Queen/Princess Beatrix, Queen Sofia, or Queen Margrethe, but I believe their ties to other Royal Houses will be strengthened in the future.

I also agree with other posters that, as the Prince and Princess of Wales, William and Kate will probably start attending royal weddings, funerals and enthronements as the King's representatives.

JR76 · #**106** 01-02-2023, 09:24 AM

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As an example, when C&C visited Stockholm as part of an official visit, King Carl-Gustaf, whilst speaking at an official dinner, referred to Queen Silvia's recent visit to Highgrove. There had been no public mention or pictures of this till that speech.

King Carl Gustaf has told about the many times he's spent with Prince Philip and his children while growing up and in his youth. The older generations of the two families were closer than we think. At the same time I remember Queen Silvia saying that they never really got to know Princess Diana which isn't that hard to believe considering the two families were busy with small children and a lot of work in addition to the stormy private lives of the Waleses during the time when Charles and Diana were married.
Victoria and Daniel often meet with Haakon and Mette-Marit and to a lesser degree with Frederk and Mary. We also know that they met Willem-Alexander and Maxima in Spain a few years ago, but had to leave early because of the paparazzi. They've also spent time with Felipe and Letizia (Letizia was heard telling Victoria during the Japanese coronation that they had to get together soon again). It was also obvious during the many celebrations of the 2000s that the younger generation of royals (heirs plus siblings) all knew each other well and enjoyed spending time together. This in addition to the heir meetings that seems to have included everyone except for the British (that we know of).
We never hear about William and Catherine meeting their European colleagues privately. Whether this is because they don't or if it's because, as we know, they are highly protective of their private lives is hard to tell. It does seem from when we've seen them interact on the job that they're no strangers to each other.

Moonmaiden23 · #**107** 01-02-2023, 11:35 AM

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William has known King Felipe VI of Spain since he (William) was a little boy. William and Kate also seem to have developed a private relationship with Frederik and Mary and with Willem-Alexander and Maxima.

I don't think they are as close to the continental royals as Queen Elizabeth II was for example to Queen Sonja and King Harald, Queen/Princess Beatrix, Queen Sofia, or Queen Margrethe, but I believe their ties to other Royal Houses will be strengthened in the future.

I also agree with other posters that, as the Prince and Princess of Wales, William and Kate will probably start attending royal weddings, funerals and enthronements as the King's representatives.

All of the heirs/Royals of William and Kate's generation have married. The last Royal wedding of their age group was HGD Guillaume's in 2012.

So they will be attending mostly Royal funerals and enthronements, I would think.

But if the funeral is for a Royal Head of State, the proper protocol is for King Charles himself to attend.

For example, I can't see the King sending his Heir when Harald of Norway or Margrethe of Denmark passes on.

Heavs · #**108** 01-02-2023, 01:06 PM

IIRC King Abdullah has mentioned that he is glad that William and Hussain have a good relationship (as forever showcased watching the football in Hussain's mancave in 2018

) I doubt they'll make it over for the wedding but it's a notable contact.

SirGyamfi1 · #**109** 01-02-2023, 08:04 PM

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There may be some photos of Charles having met foreign royals from time to time, but there are also many occasions when time has been spent together, and there are no pictures. That is just the way the BRF prefer it.

As an example, when C&C visited Stockholm as part of an official visit, King Carl-Gustaf, whilst speaking at an official dinner, referred to Queen Silvia's recent visit to Highgrove. There had been no public mention or pictures of this till that speech.

The point is that Charles is from a different generation when royal-to-royal interactions were more frequent whereas for William and Harry, it is less more than frequent to have those types of relationships. I am aware that the King of Sweden mentioned visited Charles at Highgrove but it was Charles hosting not his sons.

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William has known King Felipe VI of Spain since he (William) was a little boy. William and Kate also seem to have developed a private relationship with Frederik and Mary and with Willem-Alexander and Maxima.

I don't think they are as close to the continental royals as Queen Elizabeth II was for example to Queen Sonja and King Harald, Queen/Princess Beatrix, Queen Sofia, or Queen Margrethe, but I believe their ties to other Royal Houses will be strengthened in the future.

I also agree with other posters that, as the Prince and Princess of Wales, William and Kate will probably start attending royal weddings, funerals and enthronements as the King's representatives.

I am aware of William knowing the King of Spain as from the holiday pictures but he’s older than William and at different stage of life. I can’t speak on Willem Alexander and Maxima’s relations with the current POW. All I can say regarding Crown Princess Mary is that she and Kate seem to get on well, but I can’t say much more than that.
There is a difference between not interacting with a royal as opposed to not actually knowing of them. Sure William knows the King of Spain, but is he actually close to him? Not sure

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Originally Posted by Heavs

IIRC King Abdullah has mentioned that he is glad that William and Hussain have a good relationship (as forever showcased watching the football in Hussain's mancave in 2018

) I doubt they'll make it over for the wedding but it's a notable contact.

Yes, they seemed to be enjoy each other’s company and seem to get on well.