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Old 06-18-2012, 09:24 AM
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William was invested in a private ceremony by The Queen according to the Court Circular. Once invested he can wear the order.
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Old 06-18-2012, 10:37 AM
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The caption on the photo says that Kate is sneezing. Those cameras sure are focused on her every movement and gesture.
LOL that is funny
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Old 06-18-2012, 12:10 PM
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My guess is that once an award has been announced it's official. I've been noticing that Kenneth Branagh was being referred to as "Sir Kenneth" immediately after the Honors List announcement even tho the installation ceremony has not taken place.
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William was invested in a private ceremony by The Queen according to the Court Circular. Once invested he can wear the order.
Thank you for your answers, MarNoe and NGalitzine.
I know the installation ceremony is private, but I wasn't aware Prince William's ceremony has already taken place.
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Old 06-18-2012, 01:53 PM
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it was nice to see lady Gabriella at the trooping of the color on the balcony i dont think she was at any of the diamond jubilee celebrations
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Old 06-18-2012, 02:41 PM
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Thank you for your answers, MarNoe and NGalitzine.
I know the installation ceremony is private, but I wasn't aware Prince William's ceremony has already taken place.
The formal ceremony has not taken place yet - this is from the Royal website

Thursday 5th July
The Queen and The Duke of Edinburgh
accompanied by The Princess Royal and The Countess of Strathearn, will attend a Thistle Service at St Giles’ Cathedral, Edinburgh for the installation of The Prince William, Earl of Strathearn, as a Knight of the Thistle and attend a lunch as guests of the Knights of the Thistle

The Court Circular of the 15th June states that the Queen received the Duke of Cambridge where she invested him......Order of the Thistle
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Old 06-18-2012, 02:59 PM
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Thank you, cepe.
I appreciate all the informative and polite replies; thank you all.
I wonder just how the private installation ceremony went; presumably, it was far more informal than the official ones (I doubt William wore the robes, for instance).
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Old 06-18-2012, 03:04 PM
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Its the precise meaning of "invest" and "install" which are at the heart of this. The Queen invests him and then there is the religious element of the process along with the robing etc which forms the "installation".
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Old 06-18-2012, 07:01 PM
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With the awarding of something like the Thistle it is a three stage process:

1. The awarding of the honour
2. The investing with the insignia - including the robes etc
3. The installing in the order chapel.

#1 and 2 have been done and #3 is coming up in a couple of weeks.

The investiture would have been quite a formal event as it was an investiture of a person with an honour and therefore would have been no less formal than any other person's investiture with any honour - certainly no less formal than Zara's investiture a few years ago and she didn't get another knighthood. The difference was that it was private not a mass event.
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Old 06-18-2012, 08:04 PM
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William was invested in a private ceremony by The Queen according to the Court Circular. Once invested he can wear the order.
Pardon my ignorance, but isn't that a tad unusual for Orders of Chivalry? I know that the Garter is only ever invested each year before all the other members on Garter Day before they all march down to St. George's Chapel, or is the Thistle different?
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Old 06-18-2012, 10:13 PM
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Pardon my ignorance, but isn't that a tad unusual for Orders of Chivalry? I know that the Garter is only ever invested each year before all the other members on Garter Day before they all march down to St. George's Chapel, or is the Thistle different?
Knights and ladies of the Garter get two investitures as well (the Court Circular uses the word "invested" for both). The first is a private audience with the Queen.

From the court circular of May 5th 2008:

"The Queen this afternoon conferred upon Prince William of Wales the honour of Knighthood and invested His Royal Highness with the Insignia of a Knight Companion of the Most Noble Order of the Garter"

And then on June 16th 2008:

"Her Majesty invested Prince William of Wales, the Lord Luce and Sir Thomas Dunne with the Insignia of Knights Companion of the Most Noble Order of the Garter."

The other two also had their own private investitures on other days.
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Old 06-19-2012, 05:28 AM
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Re- watching the highlights and just caught a lovely glimpse of HM taping her feet to the music, Camilla was clapping along in the window as well. I love the personal glimpses we get at these events. But thing I always hate is when commentary interrupts the music, especially Claire Balding's horse commentary!
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Sophie, Countess of Wessex was on the balcony. Several pictures of her.
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Old 06-23-2012, 03:45 PM
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Look up Zimbo blog - kate middleton photostream The trooping of the Colour 2012 pictures 98-234 particulary 110 111 112 113 114 115 for Sophie, Countess of Wessex. Princess Michael of Kent is best seen in the group shots on balcony, remember to click on zoom to get a closer look, pictures save really well.
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What is the criteria for riding in the Trooping of the Colour vs. riding in a carriage? Why do Charles and William ride horses but Andrew, Edward and Harry do not? Also, I wondered why Tim Laurence, who is truely retired from the military, did not wear a uniform but Anne did. I know Anne has honorary appointments so I'm not bothered that she wears a uniform. Just curious why Tim chose not to.
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Old 08-06-2012, 12:17 AM
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It's because Charles and William are colonels of regiments that take part in the Trooping. I know William is an honorary colonel of the Irish Guards. I can't remember off the top of my head what regiment Charles belongs to. Philip, Anne, and the Duke of Kent are the other three honorary colonels who get to ride on horseback, though Philip chooses these days to ride in a phaeton with the Queen.
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Old 08-06-2012, 01:06 AM
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The ones who ride at the Trooping the Colour are the honourary colonels of the regiments of the Household Guard such as William and the Irish Guards.

Andrew, who is an Honourary Colonel of some regiments doesn't ride because his regiments aren't in the Household Guard.

Edward is the Honourary Colonel of The London Regiment and so rides.
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Old 08-06-2012, 05:40 AM
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It's because Charles and William are colonels of regiments that take part in the Trooping. I know William is an honorary colonel of the Irish Guards. I can't remember off the top of my head what regiment Charles belongs to. Philip, Anne, and the Duke of Kent are the other three honorary colonels who get to ride on horseback, though Philip chooses these days to ride in a phaeton with the Queen.
William is honorary colonel of the Irish Guards, Charles the Welsh Guards, the Duke of Kent has the Scots Guards, Prince Philip the Grenadiers and Princess Anne the Blues and Royals.
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Hi I have some questions regarding Princess Royal at Trooping:

1.Why doesnt she ride side-saddle at Trooping? Since the Queen always rode so..But ironically when the Queen herself rode behind the King in 1950, she also rode astride..Only since 1951(she started leading then) she rode sidesaddle.
2.Is it true that Gold Stick will be rotated between different household regiments like Household Cavalry, Lifeguards etc.? Then when will Princess Royal's term ends? When did she start riding at Trooping actually?
3.Are only blood-royals given the crucial Household Colonel ranks? I dont think a Princess of Wales or a monarch's son-in-law can ride behind the sovereign right? Just like at Remembrance..There is strict restriction only for blood royals? DoE also rode since accession. Others are permitted to Balcony..
Because in 1950 and 1951, when Princess Elizabeth rode, Philip DID NOT. He began only in 1952..
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Old 01-04-2013, 01:46 PM
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Similarly, the awarding of highest orders like garter, Thistle also seem only for blood royals, except consorts? It is done that way..
1.Household Colonels (Riding behind Queen)
2.Laying wreath at centanoph
3.Receiving Heads of States
4.Order of Garter/Thistle
All these seem to be exclusively for blood-royals, or consorts.
Have son/Daughters-in-law ever given these chances/honours? I guess not even the Princess of Wales gets these. D-I-Ls maybe Colonel-in-Chief, but for some other regiments I guess..
Princess Alice was given the highesy honour for an 'outsider'- Order of Bath. Nothing more..Can they be given much higher honours if the monarch feels they have done extreme service?
Please share some info on these things..
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You do not have to be a royal to be appointed a Colonel of one of the Household regiments. Field Marshal Earl Alexander of Tunis, former GG of Canada, was Colonel of the Irish Guards from 1946 until his death
Also you do not need to be a royal to be a KG or KT, infact most of them are not. In the Garter royals are considered Extra knights not regular Kinghts Companion.
I believe Princess Mary's husband the Earl of Harewood used to ride behind the his father in law on parade. Earl Mountbatten of Burma (distantly royal I guess) definitely rode in parades.
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