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Old 07-11-2017, 12:38 PM
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And just think - this whole royal family order thing will start again if Meghan marries Harry - oh what joy!!!!
Even if Meghan marries Harry, she is not expected to be given a British order anytime soon. Diana received the Queen's family order in 1981, but otherwise was not inducted into any state order while she was married to Charles. Sarah didn't get any order at all from the Queen AFAIK; Sophie, on the other hand, is a dame grand cross of the Royal Victorian Order, but she only got it in 2010, i.e. when she had already been married to Edward for about 11 years or so (she had been already made a member of the Queen's family order in 2004 though).

Again, the bottom line is that QEII doesn't give out orders lightly as other monarchs do.
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Old 07-11-2017, 06:27 PM
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Even if Meghan marries Harry, she is not expected to be given a British order anytime soon. Diana received the Queen's family order in 1981, but otherwise was not inducted into any state order while she was married to Charles. Sarah didn't get any order at all from the Queen AFAIK; Sophie, on the other hand, is a dame grand cross of the Royal Victorian Order, but she only got it in 2010, i.e. when she had already been married to Edward for about 11 years or so (she had been already made a member of the Queen's family order in 2004 though).

Again, the bottom line is that QEII doesn't give out orders lightly as other monarchs do.
I agree, but that still won't stop the debate about when she will be given it, why she hasn't already been given it and how unfair it is.
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Old 07-11-2017, 09:56 PM
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The Royal Family Order (RFO) and other Royal Orders and Decorations

Looking forward to a possible rfo being worn by Kate tomorrow at the state visit!
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Old 07-12-2017, 04:06 PM
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Looking forward to a possible rfo being worn by Kate tomorrow at the state visit!


Alas! Not yet....
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Old 07-12-2017, 04:10 PM
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Alas! Not yet....
Ivory, ivory, ivory!
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Old 07-12-2017, 04:12 PM
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They can make it without.

The Queen has simply decided that Catherine should not have it. End of really.
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Old 07-12-2017, 04:12 PM
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Ivory, ivory, ivory!
Well even for me it sounds plausible now.
There's something for sure... it's getting ridiculous !
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Old 07-12-2017, 04:15 PM
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Or the Queen has decided not to gift it to a woman who is still technically a part time royal...
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Old 07-12-2017, 04:16 PM
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It's getting hard to imagine any other logical reason at this point....Ivory


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Old 07-12-2017, 04:16 PM
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Ivory, ivory, ivory!


I will always and forever believe this is the reason.
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Old 07-12-2017, 04:25 PM
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I may be wrong but it looks like Prince Harry has on two stars tonight. Any suggestions?
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Old 07-12-2017, 04:39 PM
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Well even for me it sounds plausible now.
There's something for sure... it's getting ridiculous !
I watched the coverage and possession and when I got a glimpse of Catherine without her family order, all I could do was shake my head. I'm trying to not think about the unfairness and ridiculousness of it all.
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Old 07-12-2017, 04:49 PM
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I watched the coverage and possession and when I got a glimpse of Catherine without her family order, all I could do was shake my head. I'm trying to not think about the unfairness and ridiculousness of it all.
Its about ivory, IMO. William wants a complete ban so that makes the position difficult.

The Queen has indicated her support of Catherine by letting her use jewellery that is of real personal significance. I think that is important.

I dont expect everyone to agree but thats my view
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Old 07-12-2017, 04:51 PM
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Its about ivory, IMO. William wants a complete ban so that makes the position difficult.

The Queen has indicated her support of Catherine by letting her use jewellery that is of real personal significance. I think that is important.

I dont expect everyone to agree but thats my view
And not the first time either (bringing to mind the lovely bracelet she's worn a couple times, wasn't that a wedding gift for the Queen also?)....IIRC.



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Old 07-12-2017, 05:00 PM
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Its about ivory, IMO. William wants a complete ban so that makes the position difficult.

The Queen has indicated her support of Catherine by letting her use jewellery that is of real personal significance. I think that is important.

I dont expect everyone to agree but thats my view
I agree with this view.

If anyone there had worn an order adorned with an ivory miniature, it would have become the story. William has been championing the ivory ban all over the world as well as at home.

And I also think that HM is very happy with Catherine and is pleased to be able to lend her some "big guns" from the vaults.
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Old 07-12-2017, 06:01 PM
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Does Harry have another order? He was wearing two badges tonight.
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Old 07-12-2017, 06:05 PM
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Does Harry have another order? He was wearing two badges tonight.


I've asked the same question above. I've also posted about it in the State Visit thread.
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Old 07-12-2017, 06:08 PM
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The Collar of the Golden Fleece and the Sash of the Order of the Garter. Perfect.
Did his Father received the Garter also ?
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Old 07-12-2017, 06:28 PM
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Its about ivory, IMO. William wants a complete ban so that makes the position difficult.

The Queen has indicated her support of Catherine by letting her use jewellery that is of real personal significance. I think that is important.

I dont expect everyone to agree but thats my view
That's all fine and great, but Catherine should already have the family order. The order can be made without ivory. No one is using their heads on this issue at all. This wouldn't be happening with Mary, Marie, Sophie, Camilla, Diana, Sofia or Maxima. For some odd reason Catherine is singled out over something that's very easy to solve. Simple stuff.
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Old 07-12-2017, 06:30 PM
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Interestingly the Queen wasn't wearing her RFOs tonight was she?
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