Wow, that's an interesting fact. I think i'd prefer the brooch than the sash, hah!
I am glad Wikipedia updated their page, however anyone in the world can edit a Wikipedia page can they not? So someone may have read this and then edited it It also now says Zara Philips has the Royal Family Order...is this true? I do feel a bit bad that Princess Michael has not received anything, but I suppose it is HM's choice. Must be pretty tough though to see the other woman who married into the family receive orders and such. It would make you think she would want to work for her title, ensure she gains an order.
I understand that there are certain occasions when orders are worn. For example, at the banquet in May for the Obama's, did the women wear their Royal Family Order or the Royal Victorian Order? Or have I got that confused and they wear both? Alex, I imagine you can assist me! Also,
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I am glad Wikipedia updated their page, however anyone in the world can edit a Wikipedia page can they not? So someone may have read this and then edited it It also now says Zara Philips has the Royal Family Order...is this true?
Yes, anyone can edit Wikipedia. I've fixed the entries - didn't notice Zara since she was listed in a different article on the Royal Family Order in general. Whoever added the wrong information had no previous contributions and no user account, so you can see how easy it is for errors to occur.
If you see other mistakes feel free to fix them - it's quite simple actually!
However sometimes the editors refuse to allow your corrections, even when you can show them that you are right - because you can't quote a published work - e.g. you can point to the relevant Act of Parliament and show descent to show that the Act doesn't apply however because you can't quote a published work it is classed as 'original' research and therefore not permitted - I know I have had a running battle to get a correction accepted and have simply given up.
However sometimes the editors refuse to allow your corrections, even when you can show them that you are right - because you can't quote a published work - e.g. you can point to the relevant Act of Parliament and show descent to show that the Act doesn't apply however because you can't quote a published work it is classed as 'original' research and therefore not permitted - I know I have had a running battle to get a correction accepted and have simply given up.
That's true that Wikipedia doesn't always allow corrections. I remember a controversy regarding Princess Mabel of the Netherlands attempting to revise an entry in Wiki regarding an investigation in her background. I think Wiki refused the correction. I'm fuzzy on the details, but remember reading about it.
The Queen Mother, I believe wore the orders of both her husband and daughter as well as her ftaher in law, George V..
You may well be right Zonk, altough from memory, I only ever saw the Queen Mother wearing two family orders: those of her husband and her daughter. I can never remember seeing her wear three. Perhaps someone with a good photograph could confirm this? [The family Order of George V had a white ribbon, that of George VI had a rose pink ribbon, so it should be quite easy to spot what the Queen Mother is wearing even if the portraits are too small to differentiate.
No problem with the Queen Zonk but I look forward to seeing the Queen Mother with 3 orders - I thought that she only received Family Orders from George VI and The Queen...
I can only find the Queen Mother wearing the George V and George VI orders (sometime between 1936 and 1952) or the George VI and Elizabeth II orders (sometime after 1952). ETA: I also found one probably from before 1936, where she was appears to be wearing the George V order. So it looks like she had it, but just didn't wear it much after 1952.
Just a qucik question - while recently watching TV coverage of the reception given to HM the Queen at Parliament House in Canberra, I noticed that the 2 ladies-in-waiting were wearing pink ribbons with some sort of insignia. I am afraid the best picture I can find is this one - http://www.bta.bg/en/gallery/showImage/?image=107887 - where they can be seen at some distance at the top of the image. Is this some kind of Royal Family Order or another decoration?
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...The principle that one has to actually earn the Order seems a sound one...
Thank you for the fascinating description of how things work over there--it clarified quite a few things. I am pretty sure that Catharine would be an outstanding member of the BRF and she will eventually get it, but there is no need to rush the Family Order membership awarding. So on one hand, I don't think the Queen would give Catharine membership in her Order within a year, but on the other hand it wouldn't surprise me too much if she did anyway.
Just a qucik question - while recently watching TV coverage of the reception given to HM the Queen at Parliament House in Canberra, I noticed that the 2 ladies-in-waiting were wearing pink ribbons with some sort of insignia. I am afraid the best picture I can find is this one - http://www.bta.bg/en/gallery/showImage/?image=107887 - where they can be seen at some distance at the top of the image. Is this some kind of Royal Family Order or another decoration?
Actually I don't think Sarah Ferguson received any foreign orders and certainly no British honours. I know the Duke of York has the Order of St Olav, but do you have a picture of Sarah wearing it?
Sarah never received the order of St. Olav. Only the following British Royals currently hold the order:
- Queen Elizabeth (since 1955)
- Prince Philip, the Duke of Edinburgh (since 1952)
- Prince Charles, the Prince of Wales (since 1978)
- Prince Andrew, the Duke of York (since 1988)
- Prince Edward, the Earl of Wessex (since 1988)
- Prince Richard, Duke of Gloucester (since 1973)
With the diamond jubilee here do we think that the Queen will give some new orders out to the royal females to wear at the major events that'll happen. Perhaps Catherine will get the family order (big question mark there though) and maybe Camilla may get something (Sophie got the order of st. john after a couple of years of full time royal duties), I'd love to see that as well as the other minor royals getting some recognition, any thoughts?
Which pictures specifically are you looking at? The George V ribbon is a very pale blue that looks white in some pictures; Princess Margaret in the photograph I posted in post 66 is wearing the Order of the Crown of India along with her three family orders.
It depends on the order. The royal family orders can only be received by women, and they're always worn attached to a bow. (The Order of the Crown of India could also only be worn by women, although nobody has been appointed to it since 1947. The insignia was almost always worn on a bow, but the Queen wore hers like a medal when she wore a uniform at Trooping the Colour.)
For other orders, the upper grade usually has a sash worn by both sexes. The insignia of the lower grades are worn either on the neck or like a medal on the upper-left chest, and women generally have the option of putting them on a bow instead. (The Royal Victorian Chain works the same way. Princess Margaret, in the picture that I linked to, is wearing the chain around her neck. She also had the option of wearing parts of the chain attached to a bow. I think that would have overloaded her dress, though.)
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