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Old 01-09-2013, 09:29 AM
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The flag hoisting is reserved for the birthdays of the following people:
- The Sovereign (the Queen)
- The Sovereign's Consort (Prince Philip)
- The Sovereign's children (Prince Charles, Prince Andrew, Prince Edward and Princess Anne)
- The wives of the Sovereign's children (Camilla and Sophie)
- The eldest son of the Prince of Wales (Prince William)
- The wife of the eldest son of the Prince of Wales and his spouse (Kate)

Harry is not the Sovereign's son or the Prince of Wales' eldest son, so his birthday is not in the list.
When Prince Charles becomes King, that will automatically change.
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Old 01-09-2013, 09:37 AM
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Thank you for clearing that up - it was what i imagined would be the case and that it would change when Charles becomes King. So when that day comes there will be a big decrease in the number of flag days - Charles, Camilla, William, Kate, their first child, Harry and his future wife
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Old 01-09-2013, 09:37 AM
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When Charles is King the flags won't be raised for Andrew, Edward, Sophie or Anne anymore either.

When William is King, Harry will once again not have the flag raised.

It will only be done when he is the son of the monarch. If Charles predeceases The Queen then Harry will never be in that position.
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Old 01-09-2013, 09:41 AM
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Thank you for clearing that up - it was what i imagined would be the case and that it would change when Charles becomes King. So when that day comes there will be a big decrease in the number of flag days - Charles, Camilla, William, Kate, their first child, Harry and his future wife
You are welcome.
When Charles is King, the flags will be raised for the King (Charles), the Queen (Camilla), the Sovereign's children (William and Harry) and their wives (Kate and Harry's future wife), as well as William's eldest son (or possibly, given the impeding changes, his eldest child regardless of gender).
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Old 01-09-2013, 06:10 PM
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I would think that Charles will let the flag continue for his brothers and sister because they have been all their lives. Was there still a flag day for Princess Margaret once QE2 accended?
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Old 01-10-2013, 01:08 AM
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Was there still a flag day for Princess Margaret once QE2 accended?
It appears so, as her birthday wasn't removed from the regulations in Northern Ireland until 2002.

I also found a snippet from a book that listed the Duke of Gloucester's birthday as a flag day in 1957, 21 years after George V died. ETA: They were still flying on his birthday in 1969, as they had to be lowered when the Queen ordered them to half staff that day to mark President Eisenhower's death.
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Old 01-10-2013, 05:54 PM
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Thank you wbenson. I figured such. Once you are added, it should be for life. I think BRF in general is more respectful of time than title then what most give them credit for. I mean Princess Alice, etc.
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Old 01-10-2013, 05:57 PM
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When Charles is King the flags won't be raised for Andrew, Edward, Sophie or Anne anymore either.

When William is King, Harry will once again not have the flag raised.

It will only be done when he is the son of the monarch. If Charles predeceases The Queen then Harry will never be in that position.
Charles has no say in the matter its up to Councils.
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Martha Louise of Norway was told not to use her Princess title in her commercial endeavors. I believe that needs to happen to Harry & Meghan as well.
Out of curiosity, has the British Royal Family established any rules in relation to the commercial use of royal titles?

According to the websites of their respective employers, it seems the York princesses do not use their Princess titles at work. Was this their own decision, or were they told by "The Firm" that using them at work was not an option?

Which other members of the British Royal Family have earned money commercially, and did they use their titles for those endeavors?



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The old "royal goes first with commoner husband/fiance/other half following three steps behind is archaic other than events where strict protocol is followed, it makes no difference who goes first.
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What is the normal etiquette in the British royal family for those who are in the same position? Do Jack Brooksbank, the Duchess of Gloucester, the Duchess of Kent, and Princess Michael of Kent take care to walk or be seated behind their spouses?
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Old 01-09-2020, 07:46 AM
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Out of curiosity, has the British Royal Family established any rules in relation to the commercial use of royal titles?

According to the websites of their respective employers, it seems the York princesses do not use their Princess titles at work. Was this their own decision, or were they told by "The Firm" that using them at work was not an option?

Which other members of the British Royal Family have earned money commercially, and did they use their titles for those endeavors?



Additionally, I am reposting my question from another thread here:
I would say the birth royal takes the lead with the non birth royal following uon, i.e. Princess Anne walks before her husband but Catherine walks behind William.
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Old 01-09-2020, 08:01 AM
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Except they don't follow these 'rules' most of the time. You can see a number of times Catherine walking ahead of William from their engagements.

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Old 01-09-2020, 04:16 PM
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I do not believe that Lord Frederick Windsor used his royal title when he was a male model.
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The Queen’s younger sons are theoretically ahead for example of the Duke of Cambridge in the official order of precedence. However, I have never seen an officiall public event like a state dinner or a church service where that allegedly official precedence is observed. The Duke of Cambridge always walks in and is seated apparently with precedence over his uncles. Why is that ?
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Could it be that, actually, official precedence *is* being followed? With the sons of the monarch precedence, would it stand to reason that Edward would enter with members of his family and then Andrew, with his family and then Charles with his family and so on with the last and final arrival being HM, The Queen, herself. I may have a cloudy memory on this but it seems to be what I remember from arrivals at weddings.

Just cloudy thoughts on a cloudy day here.
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