Tatiana Maria
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I have replied in the following thread.
http://www.theroyalforums.com/forum...sh-styles-and-titles-258-238.html#post2290597
I have replied in the following thread.
http://www.theroyalforums.com/forum...sh-styles-and-titles-258-238.html#post2290597
OK here's another question. Harry and Meghan supposedly want to raise Archie as a "commoner". So are these titles automatic or can they refuse them?
I think the British monarchy is going to last a long time. I don't think William is going to be the last monarch in the UK.
The British monarchy is one of the safest in Europe.
I think the monarchies will still last a few decades, then it will soon be seen ....
I have my doubts we will see King George but time will tell. A lot can happen in 30+ years. Life proves that every day.
I certainly won't see King George VII, but that's only cause i will be pushing up daisies
I'd definetely want to see King Charles III and King William V (hope i have those numerals right ?
He may not be much loved but he'll be OK. he's a wealthy privileged man who has a role that means a lot ot him and he will go on doing his job. He went through bad times during the Diana years and I daresay tahtt he knows now that he may not be very popular but he has come through those bad times and survivied. He has a busy life, a wife that he's contented with.. and I think he's a reasonably happy man these days. Of course the monarchy may not last but nothing lasts forever and if it ended when William was king I don't tink it would break Will's heart..
I have my doubts we will see King George but time will tell. A lot can happen in 30+ years. Life proves that every day.
I certainly won't see King George VII, but that's only cause i will be pushing up daisies
I'd definetely want to see King Charles III and King William V (hope i have those numerals right ?
Unless someone makes a fuss about the fact that technically he'd be William V of England, William IV of Scotland, and William III of Wales and Northern Ireland ?.
A lot can happen in 30 years, but the monarchy's a constant. Politicians come and go. Political ideas come and go. Wartime comes and, thankfully, passes. Religious reformation, civil war, parliamentary reform, social change, economic ups and downs ... they all come and go. The monarchy's always there. I personally find that comforting. Others may not, but I do!
Unless someone makes a fuss about the fact that technically he'd be William V of England, William IV of Scotland, and William III of Wales and Northern Ireland ?.
I do think there will be king George. Will he be more then king of the UK?? Questionable. Canada and a few islands may remain. Canada really has no republican movement and may be the last to hold on.
Is there a credible source for this information? I'll wait for the official word from the "Firm" itself before I believe something like this rumor.
Personally, I don't think either Beatrice or Eugenie would even want to consider being "elevated" to working for the "Firm". It would be a full time job in and of itself and these two women already have their own lives mapped out the way they want them.
JMO
There was actually an article recently in the Mail Online that claimed the Queen wanted to elevate Beatrice and Eugenie to "working" royals.
It would also mean they would get public money and public funded security which 'the public' won't want to pay for because they are not wanted by most people to play a role in public life. If this story is true then the Quenn is wrong to think she can replace Harry and Meghan with Beatrice and Eugenie as it's not replacing like for like. H and E were popular (to start with) and large crowds came out for them. No one will come out for the Yorks indeed it will only spark mass criticism if they go on the public payroll. I suggest the Queen works with what she already has as drawing B and E into the equation will just cause more bad publicity.
I agree its not a great idea, but what HAS the queen "already got!"? She has almost nothing to work with. Tthe set up was that Charles and his 2 sons and their wives would be the main workers with assistance from his siblings and the Kents and Gloucesters - but Edward Kent is old and il. Camilla is not always in good health either.
The D of Glos is getting on as well, Anne is a hard worker but she is now 70. Its possible that these older royals might have health problems in the next few years that would remove them from the working roster.
Of the 2 younger royal couples one pair has now gone.. and I'd say will never be back.. so unless some other younger royals help out a bit, the queen does NOT have much back up.
That may be the case but If that is so, then I think that the RF are moving towards slimming down and only concentrating on the essentials. If you feel that what they do is just to "justify their existence", then there's no real justifacaiton for a monarchy at all. But I don't think ti would look good to drop all the charities at once...
Curious. How do we know that Beatrice and Eugenie cannot replace the Sussexes? Granted, H& M were enormously popular at home and abroad, but does that mean that the York sisters MUST draw the same type of crowds to be successful? What if they work hard and are dedicated to their charities like the Princess Royal? Is it all a waste of time if they do not have global rock star appeal?
I reject the idea that "nobody wants to see" Beatrice or Eugenie.
Unless they have ever showed up to an event and been booed and hissed, or even an appearance where no one bothered to turn up,
I tend to feel it's people projecting their own biases against them to say they couldn't take up some of the Sussexes slack.
Curious. How do we know that Beatrice and Eugenie cannot replace the Sussexes? Granted, H& M were enormously popular at home and abroad, but does that mean that the York sisters MUST draw the same type of crowds to be successful? What if they work hard and are dedicated to their charities like the Princess Royal? Is it all a waste of time if they do not have global rock star appeal?
I reject the idea that "nobody wants to see" Beatrice or Eugenie.
Unless they have ever showed up to an event and been booed and hissed, or even an appearance where no one bothered to turn up,
I tend to feel it's people projecting their own biases against them to say they couldn't take up some of the Sussexes slack.
sophie25, I was responding to the ideas expressed that the York princesses would be failures as working Royals because no one wants them.
Is there evidence to bear this out?
sophie25, I was responding to the ideas expressed that the York princesses would be failures as working Royals because no one wants them.
Is there evidence to bear this out?
Curious. How do we know that Beatrice and Eugenie cannot replace the Sussexes? Granted, H& M were enormously popular at home and abroad, but does that mean that the York sisters MUST draw the same type of crowds to be successful? What if they work hard and are dedicated to their charities like the Princess Royal? Is it all a waste of time if they do not have global rock star appeal?
I reject the idea that "nobody wants to see" Beatrice or Eugenie.
Unless they have ever showed up to an event and been booed and hissed, or even an appearance where no one bothered to turn up,
I tend to feel it's people projecting their own biases against them to say they couldn't take up some of the Sussexes slack.
I am not sure they would be up for it.. perhaps when they were early 20s if they had started off as working princesses, it would be one thing. but now they've built their lives, they are both married or about to marry, and have kids.. They might take on a few engagements, but Im not sure they'd want to work steady for the RF. I think they'd understand the "Royal life isn't always glamorous, its often boring and dull, but one smiles and does it.. " thing.. which I don't think that Harry and Meg did. Him as much as her in a different way...It's an interesting idea, and one I'm warming up to. I do think that they would have to be willing to work very hard in a quiet way to prove that they have the commitment and stamina to do royal work, but just as Camilla and Sophie have done, I think eventually they could prove themselves and earn a place for themselves.
So far as not having the glamour of the Sussexes goes, I think that's actually a plus, since we have all seen that no matter how much charisma the Sussexes may have had, they lacked the intestinal fortitude to stick it out. A lot of royal work is hard, unglamorous, and mundane so I think a willingness to work hard and persistently has a lot more value than being a superstar. Whether that would be something that Beatrice and Eugenie would want to do is less certain.