The British Royal Family: Race & Racism


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Putting this here since it isn't exactly only about the wedding and the BRF and race thread is closed...

Sky News Segment:Sky News Special Report: Harry, Meghan and race



Washington Post hasn't really done a huge amount about the wedding yet, but had this article on its front page yesterday:

What Meghan Markle means to black Brits

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-means-to-black-brits/?utm_term=.8f22a71eea21
Jean Carter had never bothered to come out for a royal appearance before. But when Prince Harry and his fiancee, Meghan Markle, made a visit to Brixton this year, Carter bought a bouquet and weathered a chilly afternoon waiting for a glimpse of the couple.
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Not to be outdone, the NYT (which seems more interested in the wedding) had a similar piece:


https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/12/world/europe/meghan-markle-prince-harry-royal-wedding-race.html

If Tshego is royal-crazy this summer, it is because Ms. Markle is biracial, the daughter of an African-American woman and a white man. When she looks at Ms. Markle, Tshego sees a version of herself, new to England, trying to find a place among its racial codes.
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“Paul Reid, director of the Black Cultural Archives, located on Brixton’s Windrush Square, said that the jury is still out on Markle. She’ll be judged by her actions.

“Does she help bring about change?” Reid said. “We’re not silly anymore. There was a time when we would have rolled out the red carpet. ‘Isn’t it amazing! Can I get a selfie?’ ”


That’s the comment that stood out for me in the WP article. After the wedding and all the hype has died down we’ll see just how much a champion Meghan will be for blacks in Britain.
 
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how much a champion Meghan will be for blacks in Britain.
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That is NOT 'her remit'.. her position is hers because she married Prince Harry NOT because she was employed in some sort of 'equalities role'.
To 'set her up' in this fashion is to guarantee failure. Being a member of a Royal family precludes many things, and principal amongst them is controversy of ANY sort. Like it on not ethnicity and equality remains so, in the UK [altho' NOWHERE near as much as in the Lady's country of origin]..
 
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wyevale said:
That is NOT 'her remit'.. her position is hers because she married Prince Harry NOT because she was employed in some sort of 'equalities role'.
To 'set her up' in this fashion is to guarantee failure. Being a member of a Royal family precludes many things, and principal amongst them is controversy of ANY sort. Like it on not ethnicity and quality remains so, in the UK [altho' nowhere near as much as in the Lady's country of origin]..
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I agree. Meghan must be a duchess for all Britons, not just the 7 percent who are black.

The American press really is pushing the biracial princess story which isn’t doing Meghan any good imo.
 
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Rudolph said:
I agree. Meghan must be a duchess for all Britons, not just the 7 percent who are black.

The American press really is pushing the biracial princess story which isn’t doing Meghan any good imo.
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Umm, Meghan is bi-racial and is not a typical royal bride, so the stories are not that odd.

Since the BRF is supposed to be apolitical, I don't understand why anyone expects her to champion black causes?
 
O-H Anglophile said:
Umm, Meghan is bi-racial and is not a typical royal bride, so the stories are not that odd.

Since the BRF is supposed to be apolitical, I don't understand why anyone expects her to champion black causes?
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Exactly...and I don't think that she will. I think that she will champion causes that affects individuals across the board.

If people expect Meghan to suddenly become the Mother Theresa for black causes in the U.K., I'm afraid that she will fairly disappoint them.
 
The American press is trying to superimpose the black experience in America on blacks in Britain.

Two entirely different narratives with entirely different histories. There is a segment of the press that expects Meghan to be a biracial duchess rather than a duchess for everyone.
 
Rudolph said:
The American press is trying to superimpose the black experience in America on blacks in Britain.

Two entirely different narratives with entirely different histories. There is a segment of the press that expects Meghan to be a biracial duchess rather than a duchess for everyone.
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Bold by me. And there you have it--a segment. I don't think that is the overall narrative, I really have not seen much in most of the coverage here to support that idea.
 
Actually, I don't see the U.S. press imposing AA experience with Blacks in Britain. I see it the other way around. Some in the U.K. press are harping on this.

What I see American news outlets harping about is that she is biracial, and that they are in awe that this is now acceptable that someone like Meghan (biracial, divorced, American and actress) is accepted into the BRF.
 
Rudolph said:
“The royal wedding is over. Now we can admit it was never a vehicle for meaningful racial progress”

CNN not trying sugarcoat it.
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"And it is absurd to think that one black woman could transform an institution so rooted in colonialism and Whiteness."

Yeah, she's not there to transform anything, she's going to try to blend in as much as possible, we're already seeing it with her appearance at the garden party yesterday.
 
I think this belongs in the race thread and not media?
 
That's going to infuriate quite a lot of Britons!

Who said Meghan should ever be a champion for black rights? She will only disappoint, because Meghan represents all Britons. She simply cannot favor certain segments of the population.
She has to represent all Britons or none. Anything else is political dynamite and a big no-go.
 
I haven't bothered to read the article, but it's not Meghan's role to transform anything, or being a champion of black rights. Her most important work as a member of the BRF is to support the Queen in her apolitical role as head of state and head of nation in the UK, head of state in 15 other countries and as head of the Commonwealth.
 
Lets face it. The word "apolitical" is not something any news reporter or mainstream news channel in the US has ever heard of let alone understand its meaning. In order for that to happen, they'd have to return to impartial news reporting without agendas and personal biases.
 
Muhler said:
That's going to infuriate quite a lot of Britons!

Who said Meghan should ever be a champion for black rights? She will only disappoint, because Meghan represents all Britons. She simply cannot favor certain segments of the population.
She has to represent all Britons or none. Anything else is political dynamite and a big no-go.
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And that includes the roughly half of Britons who are male. Royals have to be very careful to tiptoe around the tough issues for just that reason, you don't want to be alienating any part of your constituency.
 
She will represent all, but she may choose to focus on a few causes. I think she'll take her time to find the causes she is most passionate about. The media is trying to generate more content around the royal wedding while there is still public interest.
 
The Mail has no shame - no place has incited more abuse towards her than them.
 
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I know KP IG started to block some people that have crossed the line in some of their comments towards Meghan. I didn’t know the extent of it. This is ridiculous. It’s 2018.
 
jacqui24 said:
I know KP IG started to block some people that have crossed the line in some of their comments towards Meghan. I didn’t know the extent of it. This is ridiculous. It’s 2018.
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Unfortunately, the bolded appears to be part of the problem. Without becoming overly political, we are experiencing a time period where world wide people are feeling emboldened to say things that a few years ago they wouldn't have dared, and the easy access to social media platforms has just made it worse.

Very glad KP isn't tolerating it.
 
Actually they are tolerating it. There have been rumors they have blocked people but no actual proof. They are still allowing horrendous comments on their account with racist language and threats. If you can’t run an instagram account without allowing this then maybe they shouldn’t have one. It’s very simple to block people, words, and phrases and they choose not to. They could also just block all comments but they don’t. Kensington social media accounts are ran by amateurs.
 
Ista said:
Unfortunately, the bolded appears to be part of the problem. Without becoming overly political, we are experiencing a time period where world wide people are feeling emboldened to say things that a few years ago they wouldn't have dared, and the easy access to social media platforms has just made it worse.

Very glad KP isn't tolerating it.
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I know what you mean. The intention of my comment was that we should be better in 2018. Time has changed from decades ago when this type of thing was accepted. We should be better by now. :sad:
 
jacqui24 said:
I know what you mean. The intention of my comment was that we should be better in 2018. Time has changed from decades ago when this type of thing was accepted. We should be better by now. :sad:
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Truer words were never spoken. I hope we live to see it, soon.
 
KP staffers likely don't have a lot of time to monitor ignorant comments by people who have nothing better to occupy their time, than attempt to trash members of the royal family.

Daily Fail is so hypocritical. It's laughable that for this particular article about racist commentary on KP's Instagram, DF themselves suddenly decided to moderate their own public comments, which ordinarily they 'fail' to do. ?
 
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