The British Nobility thread

[iceflower]

The Marchioness of Bath attended the Aquazzura Cocktail Event during Paris Fashion Week on March 6:


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[Tatiana Maria]

Originally Posted by Lilyflo

The woman you mention is Charlotte Carew Pole and her campaign is here:
https://daughtersrights.co.uk

This link takes you to the latest position in parliament and I think it will progress (if slowly!)
https://lordslibrary.parliament.uk/w...of-succession/

Thanks, Lilyflo.

The present campaign began in 2013 under the name Hares are Running and was spurred by the Succession to the Crown Act 2013 which removed sex discrimination from the succession to the crown. Its previous lead campaigner was the Countess of Clancarty, whose husband's earldom is set to become extinct even though the couple has a daughter.

People related to the Royal Family who have signed their names to the petition for equal primogeniture are the then Lady Serena Linley (the ex-wife of the current Earl of Snowdon), Melanie Cable-Alexander (the mother of the 1st Earl of Snowdon's son Jasper Cable-Alexander), and the Marchioness of Milford Haven (the wife of a cousin of Prince Philip).

Charlotte Carew Pole, who renewed the campaign under the name of Daughters' Rights, was born as a middle-class commoner, so she is not in line to inherit any title herself with or without a change to equal primogeniture.

She was inspired to become an activist against male primogeniture because of the behavior of some of her husband's aristocratic relatives when she gave birth to a daughter:

Charlotte Carew Pole, founder of Daughters' Rights, a campaign against [male] primogeniture, describes her aristocratic family's reaction when her first child, a daughter, was born. Of course, they were happy to have the baby. But, she said, there were frequent comments about what a shame it was that the child couldn't inherit and how Charlotte and her husband "must try again." Can you imagine the heartbreak of seeing that reaction to the birth of your first child? Charlotte says she had not, until that moment, seen that people would actually feel "a girl might not be the right baby to have."

https://www.doublexeconomy.com/post/...ng-the-peerage

After seven miscarriages and two rounds of IVF Charlotte Carew Pole was “absolutely thrilled” when she gave birth to her daughter, Jemima. Yet the penny soon dropped that, for some, Jemima was not good enough.

“It was definitely a thing,” she said. “‘Congratulations, what a shame it wasn’t a boy’, or ‘How quickly can you have another?’” were some of the comments she received.

“There was a general expectation that I must keep pumping them out until a boy arrived. And all because I married a man who will inherit a title.”

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/l...ture-3qznb7j5l

[SirGyamfi1]

Originally Posted by Tatiana Maria

Thanks, Lilyflo.

The present campaign began in 2013 under the name Hares are Running and was spurred by the Succession to the Crown Act 2013 which removed sex discrimination from the succession to the crown. Its previous lead campaigner was the Countess of Clancarty, whose husband's earldom is set to become extinct even though the couple has a daughter.

People related to the Royal Family who have signed their names to the petition for equal primogeniture are the then Lady Serena Linley (the ex-wife of the current Earl of Snowdon), Melanie Cable-Alexander (the mother of the 1st Earl of Snowdon's son Jasper Cable-Alexander), and the Marchioness of Milford Haven (the wife of a cousin of Prince Philip).

Charlotte Carew Pole, who renewed the campaign under the name of Daughters' Rights, was born as a middle-class commoner, so she is not in line to inherit any title herself with or without a change to equal primogeniture.

She was inspired to become an activist against male primogeniture because of the behavior of some of her husband's aristocratic relatives when she gave birth to a daughter:

Charlotte Carew Pole, founder of Daughters' Rights, a campaign against [male] primogeniture, describes her aristocratic family's reaction when her first child, a daughter, was born. Of course, they were happy to have the baby. But, she said, there were frequent comments about what a shame it was that the child couldn't inherit and how Charlotte and her husband "must try again." Can you imagine the heartbreak of seeing that reaction to the birth of your first child? Charlotte says she had not, until that moment, seen that people would actually feel "a girl might not be the right baby to have."

https://www.doublexeconomy.com/post/...ng-the-peerage

After seven miscarriages and two rounds of IVF Charlotte Carew Pole was “absolutely thrilled” when she gave birth to her daughter, Jemima. Yet the penny soon dropped that, for some, Jemima was not good enough.

“It was definitely a thing,” she said. “‘Congratulations, what a shame it wasn’t a boy’, or ‘How quickly can you have another?’” were some of the comments she received.

“There was a general expectation that I must keep pumping them out until a boy arrived. And all because I married a man who will inherit a title.”

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/l...ture-3qznb7j5l

Melanie Cable-Alexander is no relation of the BRF but simply a woman Snowdon had a relationship and child with. The current Marchioness of Milford doesn’t have a dog in the fight because the current Marquess has a son. Regarding the Carew-Poles, I’m quite sure there are others to succeed to the baronetcy. Which branch of the family does her husband belong to? Their daughters could inherit properties or anything of the families, just not succeed to the baronetcy.

[Tatiana Maria]

Originally Posted by SirGyamfi1

The current Marchioness of Milford doesn’t have a dog in the fight because the current Marquess has a son.

The current Marquess also has a daughter, and she is his firstborn. But indeed, the current Marchioness cannot be subjected to the malicious accusation of being motivated by self-interest (as other female supporters of the campaign have been), because she does not have any children with the Marquess (both have children from previous marriages) and she would not personally benefit.

[iceflower]

The Marquess and Marchioness of Bath attended the B London VIP launch party in London yesterday, March 16:


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[Biri]

The engagement has been announced between Sebastian Edward Seymour, styled Baron Seymour (born 3 February, 1982), son and heir of the 19th Duke of Somerset (born 30 Dec, 1952), and the Duchess of Somerset (nee Judith-Rose Hull, born 1952), and Poppy Alexandra Wilcox (born 1990), daughter of John Wilcox, of West London, and his wife the former Gillian Saggers.

It will be Lord Seymour’s second marriage. He married firstly in 2006 (div 2014) Arlette Marie Leotine Lafayeedney, daughter of Daniel Lafayeedney.

Source: Peerage News

[iceflower]

The Marchioness of Bath attended a dinner celebrating the Giambattista Valli pop-up at Harrods on March 23:


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[iceflower]

The Marchioness of Bath attended the Dalai Lama's "Never Forget Tibet" Film Premiere hosted by Everyman Borough Yards and presented by Dr Deepak Chopra in London this evening, March 29:


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[Biri]

Who is this couple beside her?

[iceflower]

It‘s photographer Juergen Teller and his employee, since 2021 wife Dovile Drizyte.


The Marchioness of Bath attended a dinner hosted by Olivier Rousteing to mark the opening of Balmain's new London boutique on March 30:


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