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Old 11-07-2009, 08:22 PM
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mandrake/6521224/It-pays-to-be-chubby-for-the-Marquess-of-Cholmondeley.html

"The Marquess and Marchioness of Cholmondeley shall decide which one of their twin sons shall inherit the title and the estates by birth weight rather than time of birth(the twins were delivered via caesarean section)."
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Oh, this is a very big problem...and an original solution, IMO. Which othern criterions can they use, if not the weight?
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Old 11-08-2009, 06:18 AM
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"The Marquess and Marchioness of Cholmondeley shall decide which one of their twin sons shall inherit the title and the estates by birth weight rather than time of birth(the twins were delivered via caesarean section)."
Oh what an awful choice they have to make.
Could they not wait to have a third child?
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Old 11-08-2009, 07:21 AM
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I don't understand. Why should they go after the birth weight?
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Old 11-08-2009, 08:12 AM
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Could they not wait to have a third child?
What difference would that make? The first-born male inherits, their problem is deciding which of the twins that will be.
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Old 11-08-2009, 08:59 AM
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It pays to be chubby for the Marquess of Cholmondeley

titel of the article is so funny
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Old 11-08-2009, 12:16 PM
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I don't understand. Why should they go after the birth weight?
Possible because the boys were born by c-section therefore very close together time wise.

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What difference would that make? The first-born male inherits, their problem is deciding which of the twins that will be.
I meant could they not depart from that, and have their possible third child a son as there heir. I seemed to have forgotten how strict the inheritancy system is.
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Old 11-08-2009, 01:28 PM
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Why can't they wait with deciding who will inherit the estates and the title until later on then? Maybe one of the twins will be happy to give it up to his brother in the future? Of course, it has never been done before, but it doesn't seem like two twin boys have been delivered through ceasarian section before either, so what can you do?
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Old 11-08-2009, 05:04 PM
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Wouldn't one of the babies have been removed first? If so, maybe no-one remembers which one it was. Ah! The interesting questions that occur reading TRF.
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Old 11-08-2009, 05:50 PM
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In the United Sates the time of birth, is a "live birth", which would determine the first born or heir. Only one twin can be physically removed via C Section at a time or born as it were, usually 2 minutes apart is the average.

The birth weight seems like a "survival of the fittest" choice, and rather arcaic, IMO! (as a mother of 8 yr old 70 lb twins myself) nPerhaps the eldest twin has a handicap which might prevent heirship which we are unaware of at this time....
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Wouldn't one of the babies have been removed first? If so, maybe no-one remembers which one it was. Ah! The interesting questions that occur reading TRF.
The trouble is, even though they know which one was removed first, it was human intervention that delivered the children and that is not normally the way inheritance rules work. Didn't the doctors or nurses notice which child was nearest the natural exit (so to speak)? I can see this causing problems as the boys grow, because it will appear the parents chose one over the other. Terrible dilemma though!
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I am probably way off base here but I seem to remember reading once - back in the Dark Ages of the 1970s - that when multiple births are delivered by c-section it means that the child who is intended to be born second actually comes first and vice versa. It is also normal (but not always) for the larger twin to be born first so taking the larger twin by birth weight would also mean that they are taking the child intended to be born first if a natural birth had occurred.
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Iluvbertie may have hit on the reason for the decision to be made according to birth weight.

But I still foresee lots of fights deteriorating into ugly screaming matches with the second born screeching "I've got just as much right to it as you have and you were only chosen because you're fat!"
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I wonder, in years to come, if we will see a challenge through the courts?
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this caught my eye: so strange...........

'He was obsessed with Rupert for a bit,' says a female friend; another speaks of the sight of the handsome Everett in a diamond choker.
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Old 11-15-2009, 04:09 PM
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Iluvbertie may have hit on the reason for the decision to be made according to birth weight.

But I still foresee lots of fights deteriorating into ugly screaming matches with the second born screeching "I've got just as much right to it as you have and you were only chosen because you're fat!"

They should just choose the one closer to the birth canal, unless they were side by side.
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On a hot July day in 2002, a man in a modest apartment on the third floor of a block of Sixties flats had dialled 999.

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/theroyalfamily/6616592/Duke-of-Northumberland-faces-bizarre-challenge-to-his-title.html

"Duke of Northumberland faces bizarre challenge to his title."
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I am wondering if anyone could assist me, I'm looking for a Picture of Deborah Duchess of Devonshire in her Coronation Robes 1953 or any other Rare Photograph of Debo Dowager Duchess of Devonshire Thanks
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I am rather surprised that there is not a copy of the 1953 studio sitting portrait of Deborah Devonshire with Stoker in his outfit as her page on the Google images files!

I am pretty sure that Chatsworth would happily provide you with a copy of one of the photographs from that sitting for a nominal fee! I doubt Lismore have the facilities to offer such a service!

I wish I could be more helpful! There are various other photographs of Deborah at Google images which you may also find useful! Although I am pretty sure you have already had a good look through there!

Sorry I can not be more helpful

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