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Old 10-03-2020, 10:35 AM
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British people using titles with Irish (Republic) designations strike me as quite ridiculous. And that's without examining the history behind how many people from England acquired them in the first place.
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Old 10-09-2020, 10:17 AM
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Why Walpole masterpiece Wolterton Hall is the ultimate Norfolk escape

"A Palladian Hall built by the Walpole family has been lovingly restored by its new owners, a pair of interior-design connoisseurs, who have turned it into a truly extraordinary place to stay". Sir Robert Walpole (Later 1st Earl of Orford) was generally regarded as Britain's first Prime Minister.

At the bottom of the Tatler article:
Wolterton Hall will have 12 bedrooms and 12 en-suite bathrooms, eight double height State Rooms including two luxury kitchens and opulent interiors. Available for exclusive use with the 500-acre park from March 2021. Prices from £10,000 per night, including concierge and housekeeping with a minimum of a two night stay.
The East Wing (sleeps 14), The Garden House (sleeps 6), The Treasury (sleeps 2) and other cottages are available on the estate for high-end holiday rental. For more information visit woltertonpark.co.uk
https://www.tatler.com/article/wolte...oliday-rentals

Official website for Wolterton Park https://www.woltertonpark.co.uk

From the website, Wolterton Hall mainly host functions and provide accomodation. They do offer private tours, but I image it's going to be very expensive!
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Old 10-09-2020, 05:56 PM
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A very fine house. The brother of the man who built Wolterton commissioned the even most magnificent Houghton Hall, one of the great houses of England.
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A very fine house. The brother of the man who built Wolterton commissioned the even most magnificent Houghton Hall, one of the great houses of England.

Yes it is do we know who bought it from the current 10th Baron Walpole?
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Old 10-09-2020, 06:06 PM
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Peter Sheppard and Keith Day bought it from Walpole in 2026 according to the article.

Beautiful lake & grounds.
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Old 10-15-2020, 03:14 AM
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I know this post may belong in Irish Royal/Nobility/Aristocracy or celebrity threads.

Catherine FitzGerald (daughter of Desmond FitzGerald, 29th Knight of Glin) has made headlines, because her husband, Dominic West was getting intimate (kissing and holding hands) with actress Lily James at Rome.

https://www.newsweek.com/lily-james-...ctures-1538367

Tatler then releases two articles on Catherine FitzGerald and Dominic West.

Who is Dominic West's aristocratic wife, Catherine FitzGerald? | Tatler

When Tatler met Dominic West and Catherine FitzGerald at home at Glin Castle | Tatler (The original article was from 2015)

The Town & Country also have an article on Glin Castle (published on 30th January 2019): https://www.townandcountrymag.com/uk...e-glin-castle/

Catherine FitzGerald herself is a landscape designer and gardener in Ireland and the UK. Her gardening works and landscape projects included Glin Castle (her family home), Hillsborough Castle, Lansdowne Crescent, Clarendon Park, Holland Park Avenue, Glenarm Castle and St Olav's Church.
https://www.catherinefitzgerald.co.uk/

An Ard Ri has posted some videos and website on Glin Castle on the Historic Royal Palaces and Stately Homes with Royal Connections threads (Post #255, #257 and #259)

Thank you An Ard Ri for the posts and links.

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Glin Castle in County Limerick was the seat of the Fitzgerald Knights of Glin. The Castle saw action during the Earl of Desmond Rebellions in the 16th Century,the Cromwellian conquest of Ireland and the Jacobite Wars.The Catholic Fitzgeralds backed James II in 1689 and only preserved their lands and titles by converting to the Church of Ireland in the years that followed.The last Knight of Glin died in September 2011 and had no sons and could not pass on the title ,his daughter Catherine Fitzgerald who is married to actor Dominic West runs the castle and estate.

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Here are a few more photos of the last knights daughter Catherine Fitzgerald and her husband Dominic West at the Castle.

https://www.architecturaldigest.com/...f-a-fairy-tale


Catherine was previously married to Edward Lambton, Viscount Lambton (Future Earl of Durham).
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Another tour of the Castle and interview with the last Knight of Glin ,Desmond Fitzgerald and Senator David Norris.

Since Desmond FitzGerald, 29th Knight of Glin has no sons and the title cannot be passed to a daughter, the Knight of Glin title became dormant.
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Old 10-16-2020, 01:22 PM
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Edward “Ned” Lambton, The Earl of Durham is currently married to Marina Hanbury (now Lambton), the sister of The Marchioness of Cholmondeley (Rose). Ned’s first wife was Christabel McEwen, daughter of Romana (née von Hofmannsthal) and Rory McEwen (a son of a Scottish baronet). Romana was the daughter of Raimund von Hofmannsthal and his first wife, Ava Alice Muriel Astor, one of the “dollar princesses” and a scion of the Astors. Ava Alice’s father was John Jacob “Jack” Astor IV, the richest man aboard the Titanic (and unfortunately died in the sinking). Raimund’s father was the famed Austrian novelist and librettist to Strauss, Hugo von Hofmannsthal.

Christabel is currently married to musician Jools Holland. She is also a (half) first cousin of Rodolphe von Hofmannsthal, the son-in-law of the late 1st Earl of Snowdon (and therefore a brother-in-law of the current Earl and his sister Lady Sarah Chatto, the Queen’s nephew and niece) as Rodolphe is married to Lady Frances Armstrong-Jones. Rodolphe’s grandmother is Raimund’s second wife, Lady Elizabeth Paget.
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Old 10-16-2020, 10:15 PM
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Both Marina and Rose Hanbury reportedly worked for MPs. According to Wikipedia Marina worked as a parliamentary assistant to Labour MP Kate Hoey, until 2010.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward...Earl_of_Durham

Rose Hanbury "worked as a political researcher for Conservative MP Michael Gove, but left after having her first two children".
https://www.tatler.com/article/who-i...f-cholmondeley

Rose Cholmondeley, Marchioness of Cholmondeley at one point was walking next to Sarah Vine (Daily Mail Columnist and Michael Gove's wife) at the State Banquet for President Donald Trump's state visit. Michael Gove at that time was Secretary of State for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs.
https://www.alamy.com/rose-hanbury-l...248321604.html

Both Rose and Marina Hanbury made headline in 2005, when they were in holiday with Tony Blair (then Prime Minister).

Their maternal grandmother Lady Elizabeth Lambert, (their mother's mother) was one of eight bridesmaids at the Queen’s 1947 wedding to the Duke of Edinburgh.

It's not surprising that both Rose and Marina worked for politician, given that Rose's husband, David Cholmondeley, 7th Marquess of Cholmondeley is the Lord Great Chamberlain. The Lord Great Chamberlain is the sixth of the Great Officers of State (not the Great Offices of State). This position is ceremonial and has been held by his father, grandfather and ancestors.
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The Peerage blog posted that Harold "Hal" Messel, son of the 1st Earl's cousin Thomas Messel, just got married to Jasmin Barrowclough, last August in Portugal.

https://peeragenews.blogspot.com/202...ngagement.html

I do follow Hal on Instagram (he's a sweetie!) and he works as a sculptor. Like the rest of the Snowdons, they inherit strongly from their artistic Messel genes - especially that Oliver Messel is an ancestor, and Oliver's grandfather was Edward Linley Sambourne, the Victorian artist and cartoonist of Punch Magazine.

Hal's website - https://www.halmessel.com

Hal's Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/halmessel/?hl=en

I'll continue posting on the extended Snowdon family here in this thread so as not to cloud much in the British Nobility Thread (and that's a lot!). Of course we still have the separate threads on David & Serena and Sarah & Daniel. Though I wonder, when David and Serena's divorce becomes final, where do we put Serena updates?
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Old 10-19-2020, 07:29 PM
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Daisy Bell, daughter of Timothy Bell, Baron Bell (Campaign worker/adviser to Margaret Thatcher, Baroness Thatcher) married Andrew Gray (an Australian banker) last weekend in Chelsea Old Town Hall.

Daisy Bell - daughter of Margaret Thatcher's PR man Lord Bell - marries Australian banker in Chelsea
Daisy was on holiday with Cressida Bonas in Australia when she first spied Andrew in a bar on Bondi Beach, Sydney
https://www.tatler.com/article/tim-b...-old-town-hall

From Daisy's instagram: https://www.instagram.com/p/CGcVWY_A...ource=ig_embed

Richard Eden (Daily Mail) has a more close-up shot of the married couple: https://www.instagram.com/p/CGb6qR3n...ource=ig_embed

Congratulation to the newly wed couple!!!
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Old 10-21-2020, 04:03 PM
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Lord Rosse the half brother of the late 1st Earl of Snowdon turned 84 day!
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Old 10-28-2020, 02:28 PM
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The Book of Lismore a 15th Century Irish Manuscript was donated back to the Irish people by the Duke of Devonshire on behalf of the Chatsworth Settlement and will be housed at University College Cork.

https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/1027/11...ok-of-lismore/

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Old 10-29-2020, 12:52 AM
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The Marchioness of Dufferin and Ava (wife of 5th Marquess of Dufferin and Ava) has passed away on 26th October. She was an artist, conservationist and businesswoman. "She was still painting earlier this year, and during lockdown produced some wonderful landscapes, with plans for an exhibition. The cause of her death is not known."

https://www.tatler.com/article/march...a-dies-aged-79
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/obituari...telaine-great/
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/r...uary-m0dlfrlz2
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Old 10-30-2020, 10:48 PM
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I know that this topic has been discussed vigorously in earlier posts.

Lady Kinvara Balfour has written in the Telegraph to call an end to male primogeniture for hereditary peerages. Unfortunately, it's behind a paywall.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...mily-peerages/

Luckily Tatler has picked up the article up and quoted some of the content in the Telegraph article
https://www.tatler.com/article/lady-...itary-peerages

Lady Kinvara Balfour is the second child of Roderick Balfour, 5th Earl of Balfour. The 5th Earl himself has no son, so the heir presumptive is his brother, Hon. Charles George Yule Balfour.

Balfour, Earl of (UK, 1922)
Peerage page for Roderick Balfour, 5th Earl of Balfour (Current holder): Person Page (M, #67067)

The heir presumptive's heir apparent is his (Hon. Charles George Yule Balfour) son, George Eustace Charles Balfour (b. 1991). George himself is the second and youngest child of Hon. Charles Balfour. George has an older sister, Eleanor Cecily Isabelle Cora Balfour (b. 1989)

Peerage Page for Hon. Charles George Yule Balfour (Heir presumptive): Person Page (M, #67069)

Lady Kinvara Balfour also mentioned about her mother, Lady Tessa Mary Isabel Fitzalan-Howard (b. 1950) being unable to inherit the Dukedom of Norfolk and sit in the House of Lords. Lady Tessa Fitzalan-Howard is the eldest daughter of Maj.-Gen. Miles Francis Stapleton Fitzalan Howard, 17th Duke of Norfolk. Instead it passed to Lady Tessa Fitzalan-Howard's younger brother (or Lady Kinvara Balfour's uncle), Edward William Fitzalan-Howard, 18th Duke of Norfolk (b. 1956). Lady Kinvara Balfour has stressed however, that "her mother’s younger brother, ‘Uncle Eddie’, has tended to these responsibilities ‘with aplomb’, as well as sharing ‘the castle with us all generously,’". She also said that "Not for a second am I maligning him or asking for the castle to be handed to my mother".

Peerage page for Lady Tessa Mary Isabel Fitzalan-Howard: Person Page (F, #67068)
Peerage page for the 17th Duke of Norfolk: Person Page (M, #2445)

The current heir apparent to the Norfolk Dukedom is the 18th Duke's eldest son, Henry Miles Fitzalan-Howard, Earl of Arundel (b. 1987). Henry Miles Fitzalan-Howard, Earl of Arundel is also the eldest of the 18th Duke's five children.
Peerage page for the 18th Duke of Norfolk: Person Page (M, #62313)

Referring to the Succession of the Crown Act in 2013, Lady Kinvara Balfour has called the Prime Minister and the government to change the inheritance law for hereditary peer in the House of Lords.

I apologised and possibly bored a lot of posters for this very long post
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AC21091968, This is not boring whatsoever. It is very informative to learn who the heirs of the heirs are.
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Alistair Bruce pays tribute on twitter to his friend Lady Elizabeth Shakerley who died this morning.

https://twitter.com/AlastairBruce_/s...234183168?s=19

Lady Elizabeth was born in 1941 at Windsor Castle to Viscount Anson and Anne Bowes-Lyon. Her mother was the niece of Queen Elizabeth, The Queen Mother and married secondly the Prince George of Denmark making her a cousin-in-law of both Belgian and Norwegian monarchs.
Lady Elizabeth, who was married to Sir Geoffrey Shakerley 6th Baronet in 1972-2009, was a close friend of her cousin The Queen and also of Princess Beatrix of the Netherlands and the King & Queen of Norway.
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Thank JR76 .She deserves a new thread !
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Old 11-01-2020, 08:14 AM
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May she rest in Peace I had forgotten the late Lord Lichfield was her older brother.
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Old 11-01-2020, 05:16 PM
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Me neither, I didn't realise the Lichfield connection.

May she RIP.
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Lady Elizabeth Shakerley (I always knew of her by her professional name Lady Elizabeth Anson) was one of those figures often in the background of many an important royal event and often gave commentary in documentaries about The Queen.

She was the soul of discretion and a very loyal friend to the Queen. May she rest in peace.

This is a great interview she gave to Kay Burley of Sky News:

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