The British Nobility thread 1: Ending 2022


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Lady Sabrina Percy attended a VIP dinner hosted by Fortnum & Mason and Sarabande yesterday, November 20:

Lady Sabrina Percy at the Monica Vinader and Whitney Bromberg Hawkings co-host VIP Thanksgiving Dinner in London today
Please, stop calling her "Lady". She is Miss Sabrina Percy. She doesn't have any title.
 
Please, stop calling her "Lady". She is Miss Sabrina Percy. She doesn't have any title.

I had to look her up and you're right. If I have the correct Sabrina Percy, she's the great-great-granddaughter of the 7th Duke of Northumberland. So no "Lady" for her, she's only a Miss or Ms.
 
Please, stop calling her "Lady". She is Miss Sabrina Percy. She doesn't have any title.

Oh, these titles.. In some articles and captions the "lady" is added, in some it's not..Very confusing, I'll try to make a mental note of it ;)
 
Great dresses such as the grey Percy dress . Sarah is underdressed , she does not belong to this kind of people.
 
Would have been quite the soirée. Blenheim Place is spectacular, 200,000 feet.

The Duke of Wellington paid John Churchill, 1st Duke Of Marlborough, the highest compliment.

He said “he could conceive of nothing greater than Marlborough at the head of an English army".
 
The Viscount appears to have fully embraced the vodka aspect of the party. :lol:
 
Her Grace The Duchess of Abercorn OBE has died after an illness. Her Grace was the wife of The Duke of Abercorn KG the current Chancellor of the Order of the Garter Duchess of Abercorn dies after illness - The Irish News

A Lady with an incredibly interesting lineage, as well as being the wife of the Duke of Abercorn. She was the granddaughter of Lady Zia Wernher (neé Countess Anastasia de Torby, daughter of Grand Duke Michael Mikhailovich of Russia).
Lady Zia's daughter Georgina, Lady Kennard (the mother of the late Duchess of Abercorn), was a close friend of Prince Philip Duke of Edinburgh in their youth, partly due to the marriage of Lady Zia's sister Nadejda to Prince George of Battenberg, later 2nd Marquess of Milford Haven - and an uncle of Prince Philip.
The wedding of the 4th Duke of Abercorn to the late Duchess at Westminster Abbey in 1966 was attended by many members of the Royal Family including The Queen, the Duke of Edinburgh, and Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother.
 
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Viscountess Weymouth attended Mick Jagger's Christmas Party in London yesterday, December 13:


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Viscount Weymouth and Viscountess Weymouth attend Lisa Tchenguiz's birthday party at Buddha Bar Knightsbridge on 19 January in London

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Viscountess Weymouth leaving club Annabel's in Mayfair last night

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/...lay-leaves-private-members-club-Annabels.html

Lady Frances von Hofmannsthal daughter of the 1st Earl of Snowdon attends a gala dinner celebrating the opening of the 'Christian Dior: Designer of Dreams' exhibition at The V&A on 29 January in London


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With Daniel Chatto

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Lady Frances von Hofmannsthal at the Burberry collection launch party in London Fashion Week on 15 February

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The Duchess of Rutland and two of her daughters attended the private view of the "Christian Dior: Designer of Dreams" exhibition in London on January 30:


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Yes, there are a few. But most were created when we were still a dominion. Since 1917, you have to have British citizenship to accept a peerage. Which by the old Canadian citizenship act, you could only hold dual citizenship if you married a Brit. 1st Baron Thomson actually gave up his citizenship to be a peer. His son and grandson who followed though were/are Canadians still. And yes they are 5 billion pounds richer then the Duke of Westminster.


Anyone who used to watch the show 'The Nanny' or who watched Days of Our Lives back in the day and know the character Shane Donnovan, know another Canadian peer. The actor Charles Shaughnessy is 5th Baron Shaughnessy. As he only has daughters, his brother is heir. Though they hold a Canadian peerage, Charles and his brother were raised in London.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Shaughnessy


The other Canadian peerages that are extant:


Peers created before 1917

Baron Strathcona and Mount Royal: Currently held by 5th baron
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baron_Strathcona_and_Mount_Royal

Baron Shaughnessy (above)

Baron Beaverbrook: held by the 3rd baron. Another who lives in UK
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxwell_Aitken,_3rd_Baron_Beaverbrook

Baron Morris: held by the 4th baron
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baron_Morris

after 1917

Baron Thomson of Fleet

Baron Coleraine: technically was born in the UK, but had duel citizenship due to his father. Holder is his son


There are 8 extinct peerages, including 3 viscounts. And a number of life peerages as well. There are also peers who have chosen to live in Canada, but whose titles originated in the UK of course.


There were also Canadian peers in the French system as well. All but one of them have gone extinct.

Baron de Longueuil is still extant. Its the only French colonial peerage recognized by the queen. The first baron was given his peerage in 1700 by Louis XIV. It is currently held by the 12th Baron.


Note the current Baron Longueill is actually a second cousin of the queen. His mother was Ernestine Bowes-Lyon. Her father was the queen mum's older brother Ernest. Ernestine grew up at Glammis castle, and around the queen mum. His daughter is actress Rachel Grant

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Grant,_12th_Baron_de_Longueuil
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernestine_Bowes-Lyon
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachel_Grant
 
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Viscountess Weymouth attended the "British Vogue and Tiffany & Co. Celebrate Fashion and Film Party" at Annabel's on February 10:


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Lady Frances is the daughter of the late 1st Earl Snowdon and a half sister of the current 2nd Earl and Lady Sarah Chatto.
 
Yes, clearly Sarah and Frances both got a majority of their looks from their dad. Its not hard to see they are sisters, even if half.
 
A Conservative backbencher Member of Parliament will propose a Ten Minute Rule Bill today regarding female succession to hereditary titles. Ten Minute Rule Bills are not expected to become law, but they can serve as a test of the amount of support in Parliament for potential changes.
 
A Conservative backbencher Member of Parliament will propose a Ten Minute Rule Bill today regarding female succession to hereditary titles. Ten Minute Rule Bills are not expected to become law, but they can serve as a test of the amount of support in Parliament for potential changes.

Hereditary Titles (Female Succession) – Hansard

Ten MPs became co-sponsors of the bill, including eight women but only two men. A Ten Minute Rule Bill may be challenged by one Member of Parliament, and Martin Docherty-Hughes held a speech bitterly opposing it. Mr. Docherty-Hugues called the proposal "tosh", claiming that it would "enshrine privilege in the hereditary peerage" and that older women and the women in his community who voted for him would be "appalled" at it. However, his claims are false. Female hereditary peers do not, and would not according to the bill, enjoy any privileges above male hereditary peers. The YouGov survey last year showed that 79% of women, 75% of people age 50 and older, and 74% of supporters of Mr. Docherty-Hugues' party (the SNP) believe daughters should have the same rights as sons to inherit titles.

But it seems allowing women and girls to inherit remains a very controversial proposal in Parliament.
 
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