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Old 07-07-2016, 04:08 AM
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Prince Charles, the daughter he never had and the saga behind this wedding photo* | Daily Mail Online
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Old 07-24-2016, 10:02 PM
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The announcement of his engagement to Princess Elizabeth brought about a change in Prince Philip Mountbatten's life. His valet was the Mountbatten's former butler, John Dean.
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Old 07-25-2016, 01:02 AM
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what was the change you're referring to?
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Charles never proposed to Amanda. She was pushed towards Charles, as we know, by "Uncle Dickie". A serious relationship never sparked between Charles and Amanda. This was written in one of Sarah Bradford's books, the one about the Queen, I think. I have to check later. I understand Alexandra specifically requested Charles escort her at her wedding whether it was due to her father's ill health or due to her still being angry at him leaving her mother and his family for another woman, or perhaps a combination of both.
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Old 07-29-2016, 10:18 PM
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Did Lord Louis Mountbatten want to bestow knighthoods in India after he became the Viceroy of India?
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Old 07-30-2016, 01:13 AM
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Not to my knowledge. When Lord Mountbatten became the last Viceroy of India, his main purpose was to facilitate the establishment of an independent India while trying to find a way that would satisfy both the Hindu, Sikh and Muslem populations. We all are aware of how it turned out.
OT: There's an excellent book " Indian Summer, The Secret History Of The End Of An Empire" by Alex Von Tunzelmann which tells of the roles Louis Mountbatten, his wife Edwina and India's first PM Nehru played in independence and Partition. I do have to state that the author described Lord Mountbatten, "as a dashing, but totally inept Viceroy." (the author's words, not mine.)
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Old 08-05-2016, 09:53 PM
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Lord Louis Mountbatten's sons-in-law are John Knatchbull and David Hicks. John became the Earl of Brabourne. David was an interior decorator. Did Lord Louis Mountbatten have objections to David's career as an interior decorator?
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Old 08-05-2016, 10:14 PM
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Why would he? Hicks was a well known designer and he'd been to public school so he was upperclass anyway, even if his father was a stockbroker! Earl Mountbatten obviously approved, because the couple were married at Romsey Abbey near the family home, Broadlands, and there was a large guest list, including royals.
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Old 08-05-2016, 11:22 PM
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I have never read of any issues between Louis and David. He certainly didn't try and convince her not to marry David as he had others. Pamela and her dad were very close. Both his son in laws, even if one was an aristocrat, were artists. Lord Brabourne was a movie producer. David, though they sold first house due to finances, was a very prominent designer who had aristocratic and royal clients.

I would love to tour Grove on day, rarely open to public. David designed the gardens and interior.
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Old 08-09-2016, 10:00 AM
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Charles never proposed to Amanda. She was pushed towards Charles, as we know, by "Uncle Dickie". A serious relationship never sparked between Charles and Amanda. This was written in one of Sarah Bradford's books, the one about the .
I have had my doubts, but I do believe that in a bio of Charles by Gyles Brandreth, there is a note of a proposal. However I dotnt believe that Charles wanted to marry her very much and she didn't want to marry him.
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They knew each other for quite a bit of time and had spent considerable time in each other's company to know they weren't suited for each other as far as a marriage goes but that didn't detract them from being lifelong friends.

From what I've read, Charles did propose. Whether it was out of a sense of duty to the memory of Uncle Dickie or that he really felt that he and Amanda could make a go of it, I don't know. The spark just wasn't there. This all happened right before the Cowes Week where Diana happened to have been invited to attend and was there to "cheer" Charles up. At the time, it seemed to be the best medicine.
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Old 08-09-2016, 10:22 PM
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In 1974 did Charles mention anything to Amanda's mother about possibly marrying Amanda? Amanda was then only seventeen.
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Old 08-09-2016, 10:45 PM
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They knew each other for quite a bit of time and had spent considerable time in each other's company to know they weren't suited for each other as far as a marriage goes but that didn't detract them from being lifelong friends.

From what I've read, Charles did propose. Whether it was out of a sense of duty to the memory of Uncle Dickie .
I think that there is something in Dimbleby to indicate that he proposed and also Gyles Brandreth. but it is some time since I read Dimbleby.
I've read that Amanda's mother said there was "no spark".. So It seems like it was a rather half hearted proposal, perhaps undertaken in a spirit of being loyal to Dickie's memory.
On the plus side, I think he knew Amanda and got on with her.. but she knew him well enough to know that she didn't want to marry him and I think certainly didn't want a public life...
But he DID I think feel a bit of a spark with Diana.. He found her attractive, she seemed lively and charming and willing to sympathise with him, for Mountbattens' death and his "Lonely" lifestyle.
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Old 08-09-2016, 10:45 PM
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According to a biography of Charles, yes. And she suggested courtship as Amanda was only 16. She was meant to accompany him and Louis to India in 1980 but Louis was killed. After Louis, her brother and maternal grandma were killed she understandably was scared to be in the BRF. Considering her 29 year marriage to Charles Ellingworth, doubt she has looked back.
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Old 09-14-2016, 10:09 PM
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Were Louis and Edwina Mountbatten The golden couple?
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Old 09-14-2016, 11:07 PM
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The lifestyle of the Lord Louis Mountbattens was certainly cushioned by Edwina's huge inherited wealth. This also allowed Louis's great ambition to get to the top of the Royal Navy and become a national figure to become reality. A 'Golden Couple' though? Only if you believe constant infidelities and regular separations due to business and pleasure are an essential part of the package.
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well for upper class people of the time yes they did spent time apart, due ot work commitments. not that differenet to middle class ambitious people today. I know plenty of people who are always travelling for work, they cant spend much time iwht their partners (or kids). And I tihnk that frankly a few affairs are far less traumatic to children than people getting divorced all the time and inflicting new step parents on their unfiortunate kids.
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Oh Please... Edwina's fortune paid for all of them. That woman kept Lord Louis, his sister, Princess Alice, his aunt and uncle Prince Francis and Princess Anna, all with allowances.

I find it interesting that women saved these royal backsides from genteel poverty. Princess Marie Bonaparte, Princess Anastasia - the former Nancy Leeds - Edwina Mountbatten, and today Princess Marie Chantal - all with their fortunes paid for these people to live a royal life.
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Old 09-15-2016, 10:50 AM
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well for upper class people of the time yes they did spent time apart, due ot work commitments. not that differenet to middle class ambitious people today. I know plenty of people who are always travelling for work, they cant spend much time iwht their partners (or kids). And I tihnk that frankly a few affairs are far less traumatic to children than people getting divorced all the time and inflicting new step parents on their unfiortunate kids.
Edwina didn't travel for work purposes. She suffered from wanderlust and travelled, sometimes with female companions, all over known parts of the world and some unknown ones as well. Some of them very wild and woolly places indeed.

She wasn't very interested in her two daughters, who have at times been a bit acid about her, or home life, or her marriage really. She certainly couldn't be called a devoted mother or wife, and I'm quite sure that her daughters would have quite liked to have had their mother (and father too, but at least he was usually away on naval business) at home for their holidays a lot more than they did.
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Edwina did a lot of work when WWII and she put forth much effort in India while Lord Louis was Viceroy and the Independence question was raging. Edwina and Nehru, were, for a long time, the subject of rumors that they were lovers, but in fact, were close dear friends. Edwina is, for the most part, always the spouse portrayed as the one who was the adulterer, but Lord Louis himself alluded they both hopped from bed to bed with various partners. So he wasn't a true innocent, in fact, he was quite a ladies man.
Edwina's wealth certainly helped the Mountbattens as has been written, she wasn't the first wealthy bride to bail out a money poor Royal/Noble family.
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