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Old 11-05-2019, 05:25 PM
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I was most impressed at Anne being above Charles in terms of popularity and how little her negative scores are compared to many other royals.
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Old 11-05-2019, 05:35 PM
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I agree it was strange not to see Camilla mentioned - even if they were doing that based on the fact she married into the family, they'd then have to leave Catherine, Meghan, etc out of the poll and that wouldn't give the most accurate results.

Nice to see Anne has had a popularity boost too, especially since she's one of the lesser known of HM's children to the general public.
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Old 11-05-2019, 05:38 PM
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I was most impressed at Anne being above Charles in terms of popularity and how little her negative scores are compared to many other royals.
If you add up the two positive scores - positive and quite positive they are both on 44% three above Meghan with only Edward and Andrew lower than these three. In other words Charles and Anne are equally the fourth least popular.

If the Queen looks at these figures I am sure she would be disappointed that four of the least five members of the family are her children.
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Old 11-05-2019, 06:19 PM
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Princess Anne is very widely respected for all her charity work. So is the Countess of Wessex, who is very popular and never causes any trouble. The only person who's really out of favour at the moment is Prince Andrew, because of all the Jeffrey Epstein stuff.
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Old 11-05-2019, 06:37 PM
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Added prince Philip and simplified it to positive vs negative:

Based on positive
  1. HM The Queen - 73% positive / 10% negative
  2. William - 71% positive / 9% negative
  3. Catherine - 66% positive / 9% negative
  4. Harry - 57% positive / 18% negative
  5. Anne - 44% positive / 12% negative
  6. Charles - 44% positive / 22% negative
  7. Meghan - 41% positive / 29% negative
  8. Philip - 40% positive / 24% negative
  9. Edward - 22% positive / 21% negative
  10. Andrew - 16% positive / 47% negative

Based on negative (with most negative at the end)
  1. William - 71% positive / 9% negative
  2. Catherine - 66% positive / 9% negative
  3. HM The Queen - 73% positive / 10% negative
  4. Anne - 44% positive / 12% negative
  5. Harry - 57% positive / 18% negative
  6. Edward - 22% positive / 21% negative
  7. Charles - 44% positive / 22% negative
  8. Philip - 40% positive / 24% negative
  9. Meghan - 41% positive / 29% negative
  10. Andrew - 16% positive / 47% negative

How could they forget about Camilla? And Sophie should have been included as well. Although I expect she would have a relatively high number of 'in between' or 'I don't know's, just like her husband.

And it's clear that the queen, William and Catherine are in their own league with 65% + positive and 10% or less negative. And Andrew is in his own league as well on the other end.
Made one more list: positive - negative. You could look at it as their approval rating.
  1. HM The Queen - 73% positive / 10% negative = 63
  2. William - 71% positive / 9% negative = 62
  3. Catherine - 66% positive / 9% negative = 57
  4. Harry - 57% positive / 18% negative = 39
  5. Anne - 44% positive / 12% negative = 32
  6. Charles - 44% positive / 22% negative = 22
  7. Philip - 40% positive / 24% negative = 16
  8. Meghan - 41% positive / 29% negative = 12
  9. Edward - 22% positive / 21% negative = 1
  10. Andrew - 16% positive / 47% negative = -31
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Old 11-05-2019, 06:41 PM
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In fairness they've only included the Queen, her husband, children, grandsons and grand-daughters-in-law so I'm sure who ever was seen as "least popular" would upset her. That said Edward and Anne have pretty small "unpopular" figures, most have just gone for "no strong feeling" which given how little media coverage these royals get is no surprise really. Its only really Andrew who has what I would see as bad scores. Out of the senior royals Charles and Meghan stand out with lower scores than the others. Thats just IMO.

My point in comparing Charles and Anne was that he does much more high profile things and appears to get much more media coverage than Anne yet still scores the same. If you wanted to look at it in terms of "value for money" you could argue Anne outdoes him getting the same scores with less resources, coverage etc. That said I think she trades on a good reputation that goes before her.
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Old 11-05-2019, 06:43 PM
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Interesting new poll from Public First:

http://www.publicfirst.co.uk/wp-cont...1/PF_Royal.pdf

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Which way would be the best way for country for senior royals to spend their time (pick up to three)

Promoting charities in the UK 53%
Recognising efforts of local 44%
Promoting British business overseas 37%
Promoting union of Eng,Scot, Wales & NI 31%
Visiting hospitals 24%
Campaigning on whatever personal causes 17%
matter to them
and on and on....
It surprises me that 31% of the public is seeking to have senior royals intervene for a highly political cause, which would represent a direct challenge to the aim (Scottish independence) of one of the major political parties.

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Members of the RF should keep away from anything controversial so as not to divide the country 50%
Members of the RF should prioritise the promotion of social causes they believe in, even if a lot of people have different views 36%
I would be interested in seeing these figures broken down into respondents who believe the Royal Family agrees with the respondent's own views on divisive causes, compared with respondents who believe the Royal Family disagrees with the respondent's own views on divisive causes. I have suspicions that some percentage of the public would be pleased to have the Royal Family promote divisive views with which they themselves agree – while standing against having the same Royal Family promote divisive views with which they disagree.
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Old 11-05-2019, 07:02 PM
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Added prince Philip and simplified it to positive vs negative:

Based on positive
  1. HM The Queen - 73% positive / 10% negative
  2. William - 71% positive / 9% negative
  3. Catherine - 66% positive / 9% negative
  4. Harry - 57% positive / 18% negative
  5. Anne - 44% positive / 12% negative
  6. Charles - 44% positive / 22% negative
  7. Meghan - 41% positive / 29% negative
  8. Philip - 40% positive / 24% negative
  9. Edward - 22% positive / 21% negative
  10. Andrew - 16% positive / 47% negative

Based on negative (with most negative at the end)
  1. William - 71% positive / 9% negative
  2. Catherine - 66% positive / 9% negative
  3. HM The Queen - 73% positive / 10% negative
  4. Anne - 44% positive / 12% negative
  5. Harry - 57% positive / 18% negative
  6. Edward - 22% positive / 21% negative
  7. Charles - 44% positive / 22% negative
  8. Philip - 40% positive / 24% negative
  9. Meghan - 41% positive / 29% negative
  10. Andrew - 16% positive / 47% negative

How could they forget about Camilla? And Sophie should have been included as well. Although I expect she would have a relatively high number of 'in between' or 'I don't know's, just like her husband.

And it's clear that the queen, William and Catherine are in their own league with 65% + positive and 10% or less negative. And Andrew is in his own league as well on the other end.
Camilla and Sophie should have been included in this research. I do not understand why they were not included.
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Old 11-05-2019, 08:20 PM
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I would be interested in seeing these figures broken down into respondents who believe the Royal Family agrees with the respondent's own views on divisive causes, compared with respondents who believe the Royal Family disagrees with the respondent's own views on divisive causes. I have suspicions that some percentage of the public would be pleased to have the Royal Family promote divisive views with which they themselves agree – while standing against having the same Royal Family promote divisive views with which they disagree.
The data is quite detailed being provided for gender, geographical area, social status, stance on Brexit and political leaning; so while they didn't ask whether they 'agree' with the perceived view of the BRF on divisive causes, that might give you the insight you are looking for.
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Old 11-06-2019, 10:18 AM
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Camilla is the next Queen consort. She should have been included in these polls.
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Old 11-06-2019, 10:38 AM
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It's very odd to me that as detailed as the data is in one sense, that two important members of the royal family were omitted. I wonder what the decision making process around that was?
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Old 11-06-2019, 04:15 PM
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The data is quite detailed being provided for gender, geographical area, social status, stance on Brexit and political leaning; so while they didn't ask whether they 'agree' with the perceived view of the BRF on divisive causes, that might give you the insight you are looking for.
The details provided are informational, I agree, but unfortunately I lack the necessary knowledge about the public's perceptions of the British Royal Family's views to make an educated guess about, for example, the percentage of SNP voters who perceive the BRF as sharing/not sharing their views on divisive causes.
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Old 07-20-2020, 10:43 AM
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Prince Harry seen as liability in yougov poll.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-new...archy-22383335
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Old 07-21-2020, 03:33 AM
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Prince Harry seen as liability in yougov poll.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-new...archy-22383335
The above was presented as being a completely independent YouGov poll as previous results from years ago from that polling company were in the original article, making it seem as if these latest results were from that company. However, this latest one was a poll set up by the Sun tabloid newspaper, using God knows what methodology to get the results they required.
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Old 07-22-2020, 11:51 AM
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The above was presented as being a completely independent YouGov poll as previous results from years ago from that polling company were in the original article, making it seem as if these latest results were from that company. However, this latest one was a poll set up by the Sun tabloid newspaper, using God knows what methodology to get the results they required.
The full report from YouGov's website may be viewed here. It indeed presents the figures from 2012 side-by-side for comparison, so presumably YouGov considers the methodology in the two polls to be sufficiently similar.

https://docs.cdn.yougov.com/wte7yyb3...lts_200716.pdf
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Old 07-22-2020, 02:39 PM
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The full report from YouGov's website may be viewed here. It indeed presents the figures from 2012 side-by-side for comparison, so presumably YouGov considers the methodology in the two polls to be sufficiently similar.

https://docs.cdn.yougov.com/wte7yyb3...lts_200716.pdf



It's an interesting poll - not just the Harry and Meghan parts. Though I hadn't realized Meghan rated so low on these polls.
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Old 07-22-2020, 03:22 PM
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It's an interesting poll - not just the Harry and Meghan parts. Though I hadn't realized Meghan rated so low on these polls.

The most significant result in the poll is how Prince Harry's rating plummeted compared tp the 2012 survey. And how Meghan is seen as a liability by more than 50 % of the respondents. Only Andrew does worse than the Sussexes (seen as liability by 80 % of the respondents).


Camilla still has relatively low ratings too, but not nearly as bad as the aforementioned and her numbers have improved quite significantly since 2012. The Queen's, Prince William's and Kate's favorability ratings also fell slightly, but they still have very high ratings (low 80s or upper 70s).



Based on that poll, I believe the Sussexes are right to base their business in North America. There may not be much of a market for them in the UK after all.
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Old 07-22-2020, 03:50 PM
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I really don't know what people's problem with Camilla is. Are people still so obsessed with Diana? Camilla had an extra-marital affair. She's hardly the only person in the world to have done that, and it was 30 years ago. She hasn't put a foot wrong since she married Charles, and she works so hard with her osteoporosis charities and domestic violence charities and other causes.


People are so fed up with Harry and Meghan that I think they've burnt their bridges here.
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Old 07-22-2020, 04:15 PM
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The full report from YouGov's website may be viewed here. It indeed presents the figures from 2012 side-by-side for comparison, so presumably YouGov considers the methodology in the two polls to be sufficiently similar.

https://docs.cdn.yougov.com/wte7yyb3...lts_200716.pdf
Interesting results; especially if you look at the break-up into different categories. It seems Harry and Meghan truly appeal to a different group, they score relatively well among the groups that typically rate the most senior royal family members (excluding Andrew as everybody agrees that he is a liability) lower; for example:
- Labour scores consistently lowest for 'asset' for all other members compared to Conservatives and Lib Dem; but are relatively more in favour of Harry & Meghan.
- 18-24 year olds score consistently lower than other age group (each subsequent age group considering the members more of an asset than the previous ones); except for Harry and Meghan where the opposite pattern is visible (although the queen, William and Catherine still are considered more of an asset by this age group).
- If regional patterns can be discerned it's typically London that scores the royals slightly lower; again, except for Harry and Meghan who score slightly higher in London than in other regions.
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What some of the poll does illustrate is the lack of a consensus on certain contemporary issues. There is a lot of division.

Proof positive if needed that members of the royal family must remain as uncontroversial as possible if they are to be a force for unity & stability.
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