State Visit from the President of the United States: June 3-5, 2019 - Page 2

Mbruno · #21 04-23-2019, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by jacqui24

Meghan likely won't attend. Unlikely due to her personal feelings towards the person, rather she would've had the baby just about a month or so before this. As many have noted members of the royal family carries out their duty regardless of personal feelings towards the individual, I'm not sure why people would think the Duchess of Sussex isn't capable of sitting through an official function with someone she disagrees with.

On another note, I didn't know UK had a Her Royal Majesty. Whoever is in charge of protocol at the WH should be fired.

I guess that Kennedy scene in The Crown was based on a true story after all.

Moonmaiden23 · #22 04-23-2019, 10:27 AM

If it was, it wasn't a gaffe JFK or Jackie would ever have made.He was the son of the former Ambassador to the Court of St. James and surely knew how to address a British monarch.

She was a First Lady whose sophistication and elegance are emulated up to the present day.

My guess is that producers of The Crown decided to have some fun with the stereotype of the gauche, clueless Yankee.

Our current president is a perfect example.

jacqui24 · #23 04-23-2019, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Mbruno

I guess that Kennedy scene in The Crown was based on a true story after all.

Maybe that's what the person in charge of protocol at the current WH used as a reference?

Moonmaiden23 · #24 04-23-2019, 10:41 AM

I mean...he does have "the best people" working at the WH so you might be on to something.

Genius!!

Curryong · #25 04-23-2019, 10:42 AM

Yes, he/she was watching that episode and typing at the same time.
I hope Meghan can attend. Love the bling of a State Banquet. Harry will probably be there anyway.

Osipi · #26 04-23-2019, 05:20 PM

I remember vividly seeing someone from the Daily Fail write an article where it stated "Her Royal Highness, The Queen". Perhaps the WH asked the Fail for proper forms of address?

Although sometimes it seems that President Trump is like a bull in a china shop, I expect this state visit to go off with all the pomp and circumstance and everyone being on their best behavior. We have to remember that is is not a state visit by President Trump to Queen Elizabeth II but in reality its a state visit by the United States of America to the United Kingdom.

If there's any area where two people would be far apart on an issue, it would be Donald Trump and The Prince of Wales. Being a staunch supporter of the environment and sustaining resources, it would be Charles but even he isn't over the top as to suggest that we eliminate planes, trains, cows and steel and cement structures. There's a middle ground.

Looking forward to this state visit. It will definitely be interesting.

Pranter · #27 04-23-2019, 05:51 PM

I hear they will announce later next month which Royals will be attending.

I do expect all the senior Royals to be there unless there is a legitimate engagement conflict.

Regardless of their personal feelings about the president ...if they can meet with mass murders, Royalty from countries that barely recognize women as human beings, execute (barbarically) gay men/women, and countries with human rights violations a mile long...they can get thru a dinner with Trump.

I can't wait to see the tiaras and gowns!

LaRae

Mirabel · #28 04-24-2019, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Pranter

I hear they will announce later next month which Royals will be attending.

I do expect all the senior Royals to be there unless there is a legitimate engagement conflict.

Regardless of their personal feelings about the president ...if they can meet with mass murders, Royalty from countries that barely recognize women as human beings, execute (barbarically) gay men/women, and countries with human rights violations a mile long...they can get thru a dinner with Trump.

I can't wait to see the tiaras and gowns!

LaRae

I read that Charles and Camilla have confirmed their attendance.

And I am wondering if Melania Trump will wear a tiara? I don't even know if she owns one, but I suppose if not she can borrow.

Are tiaras mandatory at state banquets, or just optional?

Pranter · #29 04-24-2019, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Mirabel

I read that Charles and Camilla have confirmed their attendance.

And I am wondering if Melania Trump will wear a tiara? I don't even know if she owns one, but I suppose if not she can borrow.

Are tiaras mandatory at state banquets, or just optional?

I don't think Melania will wear a tiara...it's not the custom in the U.S. except at weddings and debutante type events (and those are more rare now days).

I have never heard they are mandatory however the BRF ladies usually wear them...but not always. Beatrice and Eugenie attended a state dinner a year or two ago and neither wore one.

I haven't seen anything so far about C&C confirming ...but yes I would expect all of them to be there unless there's such a conflict of schedules they can't make it.

LaRae

muriel · #30 04-24-2019, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Mirabel

I read that Charles and Camilla have confirmed their attendance.

And I am wondering if Melania Trump will wear a tiara? I don't even know if she owns one, but I suppose if not she can borrow.

Are tiaras mandatory at state banquets, or just optional?

I have no doubt senior members of the BRF will be present: The Queen, C&C, W&C, Harry, Anne, Andrew, Edward and then the Queen's cousins.

Tiara's are not mandatory, but worn by those that have them. The First Ladies of most republics usually do not wear tiaras.

Rudolph · #31 04-24-2019, 07:31 AM

There's a saying in the military, you salute the rank, not the individual.

Same goes for a state visit. The democratically elected president of the UK's greatest ally should get the royal treatment.

The Sultan of Brunei can walk through London with his head held high and he stones people to death, yet people get in a tizzy over Trump.

Let's keep the politics out of the thread so it doesn't get locked.

Osipi · #32 04-24-2019, 07:33 AM

I expect Melania to be dressed beautifully for the state banquet but I do not expect her to wear a tiara. Its not something that is commonplace these days in American formal wear as much as it is in British white tie affairs.

In fact, I would think it quite odd if Melania were to dress up in a lot of bling with a tiara. It just doesn't seem to suit her style. When it comes to jewelry, it seems that what she wears is more along the lines of Meghan's and is discreet and minimalistic yet stunning and never overpowering.

That's my take on it at least. I could be wrong and she'll drip in diamonds worthy of competing with the Cullinan pieces in the royal vault.

hana · #33 04-24-2019, 07:41 AM

I'm sure melania has a very expensive jewel collection , hope she use somme in this visit

Pranter · #34 04-24-2019, 07:54 AM

https://fortrove.com/blogs/news/mela...-to-first-lady

http://www.stylebistro.com/Melania+Trump/Jewelry

Example of some of the jewelry Melania has worn.

LaRae

Tarlita · #35 04-24-2019, 04:04 PM

Melania wore a large necklace on her wedding day. I haven't found a good photo of it yet, perhaps she could wear that.
Also The Grand Duchess Vladimirs75 carat Emerald is up for auction next month. It is now set in a substantial diamond necklace.
It has a provenance dating back to Catherine The Great and was once owned by JD Rockefella jnr. So there is an American provenance to it. Estimate is between $2 - 3.5 million. This emerald being such a historic piece will always be an investment piece.
You can see it over on royal jewels of the world message board. Or rjwmb for short.

Hans-Rickard · #36 04-24-2019, 04:53 PM

I expect The Queen, Charles and Camilla, William and Catherine, Harry, Andrew, Edward and Sofie, Anne and Tim to be present. Likely also The Duke and Duchess of Gloucester unless they have engagements far from London.
And i'm sure Princess Michael of Kent don't want to miss this :-D

Mirabel · #37 04-25-2019, 07:49 AM

I am expecting some serious bling for this state banquet!

But as I've said before, I really hope we get to see some pieces from the vault that haven't surfaced in years.

If Eugenie attends, perhaps she'll wear that lovely tiara she wore for her wedding.

Curbside · #38 04-25-2019, 08:16 AM

I hope Meghan can make it. I'd love to see her cupcaked up and bejeweled.

Probably most of us have had to sit down with people we do not like for the sake of appearances. I'm sure Meghan could get through a state dinner without incident and keep her shade-throwing skills in check.

Dear Leader will probably gush on Twitter about getting the royal treatment.

Moonmaiden23 · #39 04-25-2019, 09:26 AM

Since Buckingham Palace has announced that Trump will NOT be invited to stay in the Belgian Suite as per previous US presidents due to "renovation work", where will he be bunking?

The U.S. Ambassador's residence?

muriel · #40 04-25-2019, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Moonmaiden23

Since Buckingham Palace has announced that Trump will NOT be invited to stay in the Belgian Suite as per previous US presidents due to "renovation work", where will he be bunking?

The U.S. Ambassador's residence?

That's right. The President will probably stay at Winfield House, the home of the US Ambassador.