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Old 05-27-2015, 04:23 PM
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Queen doesn't really promise anything in that speech. It's not her words but the UK government of the day.


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Old 05-27-2015, 04:44 PM
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The should read 'The British government promised...'

The Queen has absolutely no input into this speech. The government writes the speech and The Queen has no choice but to read out what she is told to read.
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Old 05-27-2015, 07:11 PM
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It's so kind of the daily fail to think of the Queen.

No wonder one looks weary: The Queen faces stifling heat in 15lb of velvet and 2.5lb crown as she opens Parliament for 62nd time... and chivalrous Philip offers a helping hand | Daily Mail Online

She looks great.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/...2765368106.jpg
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Old 05-27-2015, 07:44 PM
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Thought both Her Majesty and the Duke looked really great today. Didn't really get a good look at Charles and/or Camilla, but will check out the various links later. Dad brought home one nasty buggie boo from Dialysis last week and was kind enough to share w/Mom and I. To say the last three days have been horrid is an understatement, but I check out stuff online for a wee bit, then go back to bed for a little bit and then do a wee bit and...I'm getting close to needing the bed for a bit, so...Yeah.

All in all though....Gorgeous day and no runaway horses or fainting Page boys makes for a great State Opening of Parliament IMO.

BTW....If anyone has the chance to watch the part of the series Monarchy : The Royal Family At Work that focuses on the work and preparation that goes into pulling off a flawless State Opening of Parliament, do!! It's available from iTunes and I found fascinating. We also get to see what the Sword of State looks like out of its scabbard and the etching and engraving on the blade is just stunningly gorgeous!!


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Old 05-27-2015, 08:43 PM
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The Queen appeared at the State Opening of Parliament wearing a white lace gown. She was assisted up and down steps by Prince Philip. That crown must be incredibly heavy and more so in this heat. Camilla looked great as well.

The Queen attends Parliament state opening - hellomagazine.com
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Old 05-28-2015, 12:38 AM
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Did anyone else hear the Queen sniffling several times during the speech? I wondered if she had a cold, and how uncomfortable it must be to have to go up there and give a speech without being able to discreetly wipe one's nose!
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Old 05-28-2015, 05:01 AM
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As long as the parliament is comprised of the House of Commons, the House of Lords, and the Crown, it is appropriate for the Queen to refer to "my government" when outlining the legislative program of the new parliamentary session. That she did not write the speech is neither here nor there, it is the symbolism that is important. It is a reminder that governments of the day come and go, but the sovereignty of the Crown in Parliament is permanent, the Queen is the living embodiment of that sovereignty, and it is she the government has sworn to serve. Interestingly, at their most recent parliamentary openings, the Governor-General of Australia says "my government", the Governor-General of New Zealand says "the government", and the Governor General of Canada says "our government".
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Old 05-28-2015, 06:46 AM
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Did anyone else hear the Queen sniffling several times during the speech? I wondered if she had a cold, and how uncomfortable it must be to have to go up there and give a speech without being able to discreetly wipe one's nose!
I did, she's been doing that a lot lately.
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Old 05-28-2015, 01:23 PM
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This is ridiculous, and I should like to have known more about these sources he refers to.

Camilla would have preferred to miss the Queen's Speech by EPHRAIM HARDCASTLE | Daily Mail Online
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Old 05-28-2015, 01:47 PM
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This is ridiculous, and I should like to have known more about these sources he refers to.

Camilla would have preferred to miss the Queen's Speech by EPHRAIM HARDCASTLE | Daily Mail Online
Although Camilla takes her time getting in and out of the carriage and seems a bit unsteady when doing it, it's hardly a reason not to want to go. I'm also not sure whether the Queen would have asked William to attend the State Opening of Parliament.
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Old 05-28-2015, 03:35 PM
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Although Camilla takes her time getting in and out of the carriage and seems a bit unsteady when doing it, it's hardly a reason not to want to go. I'm also not sure whether the Queen would have asked William to attend the State Opening of Parliament.
Really the Queen wanted William and Charles and Camilla were last minute replacement.

The DM should give it up. Their obsession with William is getting out of hand.

Camilla has a new outfit specially made for the State Opening of Parliament and yet the DM thinks...sorry most of the DM staff doesn't think.

Camilla may have depth perception problems with her vision as she is always hesitant around most steps.
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Old 05-28-2015, 03:42 PM
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With the way the Daily Mail has been on getting just about everything wrong, I'm surprised they were able to even spell Camilla's name right.

My thoughts were that with the history of back problems that Camilla has, it might be tricky getting in and out of the carriage. I know when my back acts up, simple things like getting out of the carriage are very uncomfortable.
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Old 05-28-2015, 03:58 PM
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With the way the Daily Mail has been on getting just about everything wrong, I'm surprised they were able to even spell Camilla's name right.

My thoughts were that with the history of back problems that Camilla has, it might be tricky getting in and out of the carriage. I know when my back acts up, simple things like getting out of the carriage are very uncomfortable.
I agree. My mum has back problems so we can't have cars that are either high or low or she wont get in. Same, a house without stair is the only way for her. So I can really see how Camilla can have trouble getting out of that carriage.
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Old 05-28-2015, 04:06 PM
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Typical the DM (Daily Mess) to find the most idiotic opportunity to make up stories.
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Old 05-28-2015, 04:25 PM
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Although Camilla takes her time getting in and out of the carriage and seems a bit unsteady when doing it, it's hardly a reason not to want to go. I'm also not sure whether the Queen would have asked William to attend the State Opening of Parliament.
I'm sure William and Catherine would go if The Queen asked. I would find it right and beautiful to have the two most senior heirs attending the State Opening, along with their spouses.

I'm not sure Camilla would skip out on the event just because it's a bit tricky to enter and exit the carriages. If it ever was a problem for her, they could take a State Car. A little less regal, but yet still grand.
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Okay so because Camilla was hesitant getting out a coach/carriage in a long gown she didn't want to be there?

Couldn't is possibly be that wearing a long gown, high heels and having two very small steps to navigate down on a carriage that moves when you do requires a bit of thought and is best approached slowly and carefully?

To be fair the same DM article says David Cameron and Harriet Harman didn't chat whilst they walked to the House of Lords, take a look at the video of the event above, you can clearly see them talking as they leave the House of Commons chamber.
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Old 05-28-2015, 05:09 PM
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Okay so because Camilla was hesitant getting out a coach/carriage in a long gown she didn't want to be there?

Couldn't is possibly be that wearing a long gown, high heels and having two very small steps to navigate down on a carriage that moves when you do requires a bit of thought and is best approached slowly and carefully?

To be fair the same DM article says David Cameron and Harriet Harman didn't chat whilst they walked to the House of Lords, take a look at the video of the event above, you can clearly see them talking as they leave the House of Commons chamber.

Truthfully, I've always wondered how the Victorian ladies managed those things in those skirts.


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Old 05-28-2015, 05:47 PM
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Although Camilla takes her time getting in and out of the carriage and seems a bit unsteady when doing it, it's hardly a reason not to want to go. I'm also not sure whether the Queen would have asked William to attend the State Opening of Parliament.
There's no way to tell if the DM story is true or not, but, to be fair, the Queen often sends mixed signals on who she would personally prefer to succeed her, i.e. her son or grandson. I wouldn't find it at all surprising if she wanted William to attend the State Opening of Parliament instead of Charles. The only reason why I think the story might not be true is that, if William had indeed been summoned by the Queen to attend, he probably could not have declined the invitation.
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Old 05-28-2015, 06:00 PM
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There's no way to tell if the DM story is true or not, but, to be fair, the Queen often sends mixed signals on who she would personally prefer to succeed her, i.e. her son or grandson. I wouldn't find it at all surprising if she wanted William to attend the State Opening of Parliament instead of Charles. The only reason why I think the story might not be true is that, if William had indeed been summoned by the Queen to attend, he probably could not have declined the invitation.
I don't think she sends any mixed signals. She knows what the order of succession is and she knows that in the UK choice doesn't come into it. Unless he predeceases her, Charles will be the next King.

Really the Charles and Camilla haters should give it up. Charles will be the next King and William will just have to wait his turn.
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Old 05-28-2015, 06:23 PM
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I don't think she sends any mixed signals. She knows what the order of succession is and she knows that in the UK choice doesn't come into it. Unless he predeceases her, Charles will be the next King.

Really the Charles and Camilla haters should give it up. Charles will be the next King and William will just have to wait his turn.

The fact that Charles is the heir according to law (and the Queen can't do anything about it) does not necessarily preclude her from having a personal preference on who should be the next sovereign.

A similar situation happens in Sweden, where Victoria is the heir by law and King Carl Gustaf acknowledges it, but he would still personally prefer his son, Carl Philip, to be the heir instead. The difference is that CG doesn't really hide his feelings on that issue, whereas, as I wrote before, Queen Elizabeth II often sends "mixed signals". Personally, I don't see her as being very close to Charles, much less his wife.
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