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Old 06-28-2013, 05:03 PM
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Just once I would like to see a newspaper explain that none of this is considered a salary for the monarch and that it is in fact a budget amount for the official expenses of the monarchy......just like any other government department has a budget for each year except that in the case of the monarchy the money does not come from direct taxation.
But government departments are not getting increases - that's the problem. Like it or loathe it, we are a welfare state and it is being cut back and cut back again; the public sector are not getting pay rises and on it goes.

There are some negative comments across the media about HMQ - and that hasn't happened in quite a while.

And what has really got me riled today is how little the press have covered PoWs costs when his costs from the public purse have gone down by 48% and his charities have generated £139m.

Really biased reporting.
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Old 06-28-2013, 05:07 PM
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But government departments are not getting increases - that's the problem. Like it or loathe it, we are a welfare state and it is being cut back and cut back again; the public sector are not getting pay rises and on it goes.

There are some negative comments across the media about HMQ - and that hasn't happened in quite a while.

And what has really got me riled today is how little the press have covered PoWs costs when his costs from the public purse have gone down by 48% and his charities have generated £139m.

Really biased reporting.
Daily Mail and the Telegraph have Charles related articles, they're not 'glowing' only skimmed them but they are there. Nothing positive is every going to be said when it involves money and the royals. The headlines will always be The Queen gets a pay rise, Charles spends this etc!
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Just once I would like to see a newspaper explain that none of this is considered a salary for the monarch and that it is in fact a budget amount for the official expenses of the monarchy......just like any other government department has a budget for each year except that in the case of the monarchy the money does not come from direct taxation.
I Agree. Some Republicans on anti-monarchy pages (which i don't like or comment on as I don't want to waste my time with them but I still read for a good laughs) Don't seem to understand that or don't get it at all. Some think It mean the Queen is getting a salary raise for just her own personal good and use which is not true. Maybe if the paper explained things much mire accurately. They don't seem to ever list the cost of maintaing the PM and his travel, entertainment, etc.
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Old 06-28-2013, 05:35 PM
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I would prefer to see the government establish a 'Department of the Head of State' to handle the money matters of the monarch and then it would be clear that The Queen doesn't get paid a salary to do her job.
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Old 06-28-2013, 09:39 PM
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I would prefer to see the government establish a 'Department of the Head of State' to handle the money matters of the monarch and then it would be clear that The Queen doesn't get paid a salary to do her job.
I somewhat understands that the Queen doesn't get paid by the government. Instead the income from the Crown Estate goes to pay for the expenses of being head of state. Does this include travel cost, palace maintenance (of Buck, Clarence, Kensington, Windsor), household costs (like the staff), and entertainment costs (such as state visits, garden parties, and other events). So the Queen doesn't get any money from the civil list/sovereign grant as a salary for being the head of state?
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Old 06-28-2013, 11:10 PM
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Prince Charles paid £1m a year to support Prince William and Harry in official duties:
Prince Charles paid £1m a year to support Prince William and Harry in official duties | Royal | News | Daily Express
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Old 06-29-2013, 01:50 AM
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...So the Queen doesn't get any money from the civil list/sovereign grant as a salary for being the head of state?
Correct, there is no salary for being head of state. The old Civil List and now the 15% from the Crown Estate are meant to cover the official expenses of the head of state but not the personal expenses and all expenses must be accounted for.
The Queens private income is from the Duchy of Lancaster which she may use as she sees fit.
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Old 06-29-2013, 04:03 AM
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That is correct - but unfortunately many people don't understand this and think the money she gets is hers for her own amusement when it is to cover the costs of being Head of State. If Britain became a republic they would still have these costs for their Head of State and the excuse that the palaces would be open more often doesn't hold up when you realise that a President would still need a place to live.
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Old 06-29-2013, 04:16 AM
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Duchy of Lancaster/Cornwall



If Britain became a republic - would the capital/income/assets of the 2 Duchies revert to the State or be granted to the "retiring" royal family?

I apprecaite that there may not be a definitive answer, so informed views would be helpful.
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Old 06-29-2013, 04:29 AM
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I would assume that the Duchy of Lancaster estate would become the private income of the new President, in lieu of a salary and the Duchy of Cornwall the income of the Vice-President - or something along those lines. Of course it could revert to the state. The private property of the royals - e.g. Balmoral and Sandringham would remain the property of the royals.
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Old 06-29-2013, 04:35 AM
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I would have thought that the president/vice president (bearing in mind they are non-political heads of state) would get a salary and the state would be responsible for maintaining the buildings used.

I think that the state would grab the Duchies.

Obviously the Queen has other income, over and above Duchy and Sovereign Grant. Any idea how much it is?
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Old 06-29-2013, 06:56 AM
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I would prefer to see the government establish a 'Department of the Head of State' to handle the money matters of the monarch and then it would be clear that The Queen doesn't get paid a salary to do her job.
Iluvbertie, how much ever is done, is not good enough for people to understand the truth. They have fixed RF as a cushion to vent out their frustations. BTW this "HoS Department" will only make matters worse, like IHA of Japan, increasing beauracratic interference in the RF..
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Old 06-29-2013, 08:13 AM
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It would separate the money from the RF however and make it clearer that in fact the British people get a very good deal - no salary to their Head of State but all the other benefits - they have a Head of State who is self-supporting which, if a republic, they won't have.
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Old 06-29-2013, 08:47 AM
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That would be accurate reporting, and newspapers don't do that over her.
They don't do that in the U.S. either
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Old 06-29-2013, 08:57 AM
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The British people could never find a president so committed to the people or that has the global popularity to generate the income of the Queen and the Royal Family.
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Old 06-29-2013, 10:19 AM
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They also fail to mention that the civil list amount was static for about 20 years. I doubt very much that could be said for many other government departments.
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Old 06-29-2013, 08:22 PM
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The payments now are, in relative terms, much lower than they were in 1980 as there was a complete hold no any rises for most of Labour's time in power and it had been eroding in real terms before that.
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To those who are unfamiliar with the Royal family, the finances must be somewhat confusing.
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