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Old 06-16-2020, 07:45 PM
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Are they indeed? I’d like to see some sources of this information as it’s well the royal family aren’t truthfully “cash rich”.
Well they better learn to live within their means then- like the rest of the world. We don’t want to pay for their extended vacations.
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Old 06-16-2020, 10:11 PM
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Who is supplying the sussex's security now that they are in the US? Trump said the government wouldn't pay for it so are the British taxpayers?
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Old 06-16-2020, 10:50 PM
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My understanding is since mid March they've had private security.


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Old 06-16-2020, 10:57 PM
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That's my understanding too. There is no way that the Sussexes, as private citizens, can dump security costs on anyone else besides themselves. I would have thought that they'd realize this as part and parcel of being "private citizens" and that there is no such thing as a free lunch.

I don't believe though that we know who is providing security or the costs as that isn't something that should be in the public domain. In fact, discussing their security actually isn't on topic for this thread as its not "Royal Security" anymore.
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Old 06-17-2020, 12:27 AM
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I don't believe though that we know who is providing security or the costs as that isn't something that should be in the public domain. In fact, discussing their security actually isn't on topic for this thread as its not "Royal Security" anymore.



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Old 06-17-2020, 03:23 AM
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That's my understanding too. There is no way that the Sussexes, as private citizens, can dump security costs on anyone else besides themselves. I would have thought that they'd realize this as part and parcel of being "private citizens" and that there is no such thing as a free lunch.

I don't believe though that we know who is providing security or the costs as that isn't something that should be in the public domain. In fact, discussing their security actually isn't on topic for this thread as its not "Royal Security" anymore.
I think it’s fairly easy to guess who is paying for the security cost (Prince Charles- question is of course from which account - duchy or other), since neither Harry and especially not Meghan, with her meager million or two, can afford private security- which can cost a cool million a year, at least!
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Old 06-17-2020, 03:24 AM
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This was a big part of it. Justin Trudeau tried to fanboy by trying to get the Canadian Taxpayers to foot the bill for security for the long term, but backed down when his position proved extremely unpopular (and damaging to him and his party).

As a Canadian, I want, no I demand, that Canada be reimbursed for security costs for their time in Canada. They were on a private "vacation" from late last year and were in no way invited by the Canadian Govt or people to stay in Canada. They did not perform any significant representative functions while there and there is/was no need for the Canadian taxpayer to foot the bill for their whims and follies.
But @Eskimo, you did get H&M visit Canada House in London on 8 January to thank the people of Canada for making them feel so welcome!

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That's my understanding too. There is no way that the Sussexes, as private citizens, can dump security costs on anyone else besides themselves. I would have thought that they'd realize this as part and parcel of being "private citizens" and that there is no such thing as a free lunch.
I could not agree more with you. However, I do not think it was their expectation that their security would need to be privately financed. It was very much part of their "wish list", as published on their website in January this year.


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I don't believe though that we know who is providing security or the costs as that isn't something that should be in the public domain.
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I think it’s fairly easy to guess who is paying for the security cost (Prince Charles- question is of course from which account - duchy or other), since neither Harry and especially not Meghan, with her meager million or two, can afford private security- which can cost a cool million a year, at least!
I have no doubt that it is Prince Charles who is funding their security.

As to which account, Duchy or otherwise, to me it does not matter. The purpose of the Duchy is to provide an independent and private income for the Prince of Wales, it is not only for official duties.
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Old 06-17-2020, 06:36 AM
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Well they better learn to live within their means then- like the rest of the world. We don’t want to pay for their extended vacations.

Who’s we exactly? I don’t understand what you want?

Henry and Meghan have private security with them in the US, paid for presumably by The Prince of Wales from the Duchy of Cornwall income which belongs to the person within that role.

As to the security situation when they were in Canada, at the time they were there they were still working royals, regardless of their announcement in January. The whole period, pre and post “break up” I imagine was covered, discussed and agreed between the Prime Minister of Canada and HM The Queen.

What’s happened, happened. What’s happening now in terms of security is an agreement between the Sussexes and The Prince of Wales.
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Old 06-18-2020, 04:38 PM
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Same circular conversation, who knows for sure.
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Old 11-23-2020, 12:23 PM
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Does anyone know if Anne and Edward's security are paid for by the government due to the location of their homes? If so, does Zara and Mike and children also have the same security since they also live on the property? Does Peter and family also become covered by this blanket type security due to the location of their home? Just curious. If so, that is one darn huge expense and I can actually see why maybe they will want all the royals to be close instead of all over and having to supply separate security groups many miles apart.
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Old 11-23-2020, 02:24 PM
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Does anyone know if Anne and Edward's security are paid for by the government due to the location of their homes? If so, does Zara and Mike and children also have the same security since they also live on the property? Does Peter and family also become covered by this blanket type security due to the location of their home? Just curious. If so, that is one darn huge expense and I can actually see why maybe they will want all the royals to be close instead of all over and having to supply separate security groups many miles apart.
Anne and Edward will be provided security, funded by the taxpayer. Their respective children will not be. Anne's home will be secured, but those of her children will not be, even though they are on the Gatcombe Estate. It is not the same as being at KP or St James' where the Palaces and the homes within are within a ring of security.
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Old 11-23-2020, 02:26 PM
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Anne and Edward will be provided security, funded by the taxpayer. Their respective children will not be. Anne's home will be secured, but those of her children will not be, even though they are on the Gatcombe Estate. It is not the same as being at KP or St James' where the Palaces and the homes within are within a ring of security.
Anne and Edward get tax payer funded security because they are working royals. Even Sophie does not have full time tax payer funded security only when she's working. So if Beatrice needs security, its for her father or herself or husband to pay for it...
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Old 11-23-2020, 02:33 PM
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Anne and Edward get tax payer funded security because they are working royals. Even Sophie does not have full time tax payer funded security only when she's working. So if Beatrice needs security, its for her father or herself or husband to pay for it...
The Home Office determined about a decade ago that the tax payer would not provide security for Beatrice and Eugenie. I do not see that evolve, any security that they have will need to be privately funded.
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Old 11-23-2020, 07:00 PM
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The Home Office determined about a decade ago that the tax payer would not provide security for Beatrice and Eugenie. I do not see that evolve, any security that they have will need to be privately funded.
Yes they lost their security a long time ago.. and IMO its up to Beatrice and her husband who is a millionaire to provide themselves wiht a home and security if they need it..
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Old 11-24-2020, 04:00 AM
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Anne and Edward get tax payer funded security because they are working royals. Even Sophie does not have full time tax payer funded security only when she's working. So if Beatrice needs security, its for her father or herself or husband to pay for it...
I think that Anne and Edward also only get security now when they are out and about on engagements. And only when it is deemed necessary to have security.
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Old 11-24-2020, 05:20 PM
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There were a number of reports over the past year or two that the royals were loosing their "24/7" protection and then there were reports very recently that to save costs a number of senior "protected" persons - Cabinet Ministers and it was hinted Royals - were loosing armed protection in favour of officers with tasers with armed officers called in when necessary. Given that I can't see Anne & Edward's houses getting huge security around them anymore. I know years ago even there was a contract tendering process to guard Bagshot rather than it being done by police full time.

All of these decisions and on who gets protection are made based on threat assessments. If Beatrice and Eugenie were deemed at risk enough to need security they would get it. So if they don't it is because there isn't perceived to be a big enough threat to them for it to be needed. If they want to pay for their own security of course they can but that is likely more convenience rather than actual threat.
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