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Old 12-27-2018, 01:28 PM
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At what point did Frogmore Cottage become a demotion? I haven't been following the "feud" but last I read it was billed as "The Sussex's chose it because they want to get as far away from the Cambridges as possible!" It will be a large house close to where the Queen spends a huge amount of time, in a place they love very close to London.

No doubt there's always ups and downs re roles in the family for everyone and at times they've been envious of each other's position but you can't tell anything from a few videos.


And whilst it may have been much more of an adjustment than Meghan anticipated I'm sure she knew a lot more about Harry's current and intended future positions before she got married than our speculation ever will.
Once they get moved in, I have a feeling that the Sussexes and the Queen will be seeing a lot of each other on the weekends, particularly when the Queen's eighth (is that the correct number?) great grandchild is born.
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Old 12-27-2018, 02:03 PM
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I'm going to predict something with absolute confidence and that is that *any* of the royal family would be extremely happy if their public could focus solely on the work they do and how it pertains to the monarchy rather than worry so much about what their private lives are like.

No one is happy living under a microscope day in and day out where each facial expression, what they wear (or fail to wear) and should they sneeze (or worse), it is heard around the world in an instant and a topic of conversation for the next month.

If given the chance to live the lives that they do, I think its safe to say that after six months, I'd be ready for the booby hatch pleasantly twiddling my thumbs singing "lovely flowers on the wall.... ".
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Old 12-27-2018, 05:48 PM
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There are clips toward the end of the walk that showed Harry/William doing just fine..really folks you can't take a handful of photos from one day and determine anything...you are getting sucked into the media narrative.


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Old 12-27-2018, 08:10 PM
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This whole William not speaking to Meghan is just rubbish it is likely Will did ask Harry are you sure she will be able to cope with royal life. Anyone would talk to their sibling
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Old 12-28-2018, 04:24 AM
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Please note that several posts have been deleted as they were off-topic, added nothing to the conversation or ignored the previous Mod note.

Discussion about Harry and Meghan moving to Frogmore Cottae can take place in the http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums...age-45791.html.
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Old 12-28-2018, 05:27 AM
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This whole William not speaking to Meghan is just rubbish it is likely Will did ask Harry are you sure she will be able to cope with royal life. Anyone would talk to their sibling
Completely agree, hadn't they been going out for a year before getting engaged? If one of my siblings told me they were getting engaged after that amount of time I would ask if they were really sure myself.
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Old 12-28-2018, 05:39 AM
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Exactly! Any close sibling would do the same thing! William knew from experience what Kate went through and most likely warned Harry about the same thing!
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Old 12-28-2018, 06:04 AM
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Harry and Meghan began dating around June 2016. They became engaged in late November 2017. That's about 17/18 months. I've known people have shorter dating times, including those who lived in different countries and conducted long distance romances.

It depends how a sibling questions the romance doesn't it? Some people are not particularly tactful or fair-minded, can dwell on what they see as failings etc, instead of the nicer characteristics of the sibling's girlfriend.

IF it is true (and we don't know if it is) that William questioned Meghan's suitability for the BRF, we don't know how he couched any objections. If I was deeply in love with someone and a sibling started criticisms of that person after a couple of meetings, I'd probably flare up as well.

And not everyone is prepared to wait eight years plus before marriage, especially a couple in their thirties.
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Old 12-28-2018, 06:10 AM
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Harry and Meghan began dating around June 2016. They became engaged in November 2017. That's about 17/18 months. I've known people have shorter dating times, including those who lived in different countries and conducted long distance romances.

It depends how a sibling questions the romance doesn't it? Some people are not particularly tactful or fair-minded, can dwell on what they see as failings etc, instead of the nicer characteristics of the sibling's girlfriend.

IF it is true (and we don't know if it is) that William questioned Meghan's suitability for the BRF, we don't know how he couched any objections. If I was deeply in love with someone and a sibling started criticisms of that person after a couple of meetings, I'd probably flare up as well.

And not everyone is prepared to wait eight years plus before marriage, especially a couple in their thirties.
According to their own time frame they started dating more or less in July and got engaged early November, so 17/18 months is generous. More about 16 months, which is still more than a year... So, I am fine with that although I'd say that in general when dating a prince a bit more time might be required than on average. The extremely long dating periods of some other princes and princesses I find harder to understand. Both if they finally end up married and if afterwards they get married very soon to someone else.
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Old 12-28-2018, 06:31 AM
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Clarence House announced the engagement of Harry and Meghan on the 27th November 2017.
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Old 12-28-2018, 06:41 AM
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If William and Harry are as close as I think they are, I would imagine that as Harry realized more and more that Meghan was "the one" for him, William (and Kate) would have been the very first to know about the relationship and probably the first of Harry's family to be introduced to Meghan. This seems even more plausible to me as we realized that Harry and Meghan spent quite a bit of time together, when they could, at Nottingham Cottage. It would have been quite easy to get together with the Cambridges and in this respect, both William and Kate got to know Meghan directly and not secondhand via Harry. Harry also got the chance then to witness first hand how Meghan gets along with kids.

I, myself, don't see anything that points to William questioning his brother's choice. If anyone could see the change in Harry and just how over the moon happy he was after meeting Meghan, William would have witnessed it in the flesh. I also believe that William would be above putting Meghan's "suitability" for the BRF before Harry's happiness.

Therefore, its my opinion that both William and Kate were the first to warmly welcome Meghan into the family and stand beside Harry and Meghan to guide, to warn, to advise and support them the best they could. William being Harry's "best man" didn't start on the day of the wedding but was a constant along the road to the engagement and then to the marriage and now as the "Fab Four" in the Royal Foundation and will continue on through the decades come what may.

This is what makes sense to me. Of course it doesn't sell to the public that thrives on discord, negativity and "feudin'"
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Old 12-28-2018, 06:42 AM
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Clarence House announced the engagement of Harry and Meghan on the 27th November 2017.
Yes but they got engaged several weeks prior to the announcement.
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Old 12-28-2018, 06:47 AM
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In fairness, I can understand if William had concerns whether Meghan as a 36 year old woman who had lived an independent life could make the transition to a royal lifestyle.

Frankly, I found myself questioning Meghan's sanity to give up SO MUCH to marry Harry! She's the one that has made all of the sacrifices!

If William and Harry are as close as people say they are, then I can see where William may have sat Harry down and had a very frank conversation about whether Meghan could really handle the royal life.
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Old 12-28-2018, 06:49 AM
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I find it difficult to believe that once Harry & Meghan were actually engaged, then married and now a baby coming that William and Harry would still be at odds over Meghan if William had expressed any reservations. William wants Harry to be happy.

No one was hinting at a frostiness Christmas 2017 or gone back to analyze photos of last Christmas for signs of tension. The video/photos of the brothers at the wedding don’t seem to show distance in their relationship.

And remember William did issue a statement of support in November 2016 after Harry’s letter requesting privacy was issued.
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Old 12-28-2018, 06:55 AM
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Their courtship was not a relatively normal courtship either. They both had responsibilities that placed them on different continents. They had to scheme and plot and plan to be together and travel distances to do so. It took a lot of work on both sides to keep a long distance relationship going strong.

When they did spend time together, they made the most of it. They didn't go out partying with friends or attend concerts and the theater and dine out in exclusive restaurants. They stayed home and cooked their own meals and reveled just in the fact that they were together. Many couples dating for much longer don't do this until they're actually married. They weren't just dating, they were testing marriage to each other. They've never had to be in each other's back pockets and were able to maintain their individuality which probably made the time they did spend together even more special.

It may have been a shorter courtship than a lot of other people's but when I look at it, it was a very mature and responsible courtship that had a lot of obstacles to be met and conquered. One cannot say it was a rush, fly-by-night courtship when we look at just how they conducted it.

This is definitely a "you and me against the world" kind of couple. Its that basis that spells success for a marriage.
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Old 12-28-2018, 06:57 AM
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I agree with Osipi's last comment

Also, we all know families have rows, which are usually made up fairly quickly and/or then laughed about. I recall an occasion when the RF were being filmed (the Queen, Queen Mother, Prince Charles & William were present). William referred to some disagreement with his father & then laughed as he said something about it involving "lots of family shouting".

What a weird bunch of robots the BRF would be if they didn't have disagreements & the occasional row. I know we're not supposed to discuss the media here but really, the tabloids make me sick how they try to create feuds & "baddies" out of things they know nothing about.

Unless a BRF family disagreement is so serious as to threaten the family's future, any reportage that blows things up or fabricates stories is just toxic tittle-tattle.
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Old 12-28-2018, 07:15 AM
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In fairness, I can understand if William had concerns whether Meghan as a 36 year old woman who had lived an independent life could make the transition to a royal lifestyle.



I haven't been following all posts in this forum, but where did those stories about William questioning Meghan's suitability come from ? Any factual evidence ?
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Old 12-28-2018, 07:23 AM
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Like all discussions in this thread, it's speculative. So no, I have no factual evidence.
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Old 12-28-2018, 07:35 AM
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Their courtship was not a relatively normal courtship either. They both had responsibilities that placed them on different continents. They had to scheme and plot and plan to be together and travel distances to do so. It took a lot of work on both sides to keep a long distance relationship going strong.

When they did spend time together, they made the most of it. They didn't go out partying with friends or attend concerts and the theater and dine out in exclusive restaurants. They stayed home and cooked their own meals and reveled just in the fact that they were together. Many couples dating for much longer don't do this until they're actually married. They weren't just dating, they were testing marriage to each other. They've never had to be in each other's back pockets and were able to maintain their individuality which probably made the time they did spend together even more special.

It may have been a shorter courtship than a lot of other people's but when I look at it, it was a very mature and responsible courtship that had a lot of obstacles to be met and conquered. One cannot say it was a rush, fly-by-night courtship when we look at just how they conducted it.

This is definitely a "you and me against the world" kind of couple. Its that basis that spells success for a marriage.
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I haven't been following all posts in this forum, but where did those stories about William questioning Meghan's suitability come from ? Any factual evidence ?
I think mostly speculative, trying to come up with ideas to explain this supposed rift between the brothers that is the current story.
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