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I am not comparing Beatrice to William NOW but Willam aged 21 to Beatrice aged 21 and she is streets ahead with the public side of life.
How William went in Australia is irrelevant to a comparison with Beatrice at the age of 21 as he is years older than she is now.
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Let's not get too carried away. I'm pretty sure Beatrice will never see the throne in her lifetime.
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05-13-2010, 03:27 AM
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05-13-2010, 07:33 AM
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What about the hangers-on = advisers etc? Tht is where the true costs are.
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The same number of people could accompany William and Harry, irrespective of whether they went on one flight or two - so I am afaid, IMO, your argument in relation to costs is spurious.
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05-13-2010, 07:33 AM
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Let's not get too carried away. I'm pretty sure Beatrice will never see the throne in her lifetime.
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One would sincerely hope so!
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I am not comparing Beatrice to William NOW but Willam aged 21 to Beatrice aged 21 and she is streets ahead with the public side of life.
How William went in Australia is irrelevant to a comparison with Beatrice at the age of 21 as he is years older than she is now.
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I was just surprised that you questioned his public skills, I really thought that he was good with the press when he needs to, of course, as I know that he is not very fond of them. 
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05-13-2010, 05:48 PM
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I was just surprised that you questioned his public skills, I really thought that he was good with the press when he needs to, of course, as I know that he is not very fond of them. |
His public skills are ok now but at 21 (the age Beatrice is now) they were awful.
She is far better now than what he was then. That is the comparison I am making.
I am not questioning his skills now, which are satisfactory and nothing more, but rather where he was 7 years ago. If she is way better now than he was then the chances are that in 7 years she will still be way better then what he is now.
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05-13-2010, 05:50 PM
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The same number of people could accompany William and Harry, irrespective of whether they went on one flight or two - so I am afaid, IMO, your argument in relation to costs is spurious.
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Not true - if they travel together they will only need one set of advisers for instance with who they are meeting etc on arrival but with travelling separately they will need two sets to tell them separately the background etc on arrival.
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Not true - if they travel together they will only need one set of advisers for instance with who they are meeting etc on arrival but with travelling separately they will need two sets to tell them separately the background etc on arrival.
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Well they share a private secretary so whose he going to fly with?
They have a certain number of staff and security for them don't they?
Why don't you just split that number down the middle and then they can all fly with no extra cost?
I'm sure they should know who they are meeting on the ground, before they set off. Just being taught on the plane is a bit stupid.
Watch them get out of the plane together when they land?
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From the announcement of the trip to Southern Africa we're 4 days and 2 pages in and the discussion has veered off onto 'Beatrice as Queen', arguments over how the support staff should travel (and with whom), and even a mention of Isabel II of Spain (reigned 1833-1868).
It's probably best that we re-open the thread closer to the event.
If there is further news on the visit before it takes place, post it in the Wills or Harry current events threads and the mods will move the posts over.
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Day 1
Prince Harry during a garden party to mark the official birthday of Queen
Elizabeth II on June 14, 2010 in Gabarone, Botswana.
Harry arrived ahead of his older brother William as they will begin a joint
tour of Southern Africa that will see them combine promoting their charity
interests with cheering on England's World Cup football squad.
Looks like a good, professional and still Harry-like  start of the journey!
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Hours after attending the ceremony William jetted out with his bodyguards to Africa, where he is due to embark on his first joint official tour with younger brother, Prince Harry, on Wednesday.
The pair are visiting charity projects in Botswana and Lesotho on behalf of conservationists Tusk Trust and Sentebale, the charity Harry set up in memory of their late mother to help aids orphans.
They will then jet down to Cape Town to watch England's next World Cup match against Algeria on Friday before attending a reception to promote England's bid to hold the tournament in 2018.
Harry is already in Africa following a five-week safari holiday and will carry out a brief solo engagement in Botswana before his brother arrives.
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Day 2
Now both brothers are there!
Prince Harry and Prince William hold an African rock python during a visit
to Mokolodi Education Centre on June 15, 2010 in Gaborone, Botswana.
That first pic of today could be a great "Picture of the Month"! 
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That's for sure iceflower!
OMG you'd never catch me doing that, especially a snake that big!
I wouldn't mind petting a cheetah though. Aww
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Oh gosh, I love a man who isn't afraid of snakes!!!
They look so cute together...funny seeing them with the snake. Will looked a bit hesitant about it though, whereas Harry looked like he could have it for a pet.
I can't believe they're petting the cheetah either. I would have to stay inside on this official trip.
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Day 3
Prince William during a visit to the Coaching for Conservation project in
Maun, Botswana, Wednesday June 16, 2010.
Coaching for Conservation is an innovative conservation project being
run in Botswana, which marries football skills to wildlife protection, and
is run by the Botswana Predator Conservation Trust, which also teaches
youngsters self respect and awareness about the environment around
them.
On pic 3 William is pictured with American singer Joe Jonas, on of the
three Jonas brothers, so there's more popular support around
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