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Old 11-14-2013, 04:50 PM
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If a MAJORITY in the constituent nations of the United Kingdom wish to vote for independence they have the vote.... and parties to vote for.

Therefore they have the capacity to end the tradition of the usage of non English names as titles for members of the reigning family. Currently more than 70% are content with the status quo. There is no need to waste money consulting them. If they are unhappy at the time a decision is made, they will be vocal enough to ensure they are consulted !

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Old 11-14-2013, 05:02 PM
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You are never going to have universal support for anything. There is always going to be people who object to things. I think most people assume William will be made Prince of Wales when Charles is King. The heir to the throne has been created Prince of Wales for centuries. It has the weight of history behind it.

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Old 11-15-2013, 03:25 AM
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Originally Posted by royalistbert View Post
They BRF should NEVER ever have to ask permission to create titles for parts of The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.
If there is severe objection to something, then yes they should. The monarchy is not autocratic you know. Just because they've been chosen by God doesn't mean they can abuse their people. If Wales didn't want a Prince of Wales, then it shouldn't happen.
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Old 11-15-2013, 03:42 AM
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This entire should he/ should he pow title is ludicrous . It mirrors the 1910 situation of EVII/Alix & GV/MAY. Anyone who has read queen Mary's letters to HRH the grand duchess Augusta knows exactly how infuriated she was that the title was withheld for 11 months .

HM George v In turn only waited a month for his son Edward VIII, .
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Old 11-15-2013, 04:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Ish View Post

Likewise, the feelings of the Scots should be considered in the event of making Scottish Royal titles as well. In ignoring the people that live in those countries and not considering their feelings when creating Scottish or Welsh (or Northern Irish) titles the BRF is simply acting the role of the conqueror and oppressor.
The Scotts werent conquered by the English ... James of Scottland became also English King and in his Person and forthwith England & Scottland became united ... so you could say Scottland gained England. I can't understand from where comes the notion, that Scottland is 'lower' than England... only because Goverment is in London?

And I also don't understand the issue of the Welsh people - since Bruce (whatever his name) it's also a 1000 years that those to parts belong to gether.

Does Cornwall makes a fuss? Or Kent, Devon, Sussex, York etc? So why the Scotts and Wales?

With the Irish it's another matter, sadly they where treated badly by the english for to long a time..
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Old 11-15-2013, 04:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Lumutqueen View Post
How about going with all four.
What about the Scottish and Irish titles? Would you like referendums for those as well? By that same vein, should we elect the next King?

Originally Posted by Iluvbertie View Post
...There is a vocal Welsh republican movement - might be small but it is there...
IMO, the Welsh nationalist movement is hardly a mainstream issue in the UK, and continues to be very much a fringe issue. Surely the question even the Welsh nationalists will be asking is whether they wish to continue as part of the UK, or would like independence and have Wales as an independent country. That the heir to the UK throne is entitled The Prince of Wales is, IMO, a secondary question.

If we look at the Scottish nationalist campaign championed by the SNP, they would like Scotland to leave the UK and become an independent country, whilst at the same time they have clearly indicated they would retain the current monarch as the monarch of an independent Scotland.
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Old 11-15-2013, 04:39 AM
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This is just my supposition but I think if asked of the Welsh people, they might feel that investing William as The Prince of Wales in a way would be like investing one of their own. Will and Kate lived there, worked there, interacted with the people there for what? Three years?.

Although it was primarily for military reasons, over their tenure there, we did get a glimpse of how the local people were protective of the couple. It was rare that any kind of tabloid stories came out and local residents very much respected their privacy.
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Old 01-01-2014, 05:45 AM
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Just saying...

The Crown, a metal weight that signifies a mental weight, is the single most coveted item in the history of man. All kinds of darkness covers the history of pretty much every Crown in existence...
Things done to gain, retain, and pass on the "rights". Wars, bogus stories, blackmail, you name it... If held to the full light of the Duty of Royalty, not a single person alive, including myself, would be able to place a crown on our heads.

IMO lol
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Old 01-01-2014, 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Ancient Prince View Post
The Crown, a metal weight that signifies a mental weight, is the single most coveted item in the history of man. All kinds of darkness covers the history of pretty much every Crown in existence...
Things done to gain, retain, and pass on the "rights". Wars, bogus stories, blackmail, you name it... If held to the full light of the Duty of Royalty, not a single person alive, including myself, would be able to place a crown on our heads.

IMO lol
Welcome AP Too bad the lust for power often gets in the way of all that duty.

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