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Old 02-05-2020, 12:11 PM
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Prince Michael of Kent, in his role as Patron of the Towards Zero Foundation, held a meeting at Kensington Palace with Charlotte Vere, Baroness Vere of Norbiton, Transport Minister for Roads and Security on 3 February


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Old 02-12-2020, 02:46 AM
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Prince Michael of Kent, in his role as Royal Patron, unveiled a statue of British aviators John Alcock and Arthur Brown at the Brooklands Museum in Surrey on 10 February

The statue commemorates their heroic endeavors achieving the first crossing of the Atlantic in 1919 in a Brooklands designed and built Vickers Vimy.


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Old 02-12-2020, 07:29 AM
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Princess Michael promotin private medical clinic in Bahamas but says she wasn't paid and did not get her private treatment for free


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As I read in the article, is Prince Michael really a beloved cousin to the Queen?
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Old 02-12-2020, 04:54 PM
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Will Princess Michael have a book published this year?
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Old 02-12-2020, 09:10 PM
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As I read in the article, is Prince Michael really a beloved cousin to the Queen?
The Queen is quite close to all her first cousins. Why assume that she isn't cloes to Prince Michael. We do know she was upset when she wasn't able to keep her promise to him that the Michael's of Kent wouldn't be able to continue to have a rent free apartment at KP.

There aren't many people alive who remember Elizabeth as a Princess and Michael is one of them. He is also one of those who would still call her Lilibet.

Given the fact that his father died only weeks after his birth George VI took a close interest in the Kent children, including the baby who never knew his father and Elizabeth was also taken with the baby Kent.

We know she is close to his brother and sister so why assume she isn't close to the baby of the Kent family?
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Old 02-13-2020, 11:09 AM
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I don't say they aren't close. Just asking are there any grounds for this kind of statement. They may like each other but is he her beloved cousin?

Well, as much as you and me and anyone else, she does not need to be close to all her close (by blood) relatives. And I mean these days, not in childhood. It is often the seniors in the families who keep them together, like grandparents, and when by the time they're gone, everyone have their own "closer", immediate families established. Ties are weakened.

Was the Queen in close contact with the Lascelles boys? Maybe they were close to each other in their childhoods (given the age proximity). But what happened to their relationship when they stopped being playmates? I know, they weren't working royals and lived in Yorkshire so naturally there were not so many occassions to meet as there was with the Gloucesters and Kents, but still. The relations between them were not very close, I'd say. The controversies over the Lascelleses' private lives could be a factor in the (supposed?) family drift. The Queen didn't even attend Lord Harewood's funeral!

As for Michael of Kent, is his wife liked by his relatives? Do they accept her privately? We know she's a piece of work. It's important, because if she is not liked and not really accepted, the Windsors would avoid contact with her.

The KP apartment, it was meant to be a wedding gift from the Queen so it's natural that when the "affair" broke out, it became a trouble for her.
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Princess Michael and Sarah of Yorh never received any Order from the Queen.
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Old 02-14-2020, 03:37 AM
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Maybe that's because:
Princess Michael never really worked for the RF, so she has no record of public service on behalf of the Queen
Sarah, Duchess of York was in the family effectively for 6 years, while the last year (two?) before separation was already hard for the couple. So I think it was too short to get her an order.
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Princess Michael and Sarah of Yorh never received any Order from the Queen.
The order is given to females in the family who give service to the queen. Princess Michael has always been a private citizen. Other then accompanying her husband on the did trip and he too is considered private. There is no reason to think her not having the order has anything to do with not being close.

Sarah is another story. Unlike Diana, and the duchesses of Kent and Gloucester, she didn't get one within a year of marriage. It was sux years before they separated. But she seemed to be the start. Sophie didn't get hers till 2005, Kate until 2018. Camilla it only took two years. Perhaps due to being the wife of the immediate heir.
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Marie Christine does not hold any British Royal Orders however she is a Papal Dame of the Order of the Blessed Virgin Mary of Mercy as well as being a Dame Grand Cross of Honour and Devotion of the Sovereign Military Order of Malta.

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Maybe that's because:
Princess Michael never really worked for the RF, so she has no record of public service on behalf of the Queen
Sarah, Duchess of York was in the family effectively for 6 years, while the last year (two?) before separation was already hard for the couple. So I think it was too short to get her an order.
Earlier wives basically got the RFO within a year of marriage - up to and including Diana but with Sarah the Queen changed tack and made them 'earn' it by working and being married for a number of years. Princess Michael is the odd one out - being before the marriages all started to fail and the idea of earning the RFO being made but hasn't been given it for some reason, or maybe she has been offered it and refused for some reason and we haven't been told ... I can't imagine it but it is an idea.

The Duchess of Kent, for instance, got the RFO in 1961 the same year she married the Duke of Kent and The Duchess of Gloucester was given hers in 1973, a year after she married Prince Richard of Gloucester (as he then was).

Sophie married 1999 and was given the RFO in 2004, Camilla married in 2005 and was given the RFO in 2007 while Catherine married in 2011 but wasn't awarded the RFO until 2018.
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Princess Margaret never received the order of the Garter ?
I think her Cousine Princess Alexandra received it.
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Its hard to understand.. Possibly prior to Sarah the queen gave it out fairly quickly because she assumed that royal wives would be part of the family and the marriages would last. Then with the rumblings of problems in the C and DI marriage, and the Yorks getting to the point of separation witihn a few years, she realised that not all royal marriages mgith last and became cautious...
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I don't believe Marie Christine turned down an order. She seems to be so grandiose. Thus, there must be a reason the Queen still doesn't want her to have a very personal award, a sign of membership in the RF, her personal order. I agree the other orders are for public and royal service and the Princess simply doesn't fit for them. But the RFO?

I think she was never fully accepted by her husband's relatives. They might just don't like her privately. The RFO is a sign of inclusion into the family.

But maybe it's because she's not a working member! But again, as you said, when she came into the RF it wasn't earned at it is today.

An Ard Do, the medals you've mentioned are given to those who simply take part in the events they commemorate. So those don't count in our discussion.
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Marie Christine does not hold any British Royal Orders however she is a Papal Dame of the Order of the Blessed Virgin Mary of Mercy as well as being a Dame Grand Cross of Honour and Devotion of the Sovereign Military Order of Malta.
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Princess Michael was given/awarded the Order of the Starry Cross. This order verified and confirmed her blue-blooded bloodline.
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Princess Michael was given/awarded the Order of the Starry Cross. This order verified and confirmed her blue-blooded bloodline.
And her Roman Catholicism helped
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Princess Michael was given/awarded the Order of the Starry Cross. This order verified and confirmed her blue-blooded bloodline.
It verified she was a catholic blue blood. It’s only awarded to aristocratic women who are Catholic and show devotion to the faith through charity.
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Princess Margaret never received the order of the Garter ?
I think her Cousine Princess Alexandra received it.
I think that the Queen Mother opposed royal ladies having the Garter - other than Queen's, and female future monarchs such as Elizabeth herself who was given it in 1947, and so Margaret didn't get it.

Alexandra was given it AFTER both Margaret and the Queen Mum died in 2002. Alexandra was given it in 2003 - a year after both those ladies died.

That would suggest to me that had Margaret outlived her mother she may very well have been given it but not while The Queen Mum lived.
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