Order of the Garter 2003-2022: Ceremonies and Information

[An Ard Ri]

Is it me or is the sun always shinning on Garter Day at Windsor?

[Stefan]

Originally Posted by An Ard Ri

Is it me or is the sun always shinning on Garter Day at Windsor?

I think a few years ago it rained

[Erin9]

Originally Posted by US Royal Watcher

Agreed. During William's investiture in 2008, Harry and Kate were obviously laughing at him, while William was throwing them dirty looks. I remember thinking that he wasn't loving being there. I don't think much has changed in the intervening time.

I get the impression sometimes that William may be somewhat uncomfortable wearing- for lack of a better word and I don’t want to be disrespectful- costumes. (Something other than suits, jeans, etc.) I may be way off though.

[Alison H]

He probably does. Most people would feel a bit silly walking around in medieval attire. Those hats do look a bit comical, tradition or no!

[HRHHermione]

Next year’s Garter Day is going to be a special one I think, especially if it takes place just after the coronation.

Is it appropriate to speculate here about who may receive it next or should that be elsewhere? The only senior working member of the royal family who doesn’t have it right now is Catherine and it would be very special for her to be among the first to have it granted by King Charles.

[Blog Real]

Originally Posted by Alison H

He probably does. Most people would feel a bit silly walking around in medieval attire. Those hats do look a bit comical, tradition or no!

It is tradition to wear these clothes. And traditions must be preserved.

[maria-olivia]

King Charles III may invite King Philippe of the Belgians and Grand Duke Henri of Luxembourg and give them endly the Order of the Garter .

[Mbruno]

Originally Posted by maria-olivia

King Charles III may invite King Philippe of the Belgians and Grand Duke Henri of Luxembourg and give them endly the Order of the Garter .

I am pretty sure King Charles III would be glad to do that, but who gets invited to a state visit depends on the UK government and I suspect Belgium and Luxembourg are not priorities right now.

Going by tradition, however, the new monarch should visit his more senior colleagues first before they visit him. So it would make sense for King Philippe to invite King Charles III first to visit Belgium. King Philippe is somewhat unique among his peers in the sense that, not only does he not have the Garter, but actually he doesn’t have any British order. If King Charles III made an outgoing visit to Belgium first, I don’t think he would award King Philippe the order of the Garter right away. Probably King Philippe would be made a GCVO first and perhaps be additionally bestowed the Royal Victorian Chain , before being made a KG, which would happen only at a future incoming Belgian state visit to the UK..

But it is a new reign and protocol may change. See for example how the Queen Consort did away with Ladies in Waiting.

[Iluvbertie]

Originally Posted by HRHHermione

Next year’s Garter Day is going to be a special one I think, especially if it takes place just after the coronation.

Is it appropriate to speculate here about who may receive it next or should that be elsewhere? The only senior working member of the royal family who doesn’t have it right now is Catherine and it would be very special for her to be among the first to have it granted by King Charles.

Sophie doesn't have the Garter either although married-ins normally don't get it other than future consorts. Camilla only got it this year so I am not sure that it is time for Catherine yet. Actually The late Queen giving it to Camilla was a break with tradition as Edward VII, George V and George VI all gave it to their wives when they became Kings. George VI gave it to Philip just before his wedding day rather than make him wait until he became the consort.

[HRHHermione]

Originally Posted by Iluvbertie

Sophie doesn't have the Garter either although married-ins normally don't get it other than future consorts. Camilla only got it this year so I am not sure that it is time for Catherine yet. Actually The late Queen giving it to Camilla was a break with tradition as Edward VII, George V and George VI all gave it to their wives when they became Kings. George VI gave it to Philip just before his wedding day rather than make him wait until he became the consort.

I would normally agree that it would take time for Catherine but there’s a lot on her in terms of continuity of the monarchy plus, I would think that in other circumstances, Charles might have granted it to The Duke of Sussex, but that would be tough to do at present.

Either way, I really am looking forward to seeing who gets this huge honor in the first year of the new reign.

[muriel]

Originally Posted by HRHHermione

I would normally agree that it would take time for Catherine but there’s a lot on her in terms of continuity of the monarchy plus, I would think that in other circumstances, Charles might have granted it to The Duke of Sussex, but that would be tough to do at present.

Either way, I really am looking forward to seeing who gets this huge honor in the first year of the new reign.

I would not expect Sophie or Catherine to get the Garter in the first year of the King's reign.

[Hans-Rickard]

I doubt any royals will be installed next year… The Duke of Sussex could have been, but i really can’t imagine that as long as the situation is what it is….

I could be wrong but i don’t think it is Catherine’s turn just yet…

I am more curious to see wich non-royals will be installed and how many… QEII installed 2 persons at a time but there is 5 vacancies right now among the 24-person limit category of non-royal Knight/Lady Companions…. Every Duke of Norfolk has recived it in time for the coronations so that’s definitely a possibility… I would also expect a new Field Marshal to be appointed since the death of The Lord Inge earlier this year…

[Mbruno]

Originally Posted by Hans-Rickard

I doubt any royals will be installed next year… The Duke of Sussex could have been, but i really can’t imagine that as long as the situation is what it is….

I could be wrong but i don’t think it is Catherine’s turn just yet…

I am more curious to see wich non-royals will be installed and how many… QEII installed 2 persons at a time but there is 5 vacancies right now among the 24-person limit category of non-royal Knight/Lady Companions…. Every Duke of Norfolk has recived it in time for the coronations so that’s definitely a possibility… I would also expect a new Field Marshal to be appointed since the death of The Lord Inge earlier this year…

The next former PM in line to be admittted into the Order of the Garter is Gordon Brown, but, since he is Scottish, he may be admitted into the Order of the Thistle instead (or both?).

I also think the Duke of Norfolk is a likely candidate because of the upcoming coronation.

[Hans-Rickard]

Originally Posted by Mbruno

The next former PM in line to be admittted into the Order of the Garter is Gordon Brown, but, since he is Scottish, he may be admitted into the Order of the Thistle instead (or both?).

I also think the Duke of Norfolk is a likely candidate because of the upcoming coronation.

It’s definitely possible that Brown will get the Order of the Thistle instead, like the other scottish P.M Alec Douglas-Home did… There is currently one vacancy among the 16 persons limit category of non-royal Knights/Ladies (after Alec’s son David Douglas-Home actually) so i wonder if that will go to Brown ��