Order of the Garter 2003-2019: Ceremonies and Information

[Mbruno]

Originally Posted by Rudolph

Catherine and William in the carriage with the King and Queen of Spain

Who rode with the King of the Netherlands and Queen Maxima ?

[Rudolph]

Rebecca English said she senses a royal visit to Spain coming up for the Cambridges...

Both couples rode together today

[Lumutqueen]

Originally Posted by Mbruno

Who rode with the King of the Netherlands and Queen Maxima ?

The Duke of York,

Interesting choice of carriage companions I think.

[Duc_et_Pair]

Originally Posted by Lumutqueen

The Duke of York,

Interesting choice of carriage companions I think.

The King of the Netherlands is longer in function than the King of Spain. But the King of Spain is a bit longer a Garter Knight. In usual precedence a son of the Queen comes before a grandson of the Queen. But these days, it seems all relaxed and in good nature.

[Marchesina]

Originally Posted by Lumutqueen

The Duke of York,

Interesting choice of carriage companions I think.

Same, I thought the Prince of Wales and the Duchess of Cornwall would have accompanied them but, given they are with the Queen, the Duke of York is the highest in rank after The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge.

[theroyalfly]

Who has an idea what is that Diamond Flower Brooch Letizia is wearing?

[Marengo]

Originally Posted by Duc_et_Pair

The relationship between King Willem II and the British Court became sour:
- Princess Charlotte of Wales abruptly ended their engagement
- Princess Charlotte felt in love with exactly the later King of the "rebellious" Belgians
- The British supported the separatists in the Southern Netherlands, which would become Belgium

In addition one of his sons -the unfortunate Prince Alexander IIRC- was ignored by Queen Victoria in favor of a Saxe-Coburg. But if these orders were a personal token of respect one wonders why King Willem III ever received one, as Queen Victoria didn't have a high opinion of him - and quite rightly so.

[Mbruno]

Originally Posted by theroyalfly

Who has an idea what is that Diamond Flower Brooch Letizia is wearing?

It has been discussed in the Queen Letizia jewelry forum. The brooch belonged ( belongs ? ) to Queen Sofia.

[Duc_et_Pair]

Originally Posted by theroyalfly

Who has an idea what is that Diamond Flower Brooch Letizia is wearing?

I believe it was a gift from the Spanish Government to Princess Sophia of Greece and Denmark, for her engagement to Don Juan Carlos. Or I am mixing it with the diamond flower motif diadem.

Originally Posted by Marengo

In addition one of his sons -the unfortunate Prince Alexander IIRC- was ignored by Queen Victoria in favor of a Saxe-Coburg. But if these orders were a personal token of respect one wonders why King Willem III ever received one, as Queen Victoria didn't have a high opinion of him - and quite rightly so.

Willem III of course still was the King of neighbouring Netherlands, Grand-Duke of Luxembourg and it included a vast colonial empire. I am sure Queen Victoria thought: "Close your eyes, and think of England"...

[Marengo]

I suppose that was likely the attitude indeed :). It seems that Willem III only received his Garter in 1882 - after reigning for 33 years and after he altered his ways upon his second marriage to Queen Emma. Queen Emma's sister Pss Helena of Waldeck married Victoria's son the Duke of Albany in 1882, I presume King Willem III received the order when he visited the UK for the wedding festivities.

[Rudolph]

Their Majesties looked like they thoroughly enjoyed themselves. Not ever day they have a carriage procession through Windsor

[Mbruno]

Originally Posted by Rudolph

Their Majesties looked like they thoroughly enjoyed themselves. Not ever day they have a carriage procession through Windsor

Do you have a link to the carriage procession ?

[Rudolph]

Originally Posted by Mbruno

Do you have a link to the carriage procession ?

First clip is Spain and the second The Netherlands. There’s probably better out there

https://twitter.com/MajestyMagazine/...323829249?s=20

https://twitter.com/MajestyMagazine/...227113985?s=20

No one beats the DM for pictures

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ts-Garter.html

[carlota]

well, what a treat for us royal watchers! i liked maxima and letizia's outfits for such a memorable occasion. interesting that maxima took her hat off for the official picture, but letizia didn't. also, maxima and camilla wore gloves, whereas letizia and kate didn't - wonder what the appropriate protocol is in all of this.

a nice picture of the 4 royal ladies together:
https://previews.rexfeatures.com/pre...78e83fb02f46db

[Duc_et_Pair]

Originally Posted by carlota

well, what a treat for us royal watchers! i liked maxima and letizia's outfits for such a memorable occasion. interesting that maxima took her hat off for the official picture, but letizia didn't. also, maxima and camilla wore gloves, whereas letizia and kate didn't - wonder what the appropriate protocol is in all of this.

a nice picture of the 4 royal ladies together:
https://previews.rexfeatures.com/pre...78e83fb02f46db

Hats and gloves are always an option, never a requirement. But I think Camilla and Máxima have the same sort of idea of a royal uniform (which is in line with Scandinavian monarchies).

Belgium and Luxembourg are hat-wearing but gloves were a bit out of use under Maria Teresa and Paola. Luckily Mathilde is picking up the noble art of wearing gloves now.

[wyevale]

In the 'Fashion Stakes', [for me] Queen Maxima won, by a short head over the Countess of Wessex, with the Duchess of Cornwall well ahead of both Queen Letitia and the Duchess of Cambridge

[wartenberg7]

Originally Posted by Duc_et_Pair

Not always during State Visits, but the latest years QEII seems to have coupled it to a State Visit indeed.

Grand-Duke Henri is without a Garter too. As well the new King of Thailand and the new Emperor of Japan, of course.

Did the late GD Jean have the Garter or his mother GD Charlotte? If not, no Garters for Grand Dukes...?!


Another question: Did the King and Queen of the N.lands occupy a coach only for themselves or have they also been joined by british Royals?

[Rudolph]

GD Jean had the Garter. The Dutch King and Queen were escorted by the Duke of York

Queen Maxima and The Duchess of Cambridge having a good laugh at something the King said

https://twitter.com/HRHDuchesskate/s...863923713?s=20

https://twitter.com/SpainMFA/status/...473296385?s=20

https://twitter.com/sjhsmits/status/...601747968?s=20

Not just royal social media but the Foreign Office Of both Spain and The Netherlands getting in on the action. Seems to have been well received.

[Duc_et_Pair]

Yes, when the Grand-Duke died, his stall plate, crest and personal standard were taken down in St George's Chapel. I have seen a Twitter pic passing by.

[muriel]

Originally Posted by Rudolph

Queen Maxima and The Duchess of Cambridge having a good laugh at something the King said

https://twitter.com/HRHDuchesskate/s...863923713?s=20

Great picture. It is clear there is some chemistry there, from the various times they have met over the years.