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On this day, April 7, 1853 ~ Birth of Prince Leopold, Duke of Albany
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On this day, April 7th,1330 birth of John 3rd Earl of Kent and Baron Wake of Liddell.
John was a grandson of King Edward I .His father Edmund of Woodstock, 1st Earl of Kent was beheaded for treason in 1330.His older brother Edmund died in 1331 and John succeeded him to the Earldom of Kent.John had married Isabella of Julich in 1348 but the marriage was childless.
Following the death of his mother Lady Margaret Wake in 1349 he inherited the Barony of Wake of Liddell.

The Earl died in December 1352 he was buried at the now destroyed Greyfriars Church in Winchester,his widow Isabelle died in 1396 and was buried beside him.

Following John's death. in 1352 he titles passed to his older sister,Joan of Kent,Princess of Wales.
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Who inherited the titles after Joan of Kent, Princess of Wales?
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Who inherited the titles after Joan of Kent, Princess of Wales?
Joan of Kent, Princess of Wales died on the 7th of August 1385.Her son,Thomas Holland from her 1st marriage to Sir Thomas Holland, 2nd Baron Holand inherited the Earldom of Kent and Barony of Wake of Liddell.

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On this day, April 8, 1795 ~ The wedding of George, Prince of Wales and Caroline of Brunswick at St. James Palace

On this day, April 9, 1413 ~ The coronation of King Henry V of England
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April 10th,1472 -Birth of Margaret of York

The 4th daughter of Edward IV of England and Elizabeth Woodville,Margaret was born at Winchester Castle but sadly died 8 months later and was buried at Westminster Abbey.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_of_York_(1472)

April 10th,1362 -Death of Maud, Countess of Leicester

Maud was a member of the English Royal Family,she was the daughter of the Duke of Lancaster.She was married off to William V, Count of Holland, Zeeland and Hainault in 1352.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maud,_...s_of_Leicester
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On this day, April 11, 1689 ~ The Coronation of King William III and Queen Mary II at Westminster Abbey
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11 April 1374 -Birth of Roger Mortimer, 4th Earl of March and Earl of Ulster.

Roger was a cousin of Richard II of England he was the son of Philippa of Clarence,Countess of Ulster and Roger Mortimer, 4th Earl of March.His mother,Philippa was the only child of Lionel of Antwerp, 1st Duke of Clarence, and Elizabeth de Burgh, 4th Countess of Ulster.

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April 13 1275- death of Eleanor of England, Countess of Leicester

Eleanor was the youngest daughter of King John and his second wife Isabella of Angouleme. At the time of her birth London was controlled by the French, her mother was in disgrace, and her father had been forced to sign the Magna Carta. She never met her father who died in 1216, when she was only a year old. After the death of her father, her brother became Henry III. Henry was only eight at the time of the death of their father.


The only lands loyal to the crown at the time of her father's death were the Midlands. In the North the barons ruled, and the south was still controlled by the French. The royalists though, including the North eventually, were rallied behind Eleanor's brother by William Marshal, 1st Earl of Pembroke. William had served the court during the reign of Henry II, Richard and John (he had in fact been sent by Richard to free his mother Eleanor from her imprisonment after the death of Henry II). He now rallied to the aid of the new young king, helping to defeat the forces of Louis the Lion, and drive the French out of London. He was later appointed to the regency counsel.


Before his death in 1219, William saw to the engagement of his son William to Princess Eleanor. At the time of their betrothal Eleanor was 4 and William was 29. He was a widower, his first wife Alice of Bethune had died some time between 1215. She was the daughter of his father's ally Baldwin of Bethune. He had no children with his wife. His mother was Isabel de Clare, 4th Countess of Pembrook. His sister Maud would be the ancestor of five of Henry VIII's consorts. He arranged the marriage of his sister Isabel to Eleanor's brother Richard, Earl of Cornwall.


The couple were married April 23, 1224 when Eleanor was only 9, and her husband was 34 at temple church in London. Her husband died April 6, 1231, 17 days before their 7th anniversary. Eleanor was widowed at 16, and the marriage was childless. Her husband's title passed to the first of his younger brothers. Though William Marshall senior had five sons, the male line of his family died out. All five sons became Earl of Pembroke, and none had a son to follow them. The estates were later split between his four daughters, or their heirs.


Eleanor had brought 10 manors and 200 pounds per year to her marriage. By right she should have been allowed to retain 1/3 of the estate when her husband died. Unfortunately her husband's brother Richard seized the entire estate, selling much of her dowry to pay William's debts. Eleanor would spend years trying to reclaim what had been taken by him.


Eleanor took a vow of chastity before the Archbishop of Canterbury. This became a bit of a sticky issue seven years later.


Eleanor fell in love with Simon de Montford, 6th Earl of Leicester. Simon was said to have been drawn to her beauty and elegance as well as her position. Unlike her much older first husband, Simon was only 7 years her senior. Simon's father was a French nobleman and crusader, and his mother Alix de Montmorency. Simon was the middle of his father's three sons. His father had lost his English title, after King John lost Normandy. The estate had been placed in the hands of a distant cousin Ranulf, Earl of Chester. Simon's older brother Amaury in failing to claim Leicester for himself, passed his rites to his brother Simon instead. Simon came to England with little knowledge of the country but he impressed Henry III with his French. He eventually convinced the childless Ranulf to make him Earl of Leicester (took 7 years).

Simon and Eleanor were married in secret at the king's chapel at Westminster in 1238. Eleanor was 23 and Simon was 30. It was controversial since she had taken a vow of chastity. Her brother claimed he had only approved the marriage as Simon had seduced his sister. Due to her vow, Simon took a pilgrimage to Rome to gain the pope's blessing of their union.

Simon was killed during the Second Baron's war. Simon had seized control and become the de facto ruler of England, but later many barons switched sides and became royalists. Simon and his son were killed after being defeated at the battle of Evesham in 1265. Eleanor fled to France where she joined the convent at Montargis Abbey. The abbey had been founded by her husband's sister Amicia. Eleanor died there ten years after her husband and was buried there. She was well treated even in exile by her brother, who allowed her to retain her income, and some of her husband's lands. And when she died her will was not contested.


Her and her husband had seven children:

-Henry: died with his father at the Battle of Evesham at 27. He was killed in front of his father before his father later died.

-Simon: was slow to join his dad and brother at the Battle, and arrived after it ended, to find his father's head on a pike. He and his brother Guy later went into exile in France and Italy. They famously murdered their cousin Henry of Almain. He died the same year he killed Henry, said to have died cursed by god, a fugitive.


-Amaury: was a priest. He had gone into exile with his mother and siblings to France. As a papal chaplain he accompanied his sister to Wales. They were intercepted by the English and imprisoned. Unlike his sister who was treated gently, and eventually married at the king's expense, Amaury was held in horrid conditions. He was eventually freed thanks to the aid of both the Pope and his brother in law. He returned to France after released (he spent 7 years in prison). He died eventually in Italy, after giving up his clerical career shortly before.

-Guy: was imprisoned during the battle which saw the death of his father and Henry. He later escaped with the aid of Simon, and was involved in the murder of their cousin Henry. In 1287 he was captured by the Sicilian army and died in prison. Unlike his older brothers, Guy did marry. Guy married Margherita Aldobrandesca, the Lady of Sovana and had two daughters. His daughter Anastasia married Romano Orsini, a Roman senator. The marriage was arranged by Cardinal Napoleon Orsini who had been guardian of her Margherita. Anastasia as her mother's eldest child inherited her vast estate. Through Anastasia, Guy was the ancestor of Elizabeth Woodville (wife of Edward IV). Anastasia's great-great granddaughter Margaret of Baux was the grandmother of Jacquetta of Luxembourg.

-Joanna: died in infancy

-Richard: died in 1281. Seems to have not married.

-Eleanor: was married by proxy to Llywelyn ap Gruffudd. She and her brother Amaury though were captured on their way to Wales. She was a prisoner at Windsor for three years, though unlike her brother, she was treated well. She died giving birth to her only child in 1282, months before her husband died. Gwenllian of Wales was confined in a priory where she died 54 years later.

Eleanor's only descendants would come from the daughters of Guy.
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Sadly the Priory at Montargis no longer exists the town was occupied by the Huguenots in the 1560's and the Priory dissolved in 1790.

The seal of Eleanor of England, Countess of Leicester
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On this day, April 14, 1857 ~ The birth of Princess Beatrice, the daughter of Queen Victoria and Prince Albert
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On this day, April 15, 1367 ~ Birth of King Henry IV at Bolingbroke Castle
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On this day, April 15th,1136 Death of Richard Fitz Gilbert ,Earl of Brionne,Earl of Hertford and 3rd Lord of Clare.

Richard was a powerful Norman Lord and supporter of King Stephen who granted him the earldom of Hertford.He was ambushed and killed whilst on the Welsh borders with only a small escort.

His remains were buried at Tonbridge Priory in Kent that survived until the Reformation.
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On this day, April 18, 1712 ~ Demise of Louise Maria Teresa Stuart, the daughter of King James II
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Louisa Maria Teresa was buried at the Church of the English Benedictines in Paris which had been founded by 6 English Benedictines from Westminster Abbey who fled during the reign of Elizabeth I .The Church and Abbey were popular among English,Scottish and Irish Catholics exiles who had fled to France.

The church was ransacked and desecrated in 1793 and was later pulled down.

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On this day, April 18, 1712 ~ Demise of Louise Maria Teresa Stuart, the daughter of King James II
Very much one of history's footnotes sadly.
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Very much one of history's footnotes sadly.
I often wonder if she had any sort of relationship with her half sister Queen Anne?
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I often wonder if she had any sort of relationship with her half sister Queen Anne?
I'm not aware of any correspondence between them.
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I'm not aware of any correspondence between them.
I had a look online earlier and came across this account

William Legge, 1st Earl of Dartmouth, the British Secretary of State, wrote of the Princess's death

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The queen [Anne] shewed me a letter wrote in the king of France's own hand, upon the death of her sister; in which there was the highest character that ever was given to any princess of her age. Mr. Richard Hill came straight from the earl of Godolphin's... to me with the news, and said it was the worst that ever came to England. I asked him why he thought so. He said it had been happy if it had been her brother; for then the queen might have sent for her and married her to prince George, who could have no pretensions during her own life; which would have pleased every honest man in the kingdom, and made an end of all disputes for the future.
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I had a look online earlier and came across this account

William Legge, 1st Earl of Dartmouth, the British Secretary of State, wrote of the Princess's death
Tantalisingly the letter doesn't confirm if the sisters ever wrote to each other. Louis of course recognised the old pretender as king.

That's an interesting remark about marriage to young George of Hannover & the death of the claimant James III. George had a wife by the time of Louise Maria's death but such a hypothetical marriage would certainly have been a neat way to tidy up the disputed succession. A sort of later day Henry Tudor/Elizabeth of York arrangement.

Presumably it was thought a catholic queen was less of a threat than a catholic king. I suppose there would have been the calculation that any heir would be raised Anglican. I'm not sure that a catholic queen would really have been welcomed, even if married to protestant George. Besides catholics were barred anyway from 1701.
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