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09-13-2008, 12:05 AM
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It's one thing to want to be an original but this was a little too much
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09-13-2008, 12:20 AM
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I think the black was some sort of protest statement, if I remember right. She didn't like the fact that her parents were trying to present a united front at the wedding after giving her so much grief about it beforehand.
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09-13-2008, 08:30 AM
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thank you for the pic. I think Marina's dress is awful!!
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09-13-2008, 08:56 AM
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She was a very troubled teenager who rebelled against her parents by deliberately publicly embarrassing them and by extension the Queen. She and her children have since been seen at events with the extended Royal Family so all has been forgiven.
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09-13-2008, 08:59 AM
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I think she was already several month pregnant with her first child. It wouldn't surprise me if the outfit was chosen to hide the pregnancy. People consider black slimming and the red bolero being a bright distraction.
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10-15-2008, 12:09 AM
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Apparently bridges are being unburned and fences mended: Marina, as well as Fergie herself, will attend Princess Beatrice's 18th birthday bash at Windsor.
Marina will be escorted by her daughter Zenouska, one of Bea's best friends, and the Queen will be in attendance to meet Chelsy Davy for the first time. At least so says today's Daily Mail.
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07-09-2009, 08:35 AM
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From this link courtesy of Elly C, Princess Alexandra and Zenouska Mowatt were in the Royal Box at Wimbledon on Friday 3 July.
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11-16-2009, 03:52 PM
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I can see the resemblance between Marina and her mother here, something which I hadn't seen in the past. In fact, I can see Marina's resemblance to Lady Gabriella.
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11-20-2009, 12:56 PM
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Any updates on this family?
Marina is a very interesting person--anyone have any updates on her or her children?? Zenouska should be out of school or at University? Anyone know anything?
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07-11-2010, 09:59 PM
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Zenouska Update
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Originally Posted by Hopewell
Marina is a very interesting person--anyone have any updates on her or her children?? Zenouska should be out of school or at University? Anyone know anything?
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"......Zenouska Mowatt are also believed to be among the assistants she has lost. "
in the recent article about Sarah's (The Duchess of York) staff being
dismissed.
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07-16-2010, 06:09 PM
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Zenouska
You are very wrong, Zenouska has never worked for Fergie, she helped her out on a recent trip to NY when one of Fergie's aides took ill, but that was that.
The Daily Mail reported the blunder on the 12th of July, stating that it was a mistake that Zenouska had ever worked for Fergie.
Zenouska has recently worked for the Bridgman Art Library in Paris, and when she is in England divides her time between her Mothers home in Windsor and her Fathers home in Richmond.
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07-16-2010, 06:27 PM
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Sadly you all seem to be relying on tabloid gossip .... Zenouska was never lent a dress for anything, her Mother and Father are good friends with Vivienne Westwood, and therefore would never have the need to ask any member of the family for any such thing ! .... Furthermore, Zenouska and her Brother Christian had their education paid for by their parents. Marina works as a composer for film and television, and their Father works as a photographer / designer. Their parents keep a very low profile these days, but of course these things never get reported in the tabloids that you're all so fond of quoting !
Finally, Marina does not (once again thanks to tabloid gutter journalism) live of 'benefits' of any sort whatsoever ! She is a working Mother and along with the children;s Father provides all for the children.
Yes, Marina has a house in Windsor great park, but prior to Marina and Paul getting divorced they bought a house on the beach in Norfolk, which to this day they still own and is used by Marina and Paul respectively, and of course the children now benefit now that they are young adults.
It's very easy to speculate on these forums about this or that, but based on what ? Tabloid gossip ? ... You need to remember that 'fickle' comments about how the children's Mother has aged could be read by the children and deemed extremely hurtful.
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07-17-2010, 06:23 AM
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Sorry, but all we can do is rely on tabloid gossip, due to the fact that we do not know the royals personally.
Could you provide us with some proof as to your information your providing?
If Zenouska has never worked for Fergie, where has she worked?
Just because you are best friends with Vivienne Westwood, it does not mean you always wear her clothes, some of them are truely horrible. And Marina may like the wear something else. If she borrowed a dress from Bea or Eugenie, whats wrong with that?
Marina and her family live and incredible quiet lifestyle, so why would the press pick up on any of the information you supposedly found out about? Members quote the articles that we find about her, because again that is all we have. From what i've looked through, the articles are mainly from the independent or the telegraph, very respected broadsheets in England.
You say all these things, but how do you know them for truth? Do you know Marina and her family? Or are you just speculating too?
Well considering all we have to go on is Tabloid gossip, that is all we can comment on. This forum is about expressing our opinions, and if a member thinks that Marina has not aged very well, then that is their right to think that. I doubt the children even read this forum.
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07-17-2010, 07:31 AM
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I for one am glad I never rely on tabloids.  But you, Jack69, seem to be in the know.  Are you related to Marina's family?
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07-17-2010, 07:39 AM
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Nobody relies on the tabloids, but if that's the only way we get information on Marina and her children, what are we supposed to do?
Not all of us are in the know like Jack69.
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07-17-2010, 08:08 AM
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I don't believe everything I read in the tabloids but sadly that's the only information about people like Marina Mowatt and her daughter Zenouska we get.
So, thanks for your information, Jack69!  It's great to hear that she is working or has worked for an Art Library in Paris.
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07-22-2010, 07:09 PM
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Tabloids & Gossip
I remember the story about Marina being on welfare. I figured it was total crap. After all her family is VERY wealthy. I also thought, well maybe for a while after the divorce she needed benefits to stay independent--not have to crawl to the family or something. After all, if she has worked, she's paid in so to speak. I think she's very interesting--and so likely her kids are too. Marina's distant cousins the Lascelles [Lord Harewood's sons and grandsons] are mostly in the music industry, one of the Gloucester girls worked behind the scenes in film, so it's interesting to see what the "minor" royals do when not on the balcony at Trooping the Colour!
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07-22-2010, 07:29 PM
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It is good to hear about the minor royals from time to time and what they do for a living. Afterall we tend to forget they have to earn their living.
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07-23-2010, 02:10 PM
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They have to earn their living, they're retired from public life. You/we should leave them alone.
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