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05-16-2019, 04:01 AM
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Lady Gabriella and Thomas Kingston News 1: May 2019 -
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05-20-2019, 05:27 PM
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Is there any reason why the most senior royal to attend Lord Freddie's wedding was Princess Eugenie, yet the entire royal family, including the Queen and Duke of Edinburgh all attended Lady Gabriella's wedding?
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05-20-2019, 05:31 PM
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Is there any reason why the most senior royal to attend Lord Freddie's wedding was Princess Eugenie, yet the entire royal family, including the Queen and Duke of Edinburgh all attended Lady Gabriella's wedding?
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Freddie was married when most of the senior royals were on holiday. If he'd married in Windsor in May, it's likely more would have attended.
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05-21-2019, 08:20 AM
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https://ta-images.condecdn.net/image...024973.jpgDoes anyone know the guy behind Princess Michael of Kent? I see Princess Alexandra here too! Glad that she's able to join this photo with them sad that neither the Duke or Duchess of Kent were present.
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05-21-2019, 10:16 AM
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https://www.royal.uk/official-photog...homas-kingston
The wording of the press release suggests that, at this time, Lady Gabriella is still known as Lady Gabriella Windsor rather than Lady Gabriella Kingston. But in light of what happened to Princess Eugenie, the possibility it will eventually be changed cannot be ruled out.
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05-21-2019, 03:28 PM
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Surely she wouldn't be Lady Gabriella Kingston? That would imply her title came from her husband which it doesn't....
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05-21-2019, 03:41 PM
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Surely she wouldn't be Lady Gabriella Kingston? That would imply her title came from her husband which it doesn't....
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Lady Kingston would not be correct, but Lady Gabriella Kingston would be, just like Lady Sarah Chatto or Lady Sarah McCorqoudale. Their husbands are also Mr.
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05-21-2019, 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by O-H Anglophile
Lady Kingston would not be correct, but Lady Gabriella Kingston would be, just like Lady Sarah Chatto or Lady Sarah McCorqoudale. Their husbands are also Mr.
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Exatly, the norm is that they use Lady + first name + married name, as do various other members of the royal family:
Daughters of the duke of Gloucester:
Lady Davina Lewis (we discussed whether she would go back to using Windsor after her divorce)
Lady Rose Gilman
Daughter of the duke of Kent:
Lady Helen Taylor
So, yes, I would fully expect that Lady Gabriella would be known as Lady Gabriella Kingston from now on.
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05-24-2019, 07:20 AM
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Has anyone heard where the couple will honeymoon?
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05-24-2019, 10:22 AM
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Surely she wouldn't be Lady Gabriella Kingston? That would imply her title came from her husband which it doesn't....
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I think she will be Lady Gabriella Kingston. If the title would have come from her husband, then she would've been Lady Thomas Kingston. e.g. her sister in law Lady Frederick Windsor, and also her mother Princess Michael.
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05-24-2019, 10:28 AM
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In Wikipedia she is already Lady Gabriella Kingston.
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05-24-2019, 12:01 PM
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Has anyone heard where the couple will honeymoon?
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There was a royal reporter on TV a few days ago and he mentioned the Seychelles as the honeymoon destination but whether that's actually correct or not I don't know.
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05-24-2019, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Biri
In Wikipedia she is already Lady Gabriella Kingston.
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That means nothing other than possibly someone made an assumption and changed her name in the entry.
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05-24-2019, 03:57 PM
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Yes, she's Lady Gabriella Kingston - the title Lady Gabriella stays with her, because it comes from her father, and it doesn't matter that she's changed her surname. As with Lady Helen Taylor, Lady Sarah Chatto, Lady Jane Fellowes, etc.
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05-24-2019, 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Alison H
Yes, she's Lady Gabriella Kingston - the title Lady Gabriella stays with her, because it comes from her father, and it doesn't matter that she's changed her surname. As with Lady Helen Taylor, Lady Sarah Chatto, Lady Jane Fellowes, etc.
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But has an announcement been posted making it clear that she has changed her surname? The press release with the wedding photographs used Lady Gabriella Windsor.
It is arguable that the George V declaration of 1917 does not allow Lady Gabriella the choice to keep her surname, and the majority of British women opt to change their surnames on marriage, but I don't think it has been clarified.
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05-24-2019, 05:58 PM
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In Wikipedia she is already Lady Gabriella Kingston.
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Officially should she be The Lady Gabriella Kingston?
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05-24-2019, 07:45 PM
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Officially should she be The Lady Gabriella Kingston?
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No. The word The designates a substantive title. A title that is simple a courtesy, like Ella and Freddie's, doesn't have the in front of it.
Just like William in Scotland is The Earl of Strathearn. George would simply be Earl of Strathearn as it is a courtesy title in his case.
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05-24-2019, 08:02 PM
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The royal court uses both variations to designate peers' daughters. For example, the official list of members of the royal family includes "The Lady Louise Mountbatten-Windsor" and "The Lady Sarah Chatto".
https://www.royal.uk/sites/default/f...l_family_7.pdf
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05-24-2019, 08:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alison H
Yes, she's Lady Gabriella Kingston - the title Lady Gabriella stays with her, because it comes from her father, and it doesn't matter that she's changed her surname. As with Lady Helen Taylor, Lady Sarah Chatto, Lady Jane Fellowes, etc.
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Actually, Jane is Lady Fellowes or Baroness Fellowes, as her husband Robert is Baron Fellowes.
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05-24-2019, 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by O-H Anglophile
Actually, Jane is Lady Fellowes or Baroness Fellowes, as her husband Robert is Baron Fellowes.
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Yes and no.
The couple married in 1978. Her husband was simply Mr Robert Fellowes when they married. Had she not been the daughter of a Earl, she would have simply been Mrs Fellowes. She was Lady Jane Fellowes when she married due to her courtesy title as a daughter of an Earl.
It wasn't until 21 years later, in 1999, her husband was raised by Baron Fellowes. And then Jane added Baroness Fellowes to her title.
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