Harry and William's Relationship

[Isabella]

It's not all about that party, though I brought it up on the other thread. Nor is it about the very different circumstances of their private lives. William and Harry will probably always love each other like brothers, but as adults they just don't appear close any more. You never hear about them socialising together or spending spare time together. There are a few sparse exceptions, a shoot in Spain, weddings of mutual friends, and that's it. It's obvious to me that they've grown apart.

I think it all depends on how one gauges closeness, I suppose. For many people, myself included, closeness to a family member isn't calculated at all by how many social events we attend together. I see family members mostly at holidays. However, there's a constant flow of communication going on between us, via texts and phone calls and e-mails. Most adults I know don't hang out with their siblings all the time (of course, many, if not most, don't live in the same city as their siblings). Personally, I haven't had family members at my birthday parties since I was a child - instead, they're more likely to drop by my house with a gift on the week of my birthday or maybe take me out to lunch. In terms of William, Harry, and the rest of the royal family, most of the get-togethers that we know about likely only scratch the surface.

 

[Moonmaiden23]

How do any of us know what is going on in anyone's life? Seriously how do we know how much contact they are in when they are not in public view? I am not saying that they are or are not close, I am saying I do not know.

I agree 100%. I personally believe they love one another and are very loyal and protective of each other as brothers . I imagine that the sibling relationship of Harry and William Wales is somewhat like that of Caroline Kennedy and her brother, the late JFK Jr. Just like Caroline and John the Wales boys are bonded together forever, both by trauma and familial ties.They have been through a growing up experience that is as tragic as it is unique and no one can possibly understand what it was like except the two of them.

But they are adults now with different friends, interests, and careers. They even have very different taste in women, with Harry apparently going for posh blondes. It is inevitable that their relationship will not be what it was before William married and started a family, nor should it be frankly.

They are perhaps close in a different way than before.

 

[Mirabel]

William and Harry have different lifestyles right now.

However, when William listed his support system, he put Harry in second place, right after Kate.

 

[Curryong]

Yes, I was happy to see that.

 

[Moonmaiden23]

William and Harry have different lifestyles right now.

However, when William listed his support system, he put Harry in second place, right after Kate.

Which doesn't surprise me in the least...it was the point of my entire post.

 

[sndral]

William and Harry have different lifestyles right now.

However, when William listed his support system, he put Harry in second place, right after Kate.

Precisely, and IMO very telling. The brothers' joking remarks about each other, their interaction when we do see video of them together as well as their occasional compliments about each other all suggest a strong and supportive bond between them. Around a year ago there was a pap shot of Nanny Maria w/ Prince George watching Uncle Harry leave in a helicopter from KP, which made me think that of course they both live @ KP and likely when both are there see a great deal of each other.

... I imagine that the sibling relationship of Harry and William Wales is somewhat like that of Caroline Kennedy and her brother, the late JFK Jr. They are bonded together forever, both by trauma and familial ties.They have been through a growing up experience that is as tragic as it is unique and no one can possibly understand what it was like except the two of them. ..

My sister and I lost our father when we were very young, experiencing that trauma and witnessing it's impact on our mother forged a strong and protective bond between us which still stands despite times when we were living in different states or were super busy in our individual lives. I imagine that William and Harry have a similar bond - particularly given the turmoil in their lives during their parents' divorce plus the loss of their mother.
My impression is that Harry likes to party and drink and tends to associate with like minded folks. Catherine seems to have mostly moderated those tendencies in William, thus it's unlikely that we'll see reports of William and Catherine joining Harry and his crowd at a club. My sister and half brother love going wine tasting whereas I rarely drink so I never join them on those jaunts - doesn't mean we aren't close or that we don't do other things together, likewise William and Catherine may host Harry for dinner whenever they are at KP or Harry may pop over to play w/ his nephew (and now niece) yet we'd never know.
I suspect that William and Harry are much closer than Charles and Andrew were/are.

 

[Skippyboo]

We know they are watching rugby with each other on Saturday because William said so at Welsh reception.

I don't understand the fascination of trying to psychoanalyze the relationships of complete strangers from brief bits of their lives filtered most of the time through the media.


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[Moonmaiden23]

That's kind of the point of this entire thread isn't it? Else why is the topic even up in the first place?


sndral, I am very sorry to hear about the loss of your father in early childhood.

 

[Rudolph]

Prince William reveals rugby rivalry with Prince Harry

Prince William has urged the Welsh rugby team to beat England at their World Cup fixture on Saturday – to keep his younger brother Prince Harry quiet. The Duke of Cambridge, who is the vice-patron of the Welsh Rugby Union, met with the players on Monday at their World Cup welcoming ceremony at the Guildhall in London, and told them: "Unfortunately I will be watching you with my brother, so I will need a Wales win more than ever!"

Read more: Prince William urges Welsh rugby team to beat England - hellomagazine.com

 

[Rudolph]

William and Harry are having a busy autumn, working in their own inimitable way on causes that are close to their heart. By Ingrid Seward. This article appears in the latest edition of Majesty magazine.

Best of British | Princes united | The BB Edit

 

[Curryong]

Something about the brothers' jokey relationship from Ant and Dec.

Prince Harry promises to babysit - ENewsDaily

 

[Osipi]

I get some pretty funny images in my mind when I think of Harry babysitting for George and Charlotte. It usually starts with a rousing chorus of "Yay! Uncle Harry's here" and ends up with forts being made and a wonderful playtime being had by all three of them. Harry is fantastic with kids and I think K&W's two would take full advantage of that.

 

[sndral]

Something about the brothers' jokey relationship from Ant and Dec.

Prince Harry promises to babysit - ENewsDaily

I though this quote was interesting as well:
"Dec continued: 'Like Ant and me, William and Harry live very close to each other. They live in different parts of Kensington Palace. We were asking William whether Harry comes round for his dinner He does, but if William goes round to Harry’s place there’s never anything in the fridge, so Kate always invites him round.'"

 

[TLLK]

^^^IMHO it is comments like this one that tell me that the brothers do have a close relationship and I believe that they like having each other as neighbors.

 

[Dman]

Yes, also Harry have a very close relationship with his sister-in-law.

 

[Jacknch]

In the documentary, William and Harry talked about what it is like to live as neighbours and it was clear they are very close.
William acknowledged that since they both left the Forces, their programmes (charity interest, agendas etc) are different, which is why it is nice to be neighbours - he also revealed that Harry pops round to steal all the food!

I was quite surprised at how relaxed William was, joking with lots of banter and he as Harry are more alike than we are lead to believe.

 

[Queen Camilla]

I looked at the video a few times and saw tension between the brothers.

I think William said that because of their current schedules they do not see much of each other so his jab at Harry taking food came across as mean spirited, especially since he was trying to say they were close.

The first time I saw the part with W&H I liked it, but after playing it a few time I am convinced they should not have included W&H.

There was a lot of awkward moments,

 

[Rudolph]

Some always look for darkness in the daylight. I've never been able to understand why it threatens/irks people that William and Harry have a healthy and normal sibling relationship.

 

[SnowBirds]

Very well said, Both went through a tragic time in losing their beloved mother when so young and I bet it made them closer then ever and that has carried through time. Being neighbors in the palace I bet is such fun for them and lots of very good times that are private family times.

 

[hernameispekka]

I looked at the video a few times and saw tension between the brothers.

I think William said that because of their current schedules they do not see much of each other so his jab at Harry taking food came across as mean spirited, especially since he was trying to say they were close.

The first time I saw the part with W&H I liked it, but after playing it a few time I am convinced they should not have included W&H.

There was a lot of awkward moments,

I don't agree at all. The "being able to walk into a persons home and comfortably take stuff out of their fridge" is basically a universal messure of being close. You can't do that at an aquantance or some of your closer friends, but maybe with a best friend or such. I could definitley do that with my parents, my maternal grandparents but not with my paternal grandparents because I'm not as close to them. So I think it was a way to tell how close they actually are without revealing anything of importance. Plus, both William and Harry have a tendency to get a bit "uncomfortable" with giving each other toooo much of a compliment without getting in a (humourus) jab. So I didn't see anything wrong at all. My family takes jabs at each other all the time and we are super close. Taking jabs at a close friend or family isn't mean, it means that you know which ssubjects is okey to jab with and which are not. And those subjects are not for "outsiders" to judge, but for the person being jabbed at. And considering how much those two (plus) Kate jab at each other I think it's a clear sign of comfort between them.

 

[Skippyboo]

Harry doesn't have to do anything with William if he didn't want too. He doesn't have to share a household or a foundation. He doesn't have to do joint engagements with him or Kate. He didn't have to move from Clarence House and follow his brother to KP.

Charles doesn't do squat with his siblings. Harry could do the same if he wanted too.

I live by myself and my fridge has next to nothing in it. When I go to my friends who have families, their fridge is so full. Harry is a single guy in the middle of huge city with lots places near by to eat out. William is married to Kate who we know likes to cook plus they have a house keeper to keep everything stocked up. Why wouldn't Harry come over for food.


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[Jacknch]

I think sometimes one has to take things at face value - first impressions can be very important. So I saw the video once and came away thinking how well William and Harry get on and how funny it is that Harry raid the fridge at the Cambridge's fridge.

Naturally one could watch the video over and over again to convince oneself otherwise, but once is enough to form an impression.

 

[Dman]

They have a normal and loving brotherly relationship.

 

[Curryong]

^ I don't believe that Harry goes over to 1A and takes stuff from the Cambridges' fridge. He kept quiet during that particular anecdote of William's and said nothing. William stated first that he and Harry see a lot of each other and then contradicted himself almost immediately and said they don't now 'because of competing schedules'. So, which is it? They do see a lot of each other and Harry is constantly at their place for food/meals or...a bit of PR?

I think William hogged the conversation and tried to top what Harry was saying about their father and grandfather laughing inappropriately during school plays. William comes across as the reverse of relaxed and amusing, and I could see tension between the brothers.

A lot of posters here say they are constantly joshing and having brotherly digs at each other. Would somebody be kind enough to point out where in that short interview Harry had a dig at William? Because I can actually note at least half a dozen occasions in past few years when William has tried publicly to put Harry down while Harry has done the reverse a couple of times.

 

[cat]

^ I don't believe that Harry goes over to 1A and takes stuff from the Cambridges' fridge. He kept quiet during that particular anecdote of William's and said nothing. William stated first that he and Harry see a lot of each other and then contradicted himself almost immediately and said they don't now 'because of competing schedules'. So, which is it? They do see a lot of each other and Harry is constantly at their place for food/meals or...a bit of PR?

I think William hogged the conversation and tried to top what Harry was saying about their father and grandfather laughing inappropriately during school plays. William comes across as the reverse of relaxed and amusing, and I could see tension between the brothers.

A lot of posters here say they are constantly joshing and having brotherly digs at each other. Would somebody be kind enough to point out where in that short interview Harry had a dig at William? Because I can actually note at least half a dozen occasions in past few years when William has tried publicly to put Harry down while Harry has done the reverse a couple of times.

I agree! And and another thing,so far I didn't understand about the home of Harry, it seems that he lives of favor with the brother and sister-in-law, but he is not prince too?? he also had no right to live there (palace)? I never understood!

 

[hernameispekka]

^ I don't believe that Harry goes over to 1A and takes stuff from the Cambridges' fridge. He kept quiet during that particular anecdote of William's and said nothing. William stated first that he and Harry see a lot of each other and then contradicted himself almost immediately and said they don't now 'because of competing schedules'. So, which is it? They do see a lot of each other and Harry is constantly at their place for food/meals or...a bit of PR?

I think William hogged the conversation and tried to top what Harry was saying about their father and grandfather laughing inappropriately during school plays. William comes across as the reverse of relaxed and amusing, and I could see tension between the brothers.

A lot of posters here say they are constantly joshing and having brotherly digs at each other. Would somebody be kind enough to point out where in that short interview Harry had a dig at William? Because I can actually note at least half a dozen occasions in past few years when William has tried publicly to put Harry down while Harry has done the reverse a couple of times.

He said that they see eachother alot when they can. Meaning, they don't always have alot of time to spend together but when their schedules permit they try to see eachother.

I agree that the William story was a bit much. Not that he was pushing but because the two storys was very similar. Although, I think that can be blamed a bit on editing. I am sure both Harry and William said a few more things and they could have cut together William and Harrys parts better.

In this interview Harry didn't jab on William, but in most others he does. And even when William is not there. They both do it. They are not "putting down". They know eachother and joke about stuff they know is ok to joke about. When you know eachother well you can joke about stuff that to others might seem insensitive but because you know it's not a sore spot on the person it is fully ok. Like Harry and Kate has joked about Williams baldness, William jokes about Harry being a ginger etc. I don't see why people are making a mountain out of a molehill.

And also, so what if they were not close? Not all siblings are. Doesn't mean you don't love them and want good things for them. Just that you might be different people or in different stages of life!

 

[HRHHermione]

I agree! And and another thing,so far I didn't understand about the home of Harry, it seems that he lives of favor with the brother and sister-in-law, but he is not prince too?? he also had no right to live there (palace)? I never understood!

Harry has his own separate apartment at Kensington (Nottingham Cottage) and I've never see it implied that he "has no right to live there".

I think it was a good natured interview and don't see any of the tension or drama some of you are looking for.


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[cat]

Just the fact that William say that Harry steals food from the fridge, it seems that he lives there "favor", and I noticed Harry appeared disappointed when he heard

 

[Marty91charmed]

I still have to watch the video, so I won't comment on this until I have my perspective of things. Generally thinking, I do think that their relationship has cooled off in the past two years or so... it's just a personal feeling I get by watching them interacting.

 

[Blog Real]

I think they get along, but now William has obligations that Harry has not. William is married, raised a family, meanwhile Harry is single and has more freedom.
They previously had more time to do more things the two, now you can not do both. But I believe and do well.