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Old 02-23-2021, 07:19 PM
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As far as checking the Court Circular, the Privy Council meetings happened virtually ever since the pandemic. And so far (between 1st January 2020 and 24th February 2021), The Queen is the only Royal Family member attending the meeting.

https://www.royal.uk/court-circular?...F02%2F2021&id=
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Old 02-23-2021, 07:52 PM
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Why was it gathered in 2002?
I've tried googling it, but I just get loads of info about the Dutch equivalent.
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There is a difference between a royal being abroad to represent the monarch, even if it means living there to do that duty, and living abroad out of choice. The Duke of Gloucester was the former while Harry is the latter.

Andrew's position is clear - in the UK until there is even a criminal charge laid he is free to do the same things as any other citizen. The UK has a simple legal principle - innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. No charges have been laid against him and until there are and then he is tried and found guilty he is eligible to serve in any and all capacities as is every other person in the same situation. Even when he stepped down the palace confirmed that he was still eligible to serve as a CoS.

I doubt that the government will bother with doing anything about the CoS situation while the Queen is alive as they won't be needed. She is able to discharge all her duties, as we have seen, via technology. If she becomes incapacitated then Charles will be Regent and he is also capable of discharging all the official, constitutional duties of the monarch. The last time a CoS was even called upon was in 2002 - so even though William and Harry are eligible to serve neither have been called upon since becoming eligible (in 2003 and 2005) according to the CC.
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Old 02-23-2021, 11:30 PM
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As far as checking the Court Circular, the Privy Council meetings happened virtually ever since the pandemic. And so far (between 1st January 2020 and 24th February 2021), The Queen is the only Royal Family member attending the meeting.

https://www.royal.uk/court-circular?...F02%2F2021&id=
Other than the odd occasion when two CoSs chaired a Privy Council or when a royal was being added to the Privy Council e.g. William and Camilla a few years ago, The Queen is the only royal who does attend PC meetings. She and three or four members of the PC are all that are there.
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Old 02-23-2021, 11:51 PM
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Other than the odd occasion when two CoSs chaired a Privy Council or when a royal was being added to the Privy Council e.g. William and Camilla a few years ago, The Queen is the only royal who does attend PC meetings. She and three or four members of the PC are all that are there.
Aren't there something like 40+ people on the Privy Council at any given time? I think I read that it's a rather large number. Perhaps the Council uses specific people that are best for the issues being discussed at the time and they advise the Queen hence why she sits in on it?

Just wondering.
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Old 02-24-2021, 12:38 AM
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Aren't there something like 40+ people on the Privy Council at any given time? I think I read that it's a rather large number. Perhaps the Council uses specific people that are best for the issues being discussed at the time and they advise the Queen hence why she sits in on it?

Just wondering.
Here is a list of Privy Council members which includes partisan (Conservative, Labour, Lib Dem, Commonwealth, Other) and non-partisan (Royal Family/Household, Civil Service, Clergy, HM judiciary, Commonwealth judiciary) people. There are now more than 100 members. The reason for the large number of people is that unless they are being expelled or choose to resign, they keep their position in the Privy Council for life. It's quite rare for resignation and expulsion to happen, the only time it happened was during British parliamentary expenses scandal and members with criminal charges.

https://privycouncil.independent.gov...uncil-members/

From looking at the Court Circular, for a general Privy Council meeting with no new appointments, they are around 5 members attending. On most occasions, The Lord President and Clerk of the Council attends every meeting. You are right that the Privy Council use specific people that are best for issues being discussed. Depending on what is going to be discussed, the Secretary of State for that departments will attend the meeting.

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The Queen held a Council via video link at 2.30 p.m..

There were present: the Rt. Hon. Jacob Rees-Mogg MP (Lord President), the Rt. Hon. Dr. Thérèse Coffey MP (Secretary of State for Work and Pensions), the Rt. Hon. Dominic Raab MP (Secretary of State for Foreign, Commonwealth and Development Affairs and First Secretary of State) and the Rt. Hon. Grant Shapps MP (Secretary of State for Transport).

Mr. Richard Tilbrook was in attendance as Clerk of the Council.
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The Queen held a Council via video link at 2.30 p.m..

There were present: the Rt. Hon. Jacob Rees-Mogg MP (Lord President), the Rt. Hon. Oliver Dowden MP (Secretary of State for Digital, Culture, Media and Sport), the Rt. Hon. Brandon Lewis MP (Secretary of State for Northern Ireland) and the Rt. Hon. Gavin Williamson MP (Secretary of State for Education).

Mr. Richard Tilbrook was in attendance as Clerk of the Council.
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Old 02-24-2021, 12:55 AM
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Aren't there something like 40+ people on the Privy Council at any given time? I think I read that it's a rather large number. Perhaps the Council uses specific people that are best for the issues being discussed at the time and they advise the Queen hence why she sits in on it?

Just wondering.
There are over 600 members of the PC but only 4 - 5 attend the meetings - all members of the government, and rarely the PM who will often have his weekly audience with The Queen after the PC meeting.

e.g. On the 10th February 2021

The Queen held a Council via video link at 2.30 p.m..

There were present: the Rt. Hon. Jacob Rees-Mogg MP (Lord President), the Rt. Hon. Dr. Thérèse Coffey MP (Secretary of State for Work and Pensions), the Rt. Hon. Dominic Raab MP (Secretary of State for Foreign, Commonwealth and Development Affairs and First Secretary of State) and the Rt. Hon. Grant Shapps MP (Secretary of State for Transport).

Mr. Richard Tilbrook was in attendance as Clerk of the Council.

So 4 MPs and the Clerk of the Council and The Queen.

The only time there are more present is when a number have to take the oath after a change in government e.g. when Boris became PM and formed his first government in 2019 (25th July) and 14 members attended while an additional 5 were sworn in as members of the PC.
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I guess Princesses Beatrice and Eugenie will be eligible to serve as counselors of State sooner rather than later replacing The Duke of Edinburg and Prince Charles
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Old 03-28-2021, 09:12 PM
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The Duke of Edinburgh isn't replaced when he dies as he is a CoS due to being the consort of the monarch.

Beatrice will replace Charles when Charles becomes King - assuming that George isn't 21 by then i.e. that the Queen doesn't live for another 14+ years.

There are four CoS's based on line of succession and one based on being the spouse of the monarch. The Queen Mother was an additional CoS as the spouse of the previous monarch. When she died, in 2002, she wasn't replaced at all.
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Old 03-28-2021, 09:16 PM
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The Duke of Edinburgh isn't replaced when he dies as he is a CoS due to being the consort of the monarch.

Beatrice will replace Charles when Charles becomes King - assuming that George isn't 21 by then i.e. that the Queen doesn't live for another 14+ years.

There are four CoS's based on line of succession and one based on being the spouse of the monarch. The Queen Mother was an additional CoS as the spouse of the previous monarch. When she died, in 2002, she wasn't replaced at all.

Won't Camilla be a CoS too when Charles is king though? That way, there will still be five possible CoS's in the next reign.
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Old 03-28-2021, 09:51 PM
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Won't Camilla be a CoS too when Charles is king though? That way, there will still be five possible CoS's in the next reign.
Yes she will be but not until Charles is King so not a direct replacement for Philip.

Philip could leave us this year and the Queen live for another 10 years during which time there would only be four CoSs.

If The Queen were to leave us this year then Camilla would automatically become a CoS and Philip stop being one, unless the law was passed to allow him to continue in that role.
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