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Old 05-02-2020, 06:09 PM
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It is one those historical peculiarities. The continued existence of an English Catholic aristocracy & gentry, usually far removed from the centres of power in remote & peripheral areas, is a remarkable tale of survival. They intermarried & carried on their religious life discreetly. They became a caste within a caste. Evelyn Waugh's Brideshead Revisited is about one of these English Catholic dynasties. It wasn't until the terrible famine & the arrival of huge numbers of Irish people that the Catholic population of England grew substantially.
No Lord Marchmain's family are not catholic.. He turned Catholic to marry Lady Marchmain...
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Old 05-02-2020, 06:41 PM
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No Lord Marchmain's family are not catholic.. He turned Catholic to marry Lady Marchmain...
Yes I know but it's a well known description of an English catholic aristocratic family. That could have been made clearer but there are many examples of continuous catholic dynasties of course not just the Howards.
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Old 08-27-2020, 04:51 AM
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The joint coronation of King Richard III and Queen Anne Neville on July 6, 1483 was a first in 175 years.
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Old 11-21-2020, 04:48 PM
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Thinking about the coronations of previous Kings and Queens.

King Edward VII
King George V
King George VI
Queen Elizabeth II






Is Charles going to get the same big Coronation?
Is William going to?

Or, is this long in the past? So now, the same sort of ceremony as with European Monarchy?
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While the monarch of the UK is also the Supreme Governor of the Church of England they will have a coronation with a religious aspect as this ceremony isn't just about crowing a monarch but investing a new Supreme Governor of the CoE.

I doubt that it will ever again be on the scale of Elizabeth's but it will still be a large event.
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Old 11-22-2020, 12:38 AM
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The first segment, on Edward VII, is a re-creation using actors. The film maker was denied permission to film the actual Coronation in The Abbey.
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Old 11-22-2020, 04:59 PM
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While the monarch of the UK is also the Supreme Governor of the Church of England they will have a coronation with a religious aspect as this ceremony isn't just about crowing a monarch but investing a new Supreme Governor of the CoE.

I doubt that it will ever again be on the scale of Elizabeth's but it will still be a large event.
I am also of that opinion. There will be a coronation, not on the Elizabeth II scale, but it will exist.
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Old 11-22-2020, 05:49 PM
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The Coronation of Queen Mary I on October 1st 1553 was the last Catholic English Coronation.

The Coronation of the Catholic King James II and Queen Mary in April 1685 was a Protestant Ceremony, though I think he also had a private Catholic ceremony one at the chapel at Whitehall.

The Coronation of Mary Queen of Scots on September 9th 1543 at Stirling Castle chapel was the last Scottish Roman Catholic ceremony.
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Old 11-25-2020, 03:12 PM
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The Coronation of the Catholic King James II and Queen Mary in April 1685 was a Protestant Ceremony, though I think he also had a private Catholic ceremony one at the chapel at Whitehall.
That I didn't know. Very interesting that James had an RC chapel built inside Whitehall.
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Old 11-25-2020, 03:25 PM
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That I didn't know. Very interesting that James had an RC chapel built inside Whitehall.
Which caused much controversy during that fiercely anti Catholic period.
The chapel was designed by Sir Christopher Wren and constructed between 1685 & 1687,it was destroyed by fire in 1698.
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Old 11-25-2020, 03:29 PM
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Which caused much controversy during that fiercely anti Catholic period.
The chapel was designed by Sir Christopher Wren and constructed between 1685 & 1687,it was destroyed by fire in 1698.
Yes a great loss. It would have been marvelous if the palace had survived. The banqueting house looks rather forlorn today.
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Princess Margaret wore Queen Maud of Norway purple velvet ( nos royaux norvegiens)
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