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Old 11-14-2019, 05:11 PM
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Personally I wouldn't be surprised if Charles moves Christmas to Windsor in time.

Will be interesting to see what Eugenie does this year, she and Jack attended Sandringham last year.
I have a feeling you could be right. Christmas always used to be at Windsor and it was only when the castle was being revamped in the late '80s that the BRF moved to Sandringham. Charles and his siblings spent many Christmasses at Windsor as children so the castle probably has fond memories for them (it would also be a bigger capacity for the amount of people staying the night, I'd think).
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Old 11-14-2019, 05:22 PM
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without going too off topic it seems to me that it would be easier for everyone as they could all go off to their own houses after and there is probably more room for everyone. Just my opinion. Who knows and hopefully we don't find out anytime soon. Anyway we are getting off topic.

I dread to think how much christmas ends up costing HM, everyone at Sandringham, the wider family at BP lunch, presents etc.
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Old 11-14-2019, 07:29 PM
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I have a feeling you could be right. Christmas always used to be at Windsor and it was only when the castle was being revamped in the late '80s that the BRF moved to Sandringham. Charles and his siblings spent many Christmasses at Windsor as children so the castle probably has fond memories for them (it would also be a bigger capacity for the amount of people staying the night, I'd think).

At Windsor or Balmoral makes far more sense. If they continue to have the huge family Christmas after the queen passes, with Charles' siblings and their kids.

The party out grew Sandringham long ago. They are often crowded in the home we have heard stories. The home is certainly not that large. And besides Wood Farm, there is only Amner Hall for space.

Windsor has guest bedrooms for spades. As well as the practical fact that Harry/Meghan, the Wessexes and Yorks all live at Windsor and wouldn't need to have housing provided for the holidays either.

Windsor though isn't that private. If they want a more homely feel, and to get away for Christmas, Balmoral would be perfect. The main home is massive. Then there are also Birkhall, Craigowan and the cottage that William has up there to house people.

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Is it easier? I think it is unfair to expect her mother to come to them when they have the means and time to go to her. Maybe she didn't want to travel to London. I wouldn't blame her to want to be home, if that is where they are. Who knows but nice they will all be together. Doria shouldn't have to be forced to be around the royals to see her child and grandchild.

As for the future? I also wonder if this will continue on. Who knows what Charles will want.

I expect everyone will be around for this. Probably will see the debut of the Cambridge kids as well. That would be a treat.
Yes it is easier. One single woman traveling is always easier then putting a baby on a long flight. Royal or commoner, flying with babies is never simple.

Then there is logistics of housing them. And all the security that goes with them as well. Harry and Meghan are not simple in laws.

No one is forcing Doria to come to England. Nor to 'be around royals to be with her grandson'. The only royals who would be at FC would be her son in law and grandson (well her daughter by marriage).
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Old 11-15-2019, 12:27 PM
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I have a feeling you could be right. Christmas always used to be at Windsor and it was only when the castle was being revamped in the late '80s that the BRF moved to Sandringham. Charles and his siblings spent many Christmasses at Windsor as children so the castle probably has fond memories for them (it would also be a bigger capacity for the amount of people staying the night, I'd think).
I think Charles may do a big pre-Christmas lunch or dinner for the extended family, similar to what’s done now, but I don’t see him continuing the tradition of the extended family, or even his own immediate family, having a huge gathering in Scotland, at Windsor or wherever over Christmas itself. I can actually see Charles wanting to spend Christmas in his own home with Camilla, with various family members being welcome to come for visits, (not necessarily overnight stays), as they wish.

Regarding Harry and Meghan’s plans, I’m sure the Queen enjoys having family around at Christmas, but I don’t think the get together has ever been a command performance even for her own children, let alone grandchildren and more extended family. I seriously doubt she gives two hoots about where her adult grandson and his family spend Christmas! Also, QEII herself grew up with very strong ties to her maternal, non royal family so she likely sees the value in her grandchildren and great grandchildren doing the same.

I’m not sure there needed to be a formal statement put out regarding The Sussex’s Christmas plans. The press, not to mention the internet, won’t stop talking about their absence in December just because of a statement. But now they’re all talking in November, as well. To me it seems that by putting out a statement, instead of just quietly doing what they wanted, they’ve handed the media more material to work with.
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Old 11-15-2019, 12:54 PM
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to me, it is irrelevant where H&M chose to spend xmas and there was no need for them to communicate on it from my perspective. we already knew they would take some months off from the (self created) media drama they got themselves into, so i am sure no one expected them with the royals during xmas anyway.

i am excited to see who shows up this year. W&K have not been to spend xmas with kate's family in a while, i wonder if they will do so next year again, as they only did it once or twice.
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Old 11-15-2019, 04:59 PM
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I think Charles may do a big pre-Christmas lunch or dinner for the extended family, similar to what’s done now, but I don’t see him continuing the tradition of the extended family, or even his own immediate family, having a huge gathering in Scotland, at Windsor or wherever over Christmas itself. I can actually see Charles wanting to spend Christmas in his own home with Camilla, with various family members being welcome to come for visits, (not necessarily overnight stays), as they wish.
I don't know; Charles is friendly with the Chattos which suggests he socialises with the extended royals beyond group engagements/events like Trooping, so he may want to continue the big family Christmas. Of course, his friendship with one extended family member doesn't account for the whole of the extended family. It'll be interesting to see how Charles will do things indeed.
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Old 11-15-2019, 10:40 PM
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I dread to think how much christmas ends up costing HM, everyone at Sandringham, the wider family at BP lunch, presents etc.
The Royal family gives each other cheap and funny presents so that part doesn't set them back that much.
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Old 11-15-2019, 11:42 PM
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to me, it is irrelevant where H&M chose to spend xmas and there was no need for them to communicate on it from my perspective. we already knew they would take some months off from the (self created) media drama they got themselves into, so i am sure no one expected them with the royals during xmas anyway.

i am excited to see who shows up this year. W&K have not been to spend xmas with kate's family in a while, i wonder if they will do so next year again, as they only did it once or twice.
They have done it twice. The last was the Christmas before Pippa got married.

But the difference is, they spend Christmas with the Middletons either way. They have the benefit of having Amner hall and being able to host the Middletons up at Sandringham. So even Christmases that they are with the queen for Christmas eve, they spend part of it with Kate's family as well.

Since James is engaged, I wonder if we will have a replay of Pippa engagement Christmas.
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Old 11-18-2019, 11:15 AM
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I’m not sure there needed to be a formal statement put out regarding The Sussex’s Christmas plans. The press, not to mention the internet, won’t stop talking about their absence in December just because of a statement. But now they’re all talking in November, as well. To me it seems that by putting out a statement, instead of just quietly doing what they wanted, they’ve handed the media more material to work with.
It seems like a thing with them - sometimes in hope of getting ahead of the story what happens is that they're creating a story, unfortunately.

Also, Christmas, finally! I think it's my favourite time of the year, BRF always comes swinging. The lunch at BP, Christmas cards, Sandringham, Christmas broadcast, and all celebrated in such a joyous and lighthearted way.

I'd love to see the Cambridges at Sandringham this year, but if they decide to spend them with the Middletons it's all okay in my book.
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Old 11-18-2019, 12:34 PM
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I am also hopeful that we will see the Cambridge family in Sandringham.

It seems Prince William is mindful his grandparents are not getting any younger. So I hope they will continue to balance their Christmas time by being there (with Middleton at Anmer with them).

Pippa also seem very close to her in-laws. Even James with Pippa's husband family. So I imagine there is a lot of discussions on who is going to be spending Xmas where. They all seem so close which is a great thing but it's such a dilemma during holiday season.
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Old 11-18-2019, 03:41 PM
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to me, it is irrelevant where H&M chose to spend xmas and there was no need for them to communicate on it from my perspective. we already knew they would take some months off from the (self created) media drama they got themselves into, so i am sure no one expected them with the royals during xmas anyway.

i am excited to see who shows up this year. W&K have not been to spend xmas with kate's family in a while, i wonder if they will do so next year again, as they only did it once or twice.
It's because the British media and some others make a big issue out of everything this couple does. There was already a lot of speculation going on and they (BP) were probably getting a lot of questions. Better to answer them now and get it out of the way rather than them just not show up during the Christmas walk about the media and rumors going out of control.

I hope the Sussexes have a peaceful and relaxing Thanksgiving/Christmas with Meghan's mom who hasn't been able to share a Christmas with her daughter in 2+ years. I also hope that Doria gets a lot of cuddle time with Archie her only grandchild and his only living grandmother.

I hope the rest of the royal family is able to enjoy their Christmas as well.
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Old 12-04-2019, 06:35 PM
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Do you think that Prince Andrew will attend Christmas at Sandringham?
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Old 12-04-2019, 06:46 PM
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Part of me hopes in some ways he decides to spend it at his and Sarah's Swiss chalet. I just think HM needs a break from all the drama.

That said I do think he will probably be there, whether he attends the public church service remains to be seen.

Anyway, probably off topic!

I bet HM can't wait to get on that train to Norfolk for a break!
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Old 12-04-2019, 08:09 PM
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Do you think that Prince Andrew will attend Christmas at Sandringham?
I would love to see Beatrice and Eugenie, but I sincerely hope Andrew and Sarah will hightail it to Switzerland this year.

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Old 12-04-2019, 09:31 PM
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Andrew could end up doing what the extended family does, and just attend the Christmas lunch in London. Celebrate with his family then. And then head to Switzerland or just stay low in the UK.

I think it may depend on how the girls decide to spend Christmas. The Yorks are extremely close unit. If Eugenie and Beatrice are at Sandringham I can see Andrew going to be with them.

The only way we will know he is at Sandringham, IMO, is if we see his arrival. To avoid the press for his family sake, I don't see him doing the church walk.

They may decide to do a family Christmas instead either at Royal or in Switzerland. Beatrice and Edo may play into the decision as well. This is the first time in the royal family there has been a stepchild to consider (well a juvenile one, as Camilla's kids are adults).

One thing I could see perhaps:

-Wolfie is with his mom Christmas eve
-The Yorks spend Christmas eve at Sandringham
-Andrew/Sarah leave in the morning, the girls/husband/fiance after church
-Edo and Beatrice get Wolfie and either join the family at Royal, or they all head off to Switzerland

I could see them staying at Royal Lodge for the remainder of Christmas and heading to Switzerland for New years.
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Old 12-05-2019, 02:09 AM
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Well if protesters weren’t thinking it before they will be now. Looking less likely he will attend IMO even if this is made up it will push the Household to act
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Old 12-05-2019, 02:49 AM
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Well if protesters weren’t thinking it before they will be now. Looking less likely he will attend IMO even if this is made up it will push the Household to act
Of course its made up. Actual staff of the palace high up enough to have knowledge, wouldn't be talking. Its the usual 'sources' or 'insiders' who are 'understood to think'. DM covering their butts with their fake stories.

The queen is not going to invite or uninvite anyone to Christmas based on the dribble the DM posts.

Its highly likely Andrew will Choose not to do the church walk. But not because he is banished, or his mother is pressured. But to save the family the talk.
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Old 12-05-2019, 03:41 AM
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I don't expect to see the Duke of York walking to church this Christmas day and we may not see his daughters either,which would be a shame.
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Old 12-05-2019, 03:42 AM
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Andrew will make news either ways.. If he attends or not attends church.. I wonder is there risk of him getting heckled during the walk? I remembered a similar thing to Christina of Spain at a court hall.. Otherwise it won't make a difference either ways..
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Old 12-05-2019, 04:09 AM
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Christmas Day is the second most important Religious Feast on the Christian calendar after Easter and The Duke of York attending a church Service in full public view would be too much to stomach for many.
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