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Old 11-14-2019, 08:58 AM
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Yes Sophie, so do I. Go somewhere nice, warm and relaxing, away from negativity and nay sayers.
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Old 11-14-2019, 09:10 AM
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I hope they go to a nice log cabin in Colorado. Decorate the tree. Sit by the fireplace and sip on a nice mug of thick hot chocolate topped with homemade sweetened whipped cream and chocolate chip cookie placed on the top.
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Old 11-14-2019, 09:44 AM
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One thing I have always wondered over the years is how many times has the Queen, herself, wished that she could do away with all the celebrations and entertaining at Sandringham and enjoy Christmas with just herself and Philip around the fireplace at Wood Farm sipping hot cider and wearing comfortable slippers all day and having dinner on trays in front of the television for the Queen's Christmas message.

So many times traditions in a family seem to be so set in stone that it would be unthinkable to celebrate any other way. It loses its magic and its allure after years and years of doing things exactly the same way and, as we've seen, if someone chooses not to attend the "family get together", its a reason for pearl clutching and rumors of wars start.

Over the years, with our children grown and have children and grandchildren of their own and separated by many, many miles along with the fact that we do not celebrate Christmas here, I've come to appreciate discarding what sometimes ended up feeling like a "chore" and "required gifting" to enjoying a quiet day at home with a turkey (for dinner that is... not my hubby), a glass or two of wine and enjoying the winter season at our leisure.

This year I'm going to be especially grateful while preparing the turkey with all the trimmings because I do have my husband here to share it with. I could have lost him over the past year to bladder cancer and thankfully he'll be here with me, cracking jokes about the turkey like he does every time I make a turkey but he'll be doing it cancer free. This kind of thing means so much more to me than following any "tradition" or living up to any kind of "expectations" and I guess I apply that kind of thinking to everyone's holiday. Even the Windsors. I just wish people would let them be to enjoy and celebrate the way they choose to without applying any kind of drama to it and enjoy their freedom to celebrate in any way they choose to.
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Old 11-14-2019, 09:48 AM
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I hope that Baby Archie's first Christmas is going to be special - more Archie themed.
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Old 11-14-2019, 10:07 AM
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I've wondered if when Charles is King he will keep the Sandringham Christmas thing going...or if he will do it elsewhere with a small group of family.



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Old 11-14-2019, 10:16 AM
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I've wondered if when Charles is King he will keep the Sandringham Christmas thing going...or if he will do it elsewhere with a small group of family.



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He seems to love Scotland, but my guess is that he will keep the Sandringham Christmas going, but perhaps decamp to Balmoral sometime in the new year.
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Old 11-14-2019, 12:05 PM
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Old 11-14-2019, 01:11 PM
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The Sussex's plans for Christmas this year were probably decided upon months ago with the knowledge and approval of the Queen It is only now that the media has found out about it that it has become fodder for their typical and not very subtle spin on how the two treat the royal family.
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Old 11-14-2019, 01:21 PM
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I’m guessing we’ll be getting some holiday pics from the Cambridge and Sussex family.
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Old 11-14-2019, 01:24 PM
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It's because they know that the media will try to claim they are breaking protocol and ignore the fact that William (a future king) has forgone Christmases at Sandringham to spend time with his in-laws.
It was smart of the Sussexes to point it out because it stops any debate about protocol, etc.

I will add that the debate surrounding where members of the BRF spend Christmas isn't new though. When William and Kate decided not to spend Christmas at Sandringham, the media accused them of breaking protocol and snubbing the Queen (there was also some fierce debate about it on this forum). So if the media had accused the Sussexes of this, they would just be recycling their own headlines.

I’ve never had a problem with the Cambridges spending Christmas with the Middletons and I don’t see the problem with the Sussexes spending time with Meghan's family. Meghan spent the last 2 Christmases with the BRF, so she should be able to spend this year with her mother. I’m sure they are both excited to have this time together.
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Old 11-14-2019, 02:14 PM
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It was smart of the Sussexes to point it out because it stops any debate about protocol, etc.

I will add that the debate surrounding where members of the BRF spend Christmas isn't new though. When William and Kate decided not to spend Christmas at Sandringham, the media accused them of breaking protocol and snubbing the Queen (there was also some fierce debate about it on this forum). So if the media had accused the Sussexes of this, they would just be recycling their own headlines.

I’ve never had a problem with the Cambridges spending Christmas with the Middletons and I don’t see the problem with the Sussexes spending time with Meghan's family. Meghan spent the last 2 Christmases with the BRF, so I’m sure she is excited about being able to have this time with her mother.

Like you soapstar I have never had an issue with the Cambridges, Phillips, Tindalls etc..spending Christmas away from Sandringham. I'm just so pleased that this generation of the BRF have the flexibility to do so which was something their parents' generation didn't have.
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Old 11-14-2019, 02:21 PM
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So true. I always found it sad that those who married into the BRF, couldn’t have Christmas with their families. I’m glad that the rules have been relaxed.

I wonder if the Cambridges will be with the Middletons this year? When do we usually find out who will be at Sandringham?
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Old 11-14-2019, 02:30 PM
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I think the Cambridges actually have a very workable solution to be with both sides of the family for the holidays. With having their own home at Amner Hall on the Sandringham estate, the Middleton family can come spend the holidays there and the Cambridges still can participate in the festivities at the Big House and attend church services Christmas morning with the BRF. We've seen where the Middletons attended Christmas morning services but were not grouped with the royal family on the traditional walk to church.

With Harry and Meghan, its not as easy as Doria lives thousands of miles away in Los Angeles and the Sussexes do not have a residence near Sandringham. It does make me feel good though to see that both sides of families are being seen as equally important when it comes to important days and holidays in the family's life.

No matter who they spend Christmas with, its going to be a memorable one for little Archie as he experiences the "magic" of Christmas for the very first time.
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Old 11-14-2019, 03:36 PM
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I agree. I keep seeing comments like "Doria should just come to the UK" and I wonder why this thought? She shouldn't have to uproot herself in order to spend time with her family. I am glad they are apparently going to her. Archie is her only grandchild. She is just as important as any of the Windsors and I am glad they are treating her as such.
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Old 11-14-2019, 03:49 PM
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I agree. I keep seeing comments like "Doria should just come to the UK" and I wonder why this thought? She shouldn't have to uproot herself in order to spend time with her family. I am glad they are apparently going to her. Archie is her only grandchild. She is just as important as any of the Windsors and I am glad they are treating her as such.
I see one very practical reason. Much easier for Doria to come to them. Archie may still be an easy baby but once babies begin to move they usually don't want to be held long. They could also just decide to meet somewhere. In any case I hope they all have a wonderful time and enjoy Archie.
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Old 11-14-2019, 04:03 PM
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Meghan probably just wants to be at home in the US for the holidays with her family and her American customs which Harry must get accustomed to that as well.
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Old 11-14-2019, 04:03 PM
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I hope they go to a nice log cabin in Colorado. Decorate the tree. Sit by the fireplace and sip on a nice mug of thick hot chocolate topped with homemade sweetened whipped cream and chocolate chip cookie placed on the top.
That sounds good to me. Just Add GlamMa Doria to the mix.
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Old 11-14-2019, 04:24 PM
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I've wondered if when Charles is King he will keep the Sandringham Christmas thing going...or if he will do it elsewhere with a small group of family.



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Or perhaps a larger group to include Camilla’s children & their families. I’m more curious about how Beatrice & Eugenie will handle Christmas going forward, they’ve always gone to Sandringham, but with in laws to factor in things might change even while the Queen is still with us. I believe the Queen has hosted her niece/nephew for Christmas through the years, I wonder if Charles will host his as well.
Regarding Christmas in Southern California, I’m a native Californian (albeit more northern) but have spent the holidays visiting Southern California and it doesn’t feel very ‘christmasy’ to me in SoCal - it’s so warm usually. If I were Doria I’d love to spend time at FC enjoying the traditions of a British holiday.
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Old 11-14-2019, 04:40 PM
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Personally I wouldn't be surprised if Charles moves Christmas to Windsor in time.

Will be interesting to see what Eugenie does this year, she and Jack attended Sandringham last year.
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I see one very practical reason. Much easier for Doria to come to them. Archie may still be an easy baby but once babies begin to move they usually don't want to be held long. They could also just decide to meet somewhere. In any case I hope they all have a wonderful time and enjoy Archie.
Is it easier? I think it is unfair to expect her mother to come to them when they have the means and time to go to her. Maybe she didn't want to travel to London. I wouldn't blame her to want to be home, if that is where they are. Who knows but nice they will all be together. Doria shouldn't have to be forced to be around the royals to see her child and grandchild.

As for the future? I also wonder if this will continue on. Who knows what Charles will want.

I expect everyone will be around for this. Probably will see the debut of the Cambridge kids as well. That would be a treat.
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