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Old 12-25-2018, 01:07 PM
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I've read it in several books and articles printed. Most people see it as the Queen staying at Sandringham until her Accession day.

Sandringham has always held a special place in the hearts of the British royal family and the Queen has spent every Christmas there since she succeeded her father in 1952.

https://metro.co.uk/2018/12/25/insid...-1952-8274425/
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Old 12-25-2018, 02:01 PM
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I was trying to figure out who left with the queen in the car,but I guess it was Princess Beatrice.

Hope the Duchess of Cornwall gets better soon missed her there today.
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Old 12-25-2018, 02:20 PM
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I think its because Sandringham at Christmastime is something that the Queen holds dear to her heart. She spent Christmas there with her parents and family and to her, it seems like "home for the holidays".

One tidbit that reinforces this opinion for me is that the Queen stays at Sandringham until February 6th, the anniversary of her father's death.
I wonder if it is also in part because they use Windsor most weekends so it would just feel like every other weekend. Or maybe the Queen would feel obliged to invite the wider family for Christmas as she use to.
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Old 12-25-2018, 02:34 PM
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I think the difference may be that the Queen may feel that when she's at Windsor (which she loves), she's living in the residence of the monarch. When she's in residence at either Sandringham or Balmoral, she is truly in her own home bought and paid for by her father from the abdicating Edward VIII.

Philip has also been said to really love Sandringham and has spent many, many happy hours on projects and managing the estate.

The privacy at Sandringham is also a big draw, I believe. Especially at Christmastime. Its a place where the family can just be a family without any outside interference from the public. This is why the traditional walk to church on Christmas morning has so much appeal. Other than that, we have absolutely no clue what is going on.
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Old 12-25-2018, 02:35 PM
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I still don't see why the RF wants to crowd everyone in at Sandringham, when there's lots more room at Windsor.
Apparently not. Most of Windsor is made up of housing for officials and their families and the Royal Collection (ie the whole of the Round Tower plus elsewhere). They moved from Windsor to Sandringham because Windsor wasn't big enough ( source various biographies and media reports)

I don't make the connection with Accession day because she did used to stay at Windsor.
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Old 12-25-2018, 02:48 PM
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I was trying to figure out who left with the queen in the car,but I guess it was Princess Beatrice.

Hope the Duchess of Cornwall gets better soon missed her there today.
In the video upthread you can see the Queen leaving church followed by Charles and the rest of the family. Her car glides up and Andrew makes his way through the family and then Beatrice gets in the back seat next to her grandmother and Andrew gets in the front next to the driver.
I haven’t seen a video or photo of the Queen’s arrival, but it’s reported that Andrew rode to church with the Queen. We saw both York princesses walking to the church but did not see their father.
Cute that we saw Peter’s daughters collecting flowers this year. And Lady Louise has grown quite a bit in the last year!
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Old 12-25-2018, 02:49 PM
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Tim Laurence bows his head (I think Jack does was well), so I’m not sure the bowing/curtseying tells us anything at all about where Meghan and Harry are staying.
It doesn’t. The curtsies and bows are just common courtesy to the Monarch upon arrival and departure.
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Old 12-25-2018, 03:13 PM
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Apparently not. Most of Windsor is made up of housing for officials and their families and the Royal Collection (ie the whole of the Round Tower plus elsewhere). They moved from Windsor to Sandringham because Windsor wasn't big enough ( source various biographies and media reports)

I don't make the connection with Accession day because she did used to stay at Windsor.
I'm going from memory here rather than evidence so I could be wrong but when they had their Christmas at Windsor, I think they used to go to Sandringham for New Year & stay there for a month or so.
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Old 12-25-2018, 03:37 PM
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I'm going from memory here rather than evidence so I could be wrong but when they had their Christmas at Windsor, I think they used to go to Sandringham for New Year & stay there for a month or so.
Winter hunting was quite popular with the British royals. In fact, in order to extend the daylight hours for this past time, King Edward VII declared the estate to be on Sandringham Time which corresponds to UTC+0:30, and was used from 1901 to 1936. Its not the only quirky thing I've read about Sandringham.

To this day, if you're driving on the estate, you'll see the speed limit posted as 38. Why? Philip figures that its a number that's so unexpected that people pay attention to it.

Sandringham has been a huge favorite of monarchs for generations so it doesn't surprise me that the Queen made it *the* place for Christmas celebrations. Just as Windsor is for Easter and her summer sojourn is to Balmoral in the highlands of Scotland.
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Old 12-25-2018, 04:05 PM
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My! Autumn Philips looks so very chic!

Everyone seemed in festive spirits for the BRF. Lovely to take a breather from the family to check in here lol.

Merry Christmas!
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Tim Laurence bows his head (I think Jack does was well), so I’m not sure the bowing/curtseying tells us anything at all about where Meghan and Harry are staying.
I don’t think it’s a bow from Jack. It looked like Eugenie said something after the Queen left and he leaned down. If that was a bow, he was way late.
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Old 12-25-2018, 04:12 PM
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I'm going from memory here rather than evidence so I could be wrong but when they had their Christmas at Windsor, I think they used to go to Sandringham for New Year & stay there for a month or so.
Just did a google search and as a pre 1988 example, in 1985 they had Christmas at Windsor & by 29th Dec they were at Sandringham so I think my memory of the split holiday might be right.
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Old 12-25-2018, 04:13 PM
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Anyone find pictures yet of the early morning Communion service? Last year we had some about 4 hours before this. I've checked Getty just now, again. And nothing added to the DM yet either.
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Old 12-25-2018, 04:29 PM
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Everywhere I have seen says they were staying at Sandringham with the Queen and its been suggested part of the reason they stayed at Anmer last year was because they were unmarried and the Queen doesn't usually have unmarried couples staying for Christmas so it would have created an unfair precedent.

It was nice to see Kate and Anne chatting away as they left church.
I think Anne looked particularly lovely this year. It looked like she had on brown boots with her blue. I love that color combo.
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Old 12-25-2018, 04:32 PM
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Anyone find pictures yet of the early morning Communion service? Last year we had some about 4 hours before this. I've checked Getty just now, again. And nothing added to the DM yet either.
I wondered about that after checking early this morning for the usual pics and bot seeing then anywhere. Maybe the RF and / or police clamped down and wouldn’t let anybody near.
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Old 12-25-2018, 04:41 PM
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I wondered about that after checking early this morning for the usual pics and bot seeing then anywhere. Maybe the RF and / or police clamped down and wouldn’t let anybody near.
I know we got them earlier last year. But I always believed that was because they were outing Bea/Eug (I forget which) in trainers for the early service. They led with a story about "athletic shoes for Christmas." If you look back at this thread - we got a bit confused by that in 2017.

But when I think about other years, there is a big lapse until the early morning snaps come out?

It is actually my more favorite set of photos. Because it is family rather than family on show. JMO, though. It's all nice to see.
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Old 12-25-2018, 05:00 PM
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I don’t think it’s a bow from Jack. It looked like Eugenie said something after the Queen left and he leaned down. If that was a bow, he was way late.

Jack was definitely bowing, but he was late. At his wedding, he bowed early. He is clearly still learning the ropes.
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Old 12-25-2018, 05:07 PM
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All the family looked lovely. Meghan in navy, Catherine in red, and the Queens coat in some light looks like a very pale lilac.
I agree Sndral, Lady Louise has grown quite tall. Her little brother needs a warm coat he looks cold.
Only 29 bedrooms at Sandringham, so depending how many are staying, then I expect Harry and Meghan would stay at Anmer. Especially as I don't believe there is any problem between the couples.
I worry that Camilla is unwell again, hope she recovers soon. Nothing worse than a nasty head cold.
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Old 12-25-2018, 05:12 PM
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We didn’t see Earl Snowdon nor Lady Sarah Chatto and their families so compared to usual there is more room
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Old 12-25-2018, 05:13 PM
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I wondered about that after checking early this morning for the usual pics and bot seeing then anywhere. Maybe the RF and / or police clamped down and wouldn’t let anybody near.
The crowds were starting to assemble around 4.00 am and SkyNews was reporting from there before the first service but they didn't have any coverage - just a reporter who was asking people why they were there and how early they arrived etc. She did mention that they 'were expected for communion' and then an hour or so later 'they had left from the service' but still all they showed was the gathering crowd - and the crowd was right down to the church.

It is strange that no pictures have come out of that first service but there were certainly people there when it was happening, as well as TV crews.
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