Villa Eikenhorst & Estate 'De Horsten', Wassenaar

[sgl]

Originally Posted by marmi

I feel exactly the same....
Feel that I am prying but just so curious to see how Maxima has chosen to decorate her home...

I agree. My curiosity is piqued. I would imagine the house to have bright colors throughout. Maxima has such a bright personality, and I imagine that her home would reflect this.

[marmi]

I hope so, sgl, otherwise I dont think that it wouldnt feel right. To me, at any rate...

[ashelen]

I saw 2 photos, and sorry I can not remeber where, once was of Alexia, in her birhtday with some tradtional outfit , and it looks in hr house, very regal pleace but with a very modern paiting that I presume could be her sisters, too modern for my taste I did not like it, other photos with 2 of the girls on the floor playing like in the dinning room, what i remeber a formal seat but all a kind of difuse so you could not see much the background! but may be somebody in the forum has some photos t share!

[Marengo]

There was a small operette about 3 farms on the Horsten estate. Newspaper ' Volkskrant' published recently that the prince wanted to demolish 3 farms with an historical value, build new houses and exploit it commercially.

Now, the RVD wrote a response and the newspaper seems to have done some very bad journalism. Among other things, the houses are no monuments at all, there are no plans to demolish them yet, the estate is property of HM the Queen, and I believe the houses are of one of the Queen's sisters. There was a plan how to make the estate break-even. Considering the number of mistakes in the article, it makes you wonder about the state of Dutch press (as VK is considered to be one of the quality newspapers).

Good that the RVD corrects it IMHO (I hope they will do it more often in the future), but I have to say that the way they did it doesn't win any beauty peagants. It seems patronising to write in somebody else's text, and the style of the whole things makes you wonder if the piece has been written by a high school student, or a junior intern at the very best:

http://content1c.omroep.nl/7a3adfa37...volkskrant.pdf

And perhaps somebody can reveal to the RVD that it is possible to change documents to pdf format, so people can not change the content (they are warning for that,before they start correcting the article).

Another thing is, that although the RVD corrcted many mistakes, not much/nothing was published in the press about it. Perhaps next time an open letter to the editor would ensure more exposure (as a way to correct lies).


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A clip of the RVD, where they explain the reason why the RF is looking for ways to make the estate make break-even

http://www.koninklijkhuis.nl/Actueel...mber_2010.html

[Marengo]

Some more pictures of the estate, with pictures of the houses where prince Floris and princess Margarita will live respectively:

Achtergronden Royalblog.nl: Op landgoed De Horsten ontstaat een oranjedorp

According to the blog, prince Floris was truying to buy the property for 4 years.

[Marengo]

The procedure to demolish two farms at the Horsten estate has to been done all over again. Officialy because the municipalty of Wassenaar made some mistakes during the 1st procedure (when they gave permission to demolish the farms):

Procedure boerderijen De Horsten moet over - Koninklijk huis - Reformatorisch Dagblad

[Marengo]

Last week it became clear that prince Pieter-Christiaan and princess Anita also have plan to move to the estate, provided they get the right building permits.

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And an update on the 'historic' farms: they are filled with asbestos. The farm on Eikenhorst 3 has 600 m2 of asbestos and the farm on raaphorst 5 has 200 m2 of asbestos. This was revealed by the Volkskrant, a newspaper that has a row with the RVD about their reports on the estate. According to the RVD it is 'old news'.

Asbest hindert sloop boerderijen De Horsten - Binnenland - VK

So even if they get the license to demolish the buildings it will be a slow and expensive affair to remove the asbestos.

Another small fight: the RVD denies that there are already official plans about what to build on the location of the farms, Leo Dubbelaar, of an organization that wants to preserve the 'historic' farms claims that there is such a plan and that he will find it.

Sigh.

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And on monday the RVD published the first paper of the file in which the royal family asks permission to demolish the farms:

http://www.koninklijkhuis.nl/dsc8bb3...t=document.pdf

This happened due to the row with the Volkskrant. De newspaper stated that the prince of Orange asked for the demolishment, but the file states B.W.A. van Oranje-Nassau (B.W.A. = Beatrix Wilhelmina Armgard). The RVD already pointed this out and also added that the estate is property of the Queen, not of the prince.

[Marengo]

A 'tweet' by the RVD: 'will the Volkskrant finally stop publishing false information? Not the prince but the Queen asked for the documents'.
http://www.volkskrant.nl/static/FOTO...20101109081113

- now the Volkskrant replies that they never said that the Prince asked for these papers, BUT that the prince actually has spoken with the mayor of Wassenaar about demolishing the farms.

I didn't agree the first time that the RVD openly attacked the Volkskrant and I do not like it this second time either. It is not their task to get caught up in a fight (or even cause it, as is the case here), and it seems rather childish namecalling. Added to that, the tweet seems again to be written by an intern or so. Although everybody writes 'info' instead of information/informatie, I don't think an official institute like the royal house/RVD should do that.

[Marengo]

According to the 'Leidsch Dagblad' a hiking trail at the Horsten estate will be changed. At the moment the trail is close to the new house of Princess Margarita of Bourbon-Parma and her husband. It will be changed to give the family some more privacy.

The princess followed the normal procedure with the municipalty of Wassenaar for this btw.
LD - Prinses Margarita krijgt privacy van gemeente Wassenaar

Courtesy: Martin T. at the BRMB.

[Josefine]

how large is the estate

[lucien]

Originally Posted by Josefine

how large is the estate

415 Hectares of undivided forests,dunes,farmground and,ofcourse,farms and houses.So it is quite large.The Horsten estate is private property of the Monarch.

More info here:

The Dutch Royal House

[Josefine]

thank you

how many family lives at the estate?

[lucien]

Originally Posted by Josefine

thank you

how many family lives at the estate?

Besides the "civilians" of which their are a lot,there's the Prince of Orange and his family,Princess Margarita and Tjalling and theirs,Prince P-C and his,Prince Floris and his and I'm sure a few more will be added in due time.

Do they live close to eachother?Some do,some don't,depends...
Do they pop-in and out at regular intervals?Yes,they do..

Besides Jo,there already is more then enough info on anything anywhere in this Forum,you just have to look it up....

[Marengo]

There was a public hearing of the Cuypersgenootschap & the counsil of Wassenaar yesterday:

Stichting slijpt messen over boerderijen op De Horsten - Achtergronden ROYALBLOG.NL

The secretary of the association, Leo Dubbelaar, was the only speaker and he accused the city of Wassenaar to be too impressed by the 'high owner' of the estate (the Queen) etc. etc. And he stuck to his plea that the asbestos-filled farms from the 50-ties have an historic value. Even the local press didn't seem too interested according to the article.

[lucien]

Originally Posted by Marengo

There was a public hearing of the Cuypersgenootschap & the counsil of Wassenaar yesterday:

Stichting slijpt messen over boerderijen op De Horsten - Achtergronden ROYALBLOG.NL

The secretary of the association, Leo Dubbelaar, was the only speaker and he accused the city of Wassenaar to be too impressed by the 'high owner' of the estate (the Queen) etc. etc. And he stuck to his plea that the asbestos-filled farms from the 50-ties have an historic value. Even the local press didn't seem too interested according to the article.

It is not as much of historical value as it is of histerical value to that man,Dubbelaar...babbelaar...No-one is interested really...

[NGalitzine]

Whats the historical interest/value besides the location? I was under the impression the buildings are not exactly ancient and are in rather bad repair besides having asbestos problems.

[ashelen]

Google Vertaling
thank you Fanvanmaxima1
here we can see some photos of the entrance inside! lovely!
I noticed 2 things one that the main door does not look to have very secure locks, like normal handle and that 's it! and in 2 wals it is like 2 paints the same? may be somebody can have better eyes than me?

[lucien]

Originally Posted by NGalitzine

Whats the historical interest/value besides the location? I was under the impression the buildings are not exactly ancient and are in rather bad repair besides having asbestos problems.

They are derelict,yes.There is no historical interest to the said buildings at all,just a hysterical interest by the village fools..that's all.

The buildings will be torn down and something new will be build to make the estate profitable again,that's the aim.

[lucien]

Originally Posted by Marengo

There was a public hearing of the Cuypersgenootschap & the counsil of Wassenaar yesterday:

Stichting slijpt messen over boerderijen op De Horsten - Achtergronden ROYALBLOG.NL

The secretary of the association, Leo Dubbelaar, was the only speaker and he accused the city of Wassenaar to be too impressed by the 'high owner' of the estate (the Queen) etc. etc. And he stuck to his plea that the asbestos-filled farms from the 50-ties have an historic value. Even the local press didn't seem too interested according to the article.

Good!The Cuypers Society ceased their opposition to demolishing the two derelict farms at the Horsten estate.They've acknowledged that the farms hold no monumental value.......(just mental.....to them......)

So the demolishing of the buildings can go ahead and new houses will be build on the site.

[fortimo]

The plan of the Villa Eikenhorst (first and second etage):
Villa Eikenhorst
Villa Eikenhorst

From this article:
Los prncipes de Orange ya viven en su nueva casa, Villa Eikenhorst
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Other article with some picture:
http://www.paleizen.nl/Paleizenbesta...Eikenhorst.htm
http://translate.google.hu/translate...Eikenhorst.htm