"The Real Camilla: HRH the Duchess of Cornwall" (2018) - ITV Documentary

[Nico]

Originally Posted by Madame Verseau

The rage seen in comments could stem from the initial statement when Camilla and Charles were married; the public pronouncement was she was going to be Princess Consort when Charles becomes king. If that was never the intention then the announcement should never have been made. Now it looks like Clarence House has put one over on the public all these years and it's going to be harder to accept the name change when the time comes.

The thing that some people fail to understand, including you, is that she will be legally Queen Consort. period. As she 's legally Princess of Wales. Now the title Camilla wants to be called is another matter. As such, as explained in the documentary (you have not missed i'm sure), it's still "intended" to call her Princess Consort , the exact words of the statement in 2005.

[wyevale]

it will take an act of parliament to change her destiny

Not just the UK Parliament either.. all Parliaments in the other Realms and Territories too, and SIMULTANEOUSLY ! The chances of that are [frankly] ZERO.

[Osipi]

I've always had a sneaking suspicion that the statement made in 2005 with the intent that Camilla go by "Princess Consort" wasn't made to just placate the Dianaphiles but because at the time of the marriage, Camilla herself was skeptical of just how she would fit into royal life and the duties and responsibilities. Thirteen years on we see she has adapted to royal life marvelously.

As stated, it would take a whole lot of governmental time and energies to legally strip Camilla of being Queen Consort and I don't think that's going to happen. If they change it for one Queen Consort, it would be a ruling for *all* future Queen Consorts and not only specific to Camilla. People are already looking forward to a "Queen Catherine".

As for Camilla, I don't think it really matters to her one iota what she is called. She knows who she is. She's comfortable in her own skin and does what she needs to do with dignity and grace. Her main goal, to me, is to love and support her husband in all things and that's exactly what she does.

[Nico]

Just take a look and make your opinion (but it will not be online indefinitely).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQCJk7j5ae8

[Ista]

Originally Posted by Nico

Just take a look and make your opinion (but it will not be online indefinitely).

Thank you for posting that link, Nico. I enjoyed watching, and think that it was a nice and mostly positive overview of someone who has gotten more than her fair share of negative press during the Diana years.

[TLLK]

Thank you for sharing the video Nico. It was the first time I'd ever seen anything focused upon Camilla and I agree that it was a very positive portrayal.

[Lady Nimue]

Originally Posted by Nico

Just take a look and make your opinion (but it will not be online indefinitely).

Interesting. I wasn't sure what I was going to see. Seems to be a direct statement as to Camilla's status once Charles is King: the unequivocal statement that she will be Queen, is stated many times, and that she may be called something else is another matter. Is this an attempt to get the public used to the fact that Camilla will indeed one day be Queen? Seems like.

Other than the above it's not clear that the hour long show had much more of a point. Basically it was the Diana/Camilla thing rolled out again, and in a very superficial way. JMO.

P.S. It was great seeing Camilla focussed on, though. I am only sorry that she had to be seen through the 'Diana Troubles' lens. So unfair to her imo.

[suztav]

thanks for sharing! That was a fabulous show!

[Dman]

Originally Posted by Lady Nimue

Interesting. I wasn't sure what I was going to see. Seems to be a direct statement as to Camilla's status once Charles is King: the unequivocal statement that she will be Queen, is stated many times, and that she may be called something else is another matter. Is this an attempt to get the public used to the fact that Camilla will indeed one day be Queen? Seems like.

Other than the above it's not clear that the hour long show had much more of a point. Basically it was the Diana/Camilla thing rolled out again, and in a very superficial way. JMO.

P.S. It was great seeing Camilla focussed on, though. I am only sorry that she had to be seen through the 'Diana Troubles' lens. So unfair to her imo.

That’s because Camilla and Diana’s life story are forever linked. The media continue to make it a Camilla vs Diana thing, but at the end of the day, they were/are two women who famously fell in love with the same man. One story can’t be told without mentioning the each other. It is what it is!

I think both Camilla and Charles have moved on by accepting their life journey, while others are still in the 90’s, fighting a war that no longer have any principle participants.

[Nico]

The program is back online .... i guess for a limited amount of time as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9e82ODqXxU&t=4s

[COUNTESS]

Originally Posted by Lady Nimue

Interesting. I wasn't sure what I was going to see. Seems to be a direct statement as to Camilla's status once Charles is King: the unequivocal statement that she will be Queen, is stated many times, and that she may be called something else is another matter. Is this an attempt to get the public used to the fact that Camilla will indeed one day be Queen? Seems like.

Other than the above it's not clear that the hour long show had much more of a point. Basically it was the Diana/Camilla thing rolled out again, and in a very superficial way. JMO.

P.S. It was great seeing Camilla focussed on, though. I am only sorry that she had to be seen through the 'Diana Troubles' lens. So unfair to her imo.

Why? She was a major part of the problem. Charles loved Camilla, that is true and not his wife. Too bad. She isn't here without the baggage.

[Lady Nimue]

Originally Posted by COUNTESS

Why? She was a major part of the problem.

Disagree. Sadly, Charles was Diana's to lose. Diana held all the cards. Diana was her own worst problem.

Originally Posted by COUNTESS

Charles loved Camilla, that is true and not his wife. Too bad. She isn't here without the baggage.

That's the myth that Diana peddled. Its been repeated endlessly enough that people believe it is a fact. Go into the timeline of the story and it's clear that it was Diana who was 'in love' elsewhere. Diana left Charles few options.

Charles should have ended the marriage the moment the marriage became 'irretrievably broken down'. I think that would have been around 1985. The moment Diana took a lover Charles should have ended the marriage.

[Lumutqueen]

This is not the thread to be discussing this....

[Duc_et_Pair]

I have seen the docu on ITV. What a wonderful, witty, well-grounded and natural person the Duchess is.

[Lady Nimue]

Originally Posted by Lumutqueen

This is not the thread to be discussing this....

The documentary enters that realm however, so it's unavoidable. Perhaps unfortunately. I certainly was disappointed.

[AdmirerUS]

I thought is was a fair and balanced 46ish minutes. A puff piece for sure, but fair in all.

Interesting how much she emphasized has to have her causes that she believes in. If every royal had that deal, there would be far less patronages. Because someone has to do some slogging eventually. But it makes me guess that that was part of the deal she struck with Charles when they married. That she would get to work on what she wanted to work on. Don't get me wrong - I feel a kinship with her Patronages. But somebody has to be the Patron of the drapers, bricklayers/masons, etc. Or maybe not, if that's where the monarchy heads.

The thing left out that I wish had been covered was her own home. But I am guessing she draws the line there.

The thing left out that surprised me most was that there was no real discussion of her everyday life with Charles. Again, I suspect that line was drawn. But I'll look forward to that in biographies in a few decades.

And the oddest thing for me was how much Joanna Lumley's speaking voice/accent reminded me of Diana's voice.