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Old 03-09-2007, 04:28 PM
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Yes , the character is indeed the Kaiser. He meets John in the corridor, shortly before Edward VII funeral (and before John has a fit).

I saw the Lost Prince last week. It is a very touching movie.

I lked the way they portrayed little Johnnie's dreams about the Tsar and his family coming to live with him or about the Wilhem II and Franz-Joseph (even if this one is very short).
The duke of Kent (Georgie) is a very interesting character as well.

The young actors who play Johnnie and Georgie are amazing.

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Old 03-09-2007, 07:02 PM
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I Loved the movie very sad though .

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Old 03-10-2007, 04:41 PM
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As has been said previously in this thread, "The Lost Prince" is quite enjoyable viewing but many, many historical accuracies are in it.

Prince John met the Russian Royal Family once in 1909 when he was but four years old so they are unlikely to have made an enormous impression on him. I simply don't understand why their execution was shown also - nothing whatsoever to do with young Prince John who was at the time living at Wood Farm with his beloved "Lalla".

Several portrayals were inaccurate also - the Tsar, the Kaiser, Queen Mary and the Grand Duchesses are some which come to mind...
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Old 05-07-2007, 09:58 AM
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PBS miniseries The Lost Prince

If anyone is interested...PBS is running a miniseries based on the life of King Geoge v and Queen Mary's son Prince John. I came across it late last night. I only caught thelast 10 to 15 minutes but its PBS so i'm sure they're run it again. At the end of the theatrical broadcast there was a documentary covering the life and lifestyle of Tzar Nicholas and Alexandra and Kaiser Wilhelm. Here's the link to the PBS website:

Masterpiece Theatre | The Lost Prince
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Old 01-04-2008, 03:39 PM
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Hi, having watched and enjoyed 'the lost prince' on TV again recently, could anyone tell me what became of Lala, who looked after Prince John at York Cottage?
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Old 01-04-2008, 03:47 PM
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More info can be found here;

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Old 04-14-2009, 08:01 AM
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I have just watched a re- run of this mini series & found it very enjoyable - the actors were without exception tremendous, & the production values extremely high. Well done Stephen Poliakoff for writing & directing such a moving piece of drama One aspect I found particularly interesting was the portrayal of Prince George & Prince John. It made me wonder about the accuracy of their close relationship & Prince George's apparent aversion to a naval career while at Dartmouth. I'm also interested to know if the older siblings, Edward & Bertie had much to do with their younger brother - perhaps someone could enlighten me.
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Old 08-31-2009, 02:18 PM
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Couldn't agree more. The lost prince is one of my favourite movies.

Sadly I do not know, how the relationship between the older brothers and Johnnie was. I've read the Duke of Windsors memoirs and found no word about Johnnie.
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Old 08-31-2009, 11:03 PM
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There wasn't much of a relationship between John and the older brothers. George was the one he was closest to, and I think he may have been fairly close to Mary when he was young. His oldest two brothers were away at school or war during most of the time he was alive. I mean, they weren't total strangers, but it wasn't like with normal siblings. With large royal families usually kids with more than a few years age difference weren't close. Wasn't like it is today.
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Old 07-14-2011, 10:21 PM
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I loved this.It was very sad at the end.I loved the actors who played Lalla and John.
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This was a very moving if overly romantic story of that tragic Prince John. I felt that the actress playing Charlotte "Lala" Bill could have also played Princess Victoria, Prince John's spinster aunt as she bears a slight resemblance to her.

I also think life at Sandringham after Edward VII died could have been shown more as it had been (old, fusty, and depressing) including Princess Victoria, Charlotte Knollys, and Sir Dyghton Probin.

And despite the graphic murder scene (of the Romanovs), it was far from how it actually went down. It was still effecting and tragic but not entirely accurate.
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I've heard of this movie and because of this British prince apparently the name John is bad luck in The BRF because Diana wanted to name her eldest john after her father? But instead the baby got William Phillip Arthur Louis who we have come to know as prince William of wales,duke of Cambridge .

Also ive always wanted to watch this movie but can't find it anywhere. Help please.much thanks.:)
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Old 09-19-2011, 04:37 PM
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Here it is:

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Old 03-28-2016, 01:56 PM
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I have seen the series again, these Easter days. Fa-bu-lous. Especially the scenery, the royal residences, the uniforms, the doings of a royal Household is one of the best ever recorded. Little Prince George, the later Duke of Kent, has captured my heart. King George V was a stuffy bore in reality and was exactly like that in the series. Queen Mary... phew... I know her as a lady strangled by her self-implemented stiffness and étiquette but in this series she came over as a heartless creature who was more concerned about the public perception of the royal family than about her son Johnnie.
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I agree Duc and I read George V intelligence was the one of a Lift Boy.
He was terrible with his suns , perhaps for that his second son Albert had problems to speak normally and David did not want to be King.
As for Johnnie , both the King and the Queen did not have a human attitude.
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Old 03-28-2016, 03:09 PM
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I've found myself watching this program repeatedly whenever it comes on and I totally agree with your assessments of how the characters were portrayed. It also makes me realize just how far the British Royal Family has come in 100 years in regards to human challenges. Johnnie was put away mostly from the rest of the world because of seizures and the attitudes of a society that saw disabilities such as this as a "disgrace" and a weak spot on the family. Its sad to think that if he had been born just 100 years later, he most likely would have lived a longer and full life without ostracism.
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Old 03-29-2016, 02:34 AM
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Originally Posted by maria-olivia View Post
I agree Duc and I read George V intelligence was the one of a Lift Boy.
He was terrible with his suns , perhaps for that his second son Albert had problems to speak normally and David did not want to be King.
As for Johnnie , both the King and the Queen did not have a human attitude.
And you class a liftboy per definition of high ntelligence? or low intelligence? (by your intonation i gather it might be the latter?)

I think you should keep in mind that this particular movie did not intend to be a documentary and is a work of fiction.
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Old 03-29-2016, 03:41 PM
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This particular movie was translated is french and my book about King George V was also a french translation. But the facts about Prince John cannot be hidden.
A lift boy is in french the job who needs the less intelligence . The day long you go up and down...

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