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Yes, that too. For both of them actually.
Long before Meghan came around, I thought he was jealous..,
Yes, that too. For both of them actually.
So much of what they've done feels like the actions of petulant toddlers rather than two adults approaching 40. It reminds me of a time where I wanted a whole cake but my mother said I could only have a slice... it wasn't what I wanted so I refused to eat any cake at all.
Here's the thing about the "title" - first off, it's not a TITLE, it's a STYLE. He wasn't going to get the HRH style because he wasn't a male-line grandchild of the monarch.
The only reason that HM issued the 2012 LP to give the HRH style to all of William's kids was because of the Act of Succession legislation that was wending its way through the Commonwealth realms to implement absolute primogeniture. The Queen wanted to ensure that the heir to the crown, whether it was a boy or a girl, was styled as HRH from birth and the 1917 LP didn't do that - it was the eldest son of the eldest son of the POW that got HRH and the rest of the eldest son of the POW's kids were styled like other male-line great-grandchildren of the monarch.
If Harry & Meghan were so concerned with Archie having a style, as others have pointed out, they could have styled him Archie, Earl of Dumbarton or Lord Archie Mountbatten-Windsor.
What they have made clear, in this interview, is that they only care about the HRH style.
And I really don't get their problems with the security for Archie. Just when was he going to need his own security detail? He would have whatever security his parents had whenever he was with them. And if there was a time when they weren't with him, presumably he would be at Frogmore Cottage and have the standard security detail that the house has. Until he started preschool, what need would he have for any separate security from his parents? Preschool was a few years off for him, at that time, the Metropolitan Police might have reassessed the threat risk and determined he needed an RPO while he was at school, or not. But, really... When would their kid need his own security detail for the first few years of his life?
Please someone PM a transcript of their interview when an outlet publishes it, thank you.
Meghan is goading the RF into retaliating. I hope they don't fall for the bait so that she can continue playing the victim. How this so-called beautiful and happening actress was jailed in a tower, a la Rapunzel. N now the evil "them" are jealous of all the love she receives, hence the nasty attacks continue.
Totally! Edward and Sophie's son is known as James, Viscount Severn. I've never even seen him referred to as James Mountbatten-Windsor. H&M could easily have done the same thing with Archie.
If Harry & Meghan were so concerned with Archie having a style, as others have pointed out, they could have styled him Archie, Earl of Dumbarton or Lord Archie Mountbatten-Windsor.
Unlike some members here, I don't think they'll divorce. She needs to be seen as supported by him, the source of her fame and fortune (because no matter what is said she was nowhere near Oprah-level of fame before her marriage), and he has no idea what to do without somebody ordering him about, whether it's The Firm, the military, or his wife. Their marriage will stand the test of time, the way the Duke and Duchess of Windsor did, and Woody and Soon-Yi Allen has.
Put like that it all seems even more entitled.
An eldest son who uses a courtesy peerage title is styled by his title alone, without using his name, so James is known as "Viscount Severn".
https://www.royal.uk/succession
Likewise, Archie would have been known simply as "the Earl of Dumbarton" if he had used the customary courtesy title.
The 1917 and 2012 Letters Patent may be read here:
https://www.heraldica.org/topics/britain/prince_highness_docs.htm
Do Lady Louise and Viscount Sevren have protection whilst minors? Princesses Beatrice and Eugenie certainly did....
Edit: as of 2011, the Earl and Countess of Wessex lost their RPOs. From my research, it may be funded privately too
Sorry - I thought I'd seen James referred to as James, Viscount Severn in the media, but clearly the media might have gotten that wrong.
What are you saying? The security concern was not made up. Didn't you listen to what Harry said? His and his family's RPO security was pulled in Canada at a time when they did not have any plans in place. They had hoped initially to be able to live part-time in Canada, and still represent the Crown in some fashion. None of that worked out. Why are you saying that the security concern was made up? There were definite threats to their security, including death threats they had faced since the time of their marriage.
It's possible that was done because William is the future king. Which once again gives credence to the long floated rumor that Meghan wanted her and Harry to be equal to William and Kate. That was never going to happen because of where they are in the order of succession.
It's the title of his Wikipedia page, so it's definitely something that is being used, incorrect or not ?
However, Sophie, Edward, Beatrice, Eugenie etc did not got to war twice against insurgents. I remember when he came back the threats received must have been extreme as Harry had as many as six RPOs around him at one time.
You could say ‘Oh but that was years ago!’ and yes it was, but it wasn’t that long ago (certainly after Harry’s marriage) that a man was jailed in Britain for issuing threats against him.
Add to that the fact that threats of various sorts have been made online in social media regarding Harry, Meghan and their child, right up to now, and there is a question mark over not providing security for a man who fought for his country in a war zone and his family. I remember at the time the family moved to Canada various ex RPOs and spokesmen for security firms believed that there could well be an ongoing risk of harm coming to him and Meghan.
There were concerns about their child/children’s skin tone
…still waiting for that to sink (SINK) in
And there will be more tomorrow. Here I was thinking they already did enough damage.
So they say. One can believe them or not.
So they say. One can believe them or not.
That's actually pretty nerve wrecking. When MM told Oprah about the child and them talking about the colour of there child(before being born) was greatly damaging.
I'm curious myself what else she aims to say but wow! when she said that! what a shot.
Yes, it was a little confusing. Meghan thinks the comment happened during her pregnancy but Harry thinks the moment happened before they married. So they're not sure when it happened?