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Old 03-08-2021, 10:17 AM
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It really isn't. Give it a week. People will forget it. There's a lot going on in the world for anyone to fixate on this.
Course they will and everything with the royal famy tends to be an inigition of anger against them.and then with time people have a more balanced view.

I mean even Diana. Panorama, the book, her death. People hated the royal family but time moved on a rare picture of her was reached. And they are not Diana.

I read that the day after the abdication that Wallis woke up to find him looking at her going: what are we going to do today? And in that instance she saw her future.

Harry...similar I can see. I probably would have refused to take his calls too to protect my own well being. I have refused to take calls because call was too much.
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Old 03-08-2021, 10:21 AM
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I rather think the "former friend of Harry's mum" who becaem a confidante was Fergie. And she helped Meghan with trying to come to terms with the adversary she was shown by some members of the staff. Like most of Sarah's projects (apart from her daughters) this one didn't work out as well.
I think it's name dropping, "see how close I was with the royals"
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Old 03-08-2021, 10:22 AM
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Course they will and everything with the royal famy tends to be an inigition of anger against them.and then with time people have a more balanced view.

I mean even Diana. Panorama, the book, her death. People hated the royal family but time moved on a rare picture of her was reached. And they are not Diana.

I read that the day after the abdication that Wallis woke up to find him looking at her going: what are we going to do today? And in that instance she saw her future.

Harry...similar I can see. I probably would have refused to take his calls too to protect my own well being. I have refused to take calls because call was too much.
@Bold: One documentary made a good point about how even during the time of Diana's death people wanted to see MORE of the royalty (Where's our Queen!?), and not less of it.
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Old 03-08-2021, 10:22 AM
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[...]

I wonder how much longer they'll drag this out. I can see others wanting interviews and offering them money.

All this while Harry claims to love his Grandmother

And yeah it was obviously Fergie because we know how close Harry/Fergie are. But let's be real the way they announced their pregnancy at Eugenie's wedding was crappy. Meghan claimed to know Eugenie lol before (Not buying this) maybe she heard of her or seen her at someone's inner circle.

I do think the Royal Family has to respond.
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Old 03-08-2021, 10:24 AM
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Hmm.

First of all, I didn't see the interview, so I wish to thank all of you for your comments and informative thoughts which helped me get the general idea of the interview.

I am left with one question: If they wanted privacy, why didn't they move to a farm in Idaho and raise chickens instead of going on Oprah?

This privacy thing makes no sense to me.
Because they NEVER wanted privacy in the first place.
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Old 03-08-2021, 10:26 AM
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It really isn't. Give it a week. People will forget it. There's a lot going on in the world for anyone to fixate on this.
The firestorm is going to calm down but the damage will be lasting. This issue will be raised whenever there is a major milestone for the royal family. For example, for next year's jubilee, there will be a lot of discussion about how and whether Meghan and Harry will take part and clips of this interview will resurface.

I don't understand the purpose or what this was supposed to accomplish. It can't be undone. I think his family will forgive him but the scars will remain.
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Old 03-08-2021, 10:29 AM
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I want to point out that Meghan said she wanted to go somewhere to get help. They may have said no but ai can see why. The place would have been bombarded. That is different from saying no to help someone could have been hir2d to see her daily I am sure.

Archie should never be a Prince...and would not have been at birth.

Whether we are team believer or team sceptic no conclusion ever answers all the phenomena that occur. And when we think we know all we have is doubt.

I believe her perspective. But I dont necessarily now believe that that perspective is anywhere near the truth.she may have asked to go somewhere to retain her mental health. Be told no but offered mabynother options. But all she heard was no and freaked out.

One thing I am sure of she shouldnt have reported something third hand. You should never repeat what someone tells you ever.

Meghan's claim that she was suicidal while pregnant and was denied help is very serious, and I hope the UK press probes that further as it requires clarification.


One thing that bothers me though is that, while H&M make serious allegations like the suicide claim, they also say other things which, quite frankly, look absurd , narcissistic or paranoid like implying that Archie not getting a title he was never entitled to was somehow linked to the fact that he is biracial; or suggesting the RF was scared of Meghan's star power (and how she was fabulous at the job) and was afraid she might become a new Diana.
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Old 03-08-2021, 10:31 AM
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I haven't seen the interview , I doubt I will , but I have seen /heard 'snippets ' on news programs. I don't understand how Harry can say he has been 'cut off financially ', when they wanted to be financially independent ???
It appears that they can't keep up with their own lies, they really should pick a narrative and stick with it.
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Old 03-08-2021, 10:33 AM
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There's a problem leaving someone who resents your family in the line of succession. IDK if they play into their narrative. Remove the title and he should be axed from the line of succession. Moving forward - Archie and their kids should not have titles since they don't want to be part of the royal family and they have slandered the Royal Family.
It might be time for the UK to introduce a residency requirement, similar to what Denmark has. Kids have to be raised and educated in the country to be included in the succession.
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Old 03-08-2021, 10:34 AM
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I haven't seen the interview , I doubt I will , but I have seen /heard 'snippets ' on news programs. I don't understand how Harry can say he has been 'cut off financially ', when they wanted to be financially independent ???
Because they wanted to be financially independend when and how it fit them? Of course with their security bill covered by someone else, be it British or Canadian people, because that's how they imagined things.

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It could also have been mere, harmless speculation about whom the baby would look like, the mom or the dad. I can see how Harry or Meghan can turn it all about the race/colour. They've done so in the past.
Or that. By judging Harry's reaction to that question, it might've looked like that, then Meghan overreacted when he said it to her, he didn't want to sound insensitive by correcting here and now we have this deadly offense on our hands. Lord...
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Old 03-08-2021, 10:34 AM
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Harry reminds me more of John Lennon than anybody else. How he went from being a charming, affable Beatle boy to dissing Beatles at every point after he met Yoko. He became angry and nasty, all the Beatle charm was gone.
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Old 03-08-2021, 10:34 AM
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watching it right now.
so, she really dared to attack Kate-wow, [...] when O. asks if Kate supported etc her and the pictures from wimbledon look like....
M. doesnt say simply :yes. but she says, things often look different from what they are.......
and then this story about Kate making her cry, though Kate is a good person-aha!?
Wow, this is really really -without words-

Let's see if HM still insists they are loved members of the family. [...]

The race card- any intelligent adult should see through this poor strategy.

Meghan tries to act Diana, it is so obvious, but poor. Not sure if Harry is in to this consciously or just knodding to everything Meghan wants (Meghan gets?)
Suicidal thoughts while being pregnant, all this..... disgusting.
Rumours without substances, talking about who?, when?, what?.....


I really don't care if some US people try to get away rom their country's big troubles, not knowing much about european culture or british monarchy itself anyway, but any other
especially european people should and will just ignore [...]
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Old 03-08-2021, 10:38 AM
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That is not going to happen. Meghan's favorability rating in the UK (before this interview) was -14. William's is +65. the Queen's is +64 and Kate's is +57.

More significantly, mainstream politicians in the UK don't want to abolish the monarchy because the Queen is a ceremonial, powerless figurehead and, replacing her with an elected President, even if he/she is more like the President of Ireland than the POTUS, would risk taking power away from the Prime Minister and the cabinet.

Some Commonwealth realms, most notably Australia and New Zealand, have strong republican movements supported by at least one mainstream party, and may well become republics during Charles' reign. In the UK, or even in Canada, there isn't really much mainstreamt support for a republic, so I don't expect significant changes in the near future.
Agreed. British public never seemed to like Meghan much anyway. Even Trump was praised by the Guardian readers when he told them to pay for their own security.

This was all about getting American public on their side coz they seemed to have angered them as well when they decided to tell whom they should be voting for. Harry looked SO uncomfortable in that video. Ugh.
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Old 03-08-2021, 10:45 AM
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Agreed. British public never seemed to like Meghan much anyway. Even Trump was praised by the Guardian readers when he told them to pay for their own security.

This was all about getting American public on their side coz they seemed to have angered them as well when they decided to tell whom they should be voting for. Harry looked SO uncomfortable in that video. Ugh.
I think the British public were willing to accept Meghan as they were happy for Harry and hoped everything would work out well for them. However, I do think that there was an underlying suspicion of her motives and authenticity which her behaviour culminating in this interview has confirmed.
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Old 03-08-2021, 10:46 AM
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The firestorm is going to calm down but the damage will be lasting. This issue will be raised whenever there is a major milestone for the royal family. For example, for next year's jubilee, there will be a lot of discussion about how and whether Meghan and Harry will take part and clips of this interview will resurface.

I don't understand the purpose or what this was supposed to accomplish. It can't be undone. I think his family will forgive him but the scars will remain.
I don't think Philip will forgive him and Meghan will definitely forever be on the outs. He never forgave Sarah for what she did. I don't know about the rest of them. If Charles was already to the point where he wasn't taking Harry's calls then it might be a long hard road back. Sadly there are somethings you can't come back from.
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Old 03-08-2021, 10:49 AM
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Boris Johnson is holding a press conference at 4pm, because this is the day of the first stage of relaxing restrictions - schools have reopened, and people are now able to meet a friend outdoors. I can't imagine he's very pleased that all this is happening at the same time, but reporters are bound to bring it up and he's then going to be in a difficult position - I assume he'll respond with something along the lines of "Racism is unacceptable". The Archbishop of Canterbury hasn't said anything, and I doubt he will.


I think including a residency requirement would be awkward, because it'd look like it was directed at Archie. None of this mess is his fault. He's just an innocent little kid who's going to grow up knowing that his parents had a very public falling out with his maternal grandfather and then slagged his paternal family off on the world's most-watched TV talk show. Which is rather a shame.
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Old 03-08-2021, 10:50 AM
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Regarding the allegation that a family member made a comment about what "color" their children's skin would be:

I believe the comment was made.

My mother is biracial (half Chinese, half Welsh/English) and I strongly resemble her, and when I married a white man, both my mother and mother-in-law openly speculated "how much" of my maternal ancestry would "come out" in our kids.

I don't say this to justify anything, but to explain that I believe it because I think many people think it's a very acceptable topic to discuss. I don't think people are aware of how hurtful it is. The first question my mom had when I called with each of my babies being born was "What color hair? What do the eyes look like?" (I will say my mother-in-law showed more restraint.)
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Old 03-08-2021, 10:51 AM
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watching it right now.
so, she really dared to attack Kate-wow, how evil. when O. asks if Kate supported etc her and the pictures from wimbledon look like....
M. doesnt say simply :yes. but she says, things often look different from what they are.......
and then this story about Kate making her cry, though Kate is a good person-aha!?
Wow, this is really really -without words-

Let's see if HM still insists they are loved members of the family. Which would proof a lot of masochism.

The race card- any intelligent adult should see through this poor strategy.

Meghan tries to act Diana, it is so obvious, but poor. Not sure if Harry is in to this consciously or just knodding to everything Meghan wants (Meghan gets?)
Suicidal thoughts while being pregnant, all this..... disgusting.
Rumours without substances, talking about who?, when?, what?.....


I really don't care if some US people try to get away rom their country's big troubles, not knowing much about european culture or british monarchy itself anyway, but any other
especially european people should and will just ignore this little brats.
You can be a good person and still sometimes do a crappy thing in the moment.

I really think much of what happened to H and M was through the courtiers.
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Old 03-08-2021, 10:51 AM
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I think the British public were willing to accept Meghan as they were happy for Harry and hoped everything would work out well for them. However, I do think that there was an underlying suspicion of her motives and authenticity which her behaviour culminating in this interview has confirmed.
It all began with the climate change preaching, and taking the private jet immediately after. Their hypocrisy was laid bare for everyone to see.
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I haven't seen the interview , I doubt I will , but I have seen /heard 'snippets ' on news programs. I don't understand how Harry can say he has been 'cut off financially ', when they wanted to be financially independent ???
Perhaps this is one of those parsing things? Like Harry wanted to be financially independent from the British taxpayers and their expectations but sincerely thought dad would keep giving him money and pay for security.
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