 |
|

07-24-2017, 09:09 AM
|
 |
Imperial Majesty
|
|
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Midwest, United States
Posts: 15,827
|
|
"Diana, Our Mother: Her Life and Legacy" (2017) - ITV/HBO Documentary
Diana, Our Mother: Her Life and Legacy- July 24th at 9pm HBO United States
Diana, Our Mother: Her Life and Legacy | Preview | HBO Documentaries
Diana, Our Mother: Her Life and Legacy- July 24th at 9pm ITV United Kingdom
TV Guide | What's on TV - ITV
__________________
"WE CANNOT PRAY IN LOVE AND LIVE IN HATE AND STILL THINK WE ARE WORSHIPING GOD."
A.W. TOZER
|

07-24-2017, 10:36 AM
|
 |
Imperial Majesty
|
|
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Midwest, United States
Posts: 12,309
|
|
If someone finds out it's going to be online please post when it is available to watch !
LaRae
|

07-24-2017, 04:10 PM
|
 |
Super Moderator
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Boston, United States
Posts: 3,571
|
|
I'm looking forward to watching this tonight
|

07-24-2017, 06:01 PM
|
 |
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: London, United Kingdom
Posts: 13,871
|
|
I'm watching now; it's been a really good and insightful programme so far. I particularly liked the old clips of Diana and her brother from their childhoods. It was the first time I noticed a resemblance between Prince George and Charles Spencer!
Who is Harry Herbert? He's been quite frequently interviewed on the documentary but I'm not really sure what his relation is to Diana. I should really Google this, but I'm too lazy
It was really lovely of Harry to invite the victims of the Bosnian war to meet him and talk about their memories of his mother.
__________________
"For beautiful eyes, look for the good in others; for beautiful lips, speak only words of kindness; and for poise, walk with the knowledge that you are never alone". Audrey Hepburn
*
"Think of all the beauty still left around you and be happy". Anne Frank
|

07-24-2017, 06:14 PM
|
 |
Heir Apparent
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Atlanta, United States
Posts: 4,154
|
|
Harry Herbert is Porchie's younger son. The older one is the Earl of Carnavron - owns Highclere Castle aka Downton Abbey
|

07-24-2017, 06:58 PM
|
 |
Majesty
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: London, United Kingdom
Posts: 6,333
|
|
HArry Herbert and Lady Carolyn Warren are brother and sister. She is married to JOhn Warren, the Queens horse trainer.
__________________
This precious stone set in the silver sea,......
This blessed plot, this earth, this realm, this England,
|

07-24-2017, 07:15 PM
|
 |
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: London, United Kingdom
Posts: 13,871
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Skippyboo
Harry Herbert is Porchie's younger son. The older one is the Earl of Carnavron - owns Highclere Castle aka Downton Abbey
|
Thank you for clearing up my confusion, Skippyboo. I was wondering if he had a connection to the Carnarvons.
__________________
"For beautiful eyes, look for the good in others; for beautiful lips, speak only words of kindness; and for poise, walk with the knowledge that you are never alone". Audrey Hepburn
*
"Think of all the beauty still left around you and be happy". Anne Frank
|

07-24-2017, 08:29 PM
|
 |
Majesty
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: London, United Kingdom
Posts: 6,333
|
|
Excellent article in The Times re William and Harry - lots of quotes not just from tonights programme but from other occasions/
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/t...ness-ffnxh85d8
Quote from the Times article regarding the TV programme:
The reference point for all involved, said the director Nick Kent, was to have something “the princes could show their children”
__________________
This precious stone set in the silver sea,......
This blessed plot, this earth, this realm, this England,
|

07-24-2017, 08:43 PM
|
 |
Heir Presumptive
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Paris, France
Posts: 2,890
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by cepe
Excellent article in The Times re William and Harry - lots of quotes not just from tonights programme but from other occasions/
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/t...ness-ffnxh85d8
Quote from the Times article regarding the TV programme:
The reference point for all involved, said the director Nick Kent, was to have something “the princes could show their children”
|
So they focused the programme on the memories, as they should.
It was all nice, full of good moments and love. In fact nothing was really new in that documentary. It was smooth, without drama ...
As such, i think it's not the long waited , defintive portrait of Diana. You can"t expect the boys to dig into the complex personnality of their late mother. I guess it's not their role. They deciced to retain the best of her, good for them !
|

07-24-2017, 09:20 PM
|
 |
Serene Highness
|
|
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Saturn, Germany
Posts: 1,309
|
|
Very touching docu, especially the Bosnia part.
__________________
To be a legend, you've either got to be dead or excessively old!
Christopher Lee
|

07-24-2017, 10:11 PM
|
 |
Majesty
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: London, United Kingdom
Posts: 6,333
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nico
So they focused the programme on the memories, as they should.
It was all nice, full of good moments and love. In fact nothing was really new in that documentary. It was smooth, without drama ...
As such, i think it's not the long waited , defintive portrait of Diana. You can"t expect the boys to dig into the complex personnality of their late mother. I guess it's not their role. They deciced to retain the best of her, good for them !
|
Agree a 100%. So much not mentioned that shows the other side of Diana and some of the awful things she did which must have affected her sons.
William just touched on one aspect when he mentioned being careful about letting the media in - I think that was a reference to how Diana got too close which led to really bad stuff like the Morton book and the Bashir interview.
But it was a tribute and as such it was good to see; none of the usual suspects turned up - enjoyed input from William van Straubanzee, Lady Carolyn Warren and Harry Herbert.
__________________
This precious stone set in the silver sea,......
This blessed plot, this earth, this realm, this England,
|

07-24-2017, 11:16 PM
|
 |
Imperial Majesty
|
|
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Christchurch, New Zealand
Posts: 10,297
|
|
 I am interested in the way that adults remember the past. From a woman present in the room with Blair and company when they were discussing the funeral on an open Conference Call, Blair and the powers that be desperately wanted the boys to walk behind the coffin, William was asked and absolutely refused and they didn't know he was going to until he stood with his father, grandfather, Harry and Uncle Charles. Harry was asked and, just as he was desperate to go to Paris with his father to bring Diana home. when asked he said yes. The reality of his mother's death had not registered in any 'real' way.
I think Harry was so traumatised by the reality, the actuality of what was actually going on around him must have terrified him, with an enormous number of people, largely silent as they passed, that the walk was long and unbelievably harrowing and emotional. It is hardly surprising that he announced that no child should be asked to do that as they are unable to understand the dynamics of what is about to happen.
__________________
MARG
"Words ought to be a little wild, for they are assaults of thoughts on the unthinking." - JM Keynes
|

07-25-2017, 12:30 AM
|
 |
Heir Apparent
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Atlanta, United States
Posts: 4,154
|
|
Well if the people didn't become hysterical messes, there would not have been a public funeral. The boys would not have had to make that walk behind the coffin. There could have been a private funeral in Norfolk.
|

07-25-2017, 12:38 AM
|
Majesty
|
|
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 9,131
|
|
Diana would have been buried beside other Spencers at the family seat in Northamptonshire. I'm sure that's what the Royal family expected and wanted, as well. However she was mourned all over the world and the British public felt a huge sense of loss and wanted to pay their respects. So a public funeral was arranged. It wasn't the British public, 'hysterical' or otherwise, who insisted on Harry (or William) walking behind his/their mother's coffin.
|

07-25-2017, 12:46 AM
|
Majesty
|
|
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 9,131
|
|
'Anyone else want to reach into the TV and give them a hug?' Twitter reaction to the documentary as millions tune in to watch Diana's sons speak about their mother.
Twitter reacts to Diana documentary | Daily Mail Online
|

07-25-2017, 02:17 AM
|
Heir Presumptive
|
|
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 2,981
|
|
"Diana, Our Mother: Her Life and Legacy" HBO and ITV
Quote:
Originally Posted by Skippyboo
Well if the people didn't become hysterical messes, there would not have been a public funeral. The boys would not have had to make that walk behind the coffin. There could have been a private funeral in Norfolk.
|
Why do you say this ? From what I've read Charles wanted them to walk who ever made the decision it wasn't the people.Diana's life is full if only from getting in the car that night to IF Camila married Charles instead of Andrew.
|

07-25-2017, 02:56 AM
|
 |
Heir Apparent
|
|
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Texas, United States
Posts: 3,717
|
|
The hysterics and entitlement of the masses put the Spencer's and RF in a situation that was not good for either family including the grieving kids. If Harry feels it shouldn't have been done to him then hopefully it will never be done again to a child. I do like that William and Harry later walked behind the QMs coffin.
Either way the funeral should have been private. I'm glad to hear this was all just about memories of Diana as a mom and not another Saint Diana piece.
|

07-25-2017, 03:09 AM
|
Imperial Majesty
|
|
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: London, United Kingdom
Posts: 10,980
|
|
Diana was a public figure and her funeral was a public event. Harry may have been a ibt young to walk behind the coffin but he ahd the support of his brother, father, uncle and grandfather. and I think Philip was right to say to Will that if he didn't do it, he would probably regret it later when he was older. I think that it was probably a help to him later that he was able to accompany his mother on her final journey and pay her respect.
|

07-25-2017, 03:58 AM
|
 |
Courtier
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Here, Ireland
Posts: 599
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Skippyboo
Well if the people didn't become hysterical messes, there would not have been a public funeral. The boys would not have had to make that walk behind the coffin. There could have been a private funeral in Norfolk.
|
There was always going to be a public funeral. She may no longer have been the wife of one future King, but she was the mother of another.
__________________
Be yourself; everyone else is already taken ..... Oscar Wilde
|

07-25-2017, 04:06 AM
|
 |
Courtier
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Here, Ireland
Posts: 599
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Curryong
.....It wasn't the British public, 'hysterical' or otherwise, who insisted on Harry (or William) walking behind his/their mother's coffin.
|
No it wasn't. The boys should have been asked if they wanted to, not asked to do this.
Harry would probably have taken his cue from William, who with the option given to him could have responded differently. As it is, they feel it was something they were made to do.
__________________
Be yourself; everyone else is already taken ..... Oscar Wilde
|
 |
|
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
|
|
Thread Tools |
Search this Thread |
|
|
Display Modes |
Linear Mode
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
|
Recent Discussions |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|