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Old 07-23-2016, 08:40 AM
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I agree, Chris knows his own child and perhaps ignoring her is their way of not allowing her to hijack every occasion. If she's anything like my niece was at 2 - 3 she's a quintessential "terrible two". Ignoring her was the only way to stop her outrageous behaviour because if she didn't have an audience she'd get bored and come to find out what you were doing.

If Chris believes that a parent, as the adult should be in control, then Madeleine chasing after the child gave the power to the child. He also probably had mental pictures of either he or Madeleine holding a squirming, screaming child. Not the ideal outcome.

But let's face it, with five kids under four at one photo shoot, things didn't really go too badly.

I think this might be the main issue: Chris is often away, and although he loves his children, he might not be so much present. So, logicially he lets Madeleine make the rules, but I think the have first to find a compromise on how to raise their kids.

It seems to me they have a discrepancy on the matter: Chris would like to put some rules and limits, while Madeleine seems to spoil her children and concede anything...

They have to work out a solution, because those little rows in public are not very pleasant to see.
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Old 07-23-2016, 09:33 PM
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I am very loath to make statements about Chris's parenting style or, more importantly, assume that because he is a businessman he is away a lot with consequent little input in the day to day lives of his wife and children.

He is not a travelling salesman or a long-haul truck driver, he is an investment banker/financier, so unless someone officially tells us, we don't know how often or how long he is away from home. Personally, I don't believe he is away all that often or it would have been just as easy for Madeleine and the children to remain in Sweden.
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I am very loath to make statements about Chris's parenting style or, more importantly, assume that because he is a businessman he is away a lot with consequent little input in the day to day lives of his wife and children.

He is not a travelling salesman or a long-haul truck driver, he is an investment banker/financier, so unless someone officially tells us, we don't know how often or how long he is away from home. Personally, I don't believe he is away all that often or it would have been just as easy for Madeleine and the children to remain in Sweden.
He has said that himself few times. And by no emans I was epxressing any jusdgement, just giving my point of view over two different opinions on raising kids they might have.
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I think this might be the main issue: Chris is often away, and although he loves his children, he might not be so much present. So, logicially he lets Madeleine make the rules, but I think the have first to find a compromise on how to raise their kids.

It seems to me they have a discrepancy on the matter: Chris would like to put some rules and limits, while Madeleine seems to spoil her children and concede anything...

They have to work out a solution, because those little rows in public are not very pleasant to see.
My feeling is that Madeleine is raising her children exacly as she herself was raised: with a very very enabling and permissive attitude. Honestly not a good idea considering her behavior as an adult.
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Old 07-26-2016, 03:05 PM
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My feeling is that Madeleine is raising her children exacly as she herself was raised: with a very very enabling and permissive attitude. Honestly not a good idea considering her behavior as an adult.
Well, I don't think any of the two way of parenting is wrong. I just believe that, if such different view exist, the parents should find a compromise... it could also very well depend on two different upbringings and cultural backgrounds...
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Old 07-26-2016, 10:23 PM
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It has been my experience that parenting styles often comprise a baseline set of rules and the parents wing it thereafter taking into account the different personalities of their kids. The imp, the dreamer, the pusher, the pleaser, all require different input from both parents and in the case of Chris and Madeleine, we just don't know enough to make "judgements" about them or their parenting styles.
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All children are nice some of the time.

All children are not-so-nice some of the time.

At this photo shoot, 80% of the children were nice all of the time.
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Old 07-27-2016, 12:40 AM
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Only 2 of 5 kids you could at all expect to, the boys too young. So 50/50 on behavior of the kids but Leonor is at hard age.
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Old 07-27-2016, 02:48 AM
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Regardless of that photo-shoot (Chris tired, Lenore scampish), it's interesting that in the last recent interview of Chris, he indicated that after a slight wait, he and Madeleine intend to have more children.
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Old 07-27-2016, 03:11 AM
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Maybe why waiting Realizing kids just over a year apart is a lot. Hope by time 3rd comes, Leonor will be a bit easier and Nico through his twos as well.
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Old 07-27-2016, 03:32 AM
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Yep.

Interesting watching Sofia cooing over her baby (same with Victoria) with all the drama going forth around her. Ah! Families. Agree with whoever mentioned how the SRF shows 'the way it is', the way families are.
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Old 07-29-2016, 05:29 AM
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Svensk Damtidning tells that the royal family made with a boat a trip to Sandvik one day, and had lunch at the local tavern. Sandvik is to the north from Borgholm.

King Carl Gustaf has been some days in Norway. He arrived on Sunday to Lærdalselvi in Laerdal. He stayed at the farm of norwegian billionaire Hans Rasmus Astrup. He went to fishing already on Sunday. King Harald came on Monday and stayed also at Astrup's farm, Astrup is his friend. And the two kings were fishing together.
Norska kritiken_ Vår kung är bästa fiskaren _ Nyheter _ Expressen
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To kongar er på fisketur i Lærdal - NRK Sogn og Fjordane - Lokale nyheter, TV og radio

Carl Philip and Sofia were yesterday in Båstad with their friends Jan-Åke Hansson and Josephine Yllner. Sofia is having a work event with Project Playground in Båstad today.
Sofia and Josephine ate crab tacos at Havsrepubliken. Carl Philip drove go-kart with his friends in Laholm.
Sofia och Carl Philip tillbaka där de träffades _ Kvällsposten

King Carl Gustaf and queen Silvia arrive to opera Manon Lescaut at the Salzburg Music Festival this evening.
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Photos taken some time ago, photo text
Prince Carl Philip with Prince Alexander, Princess Sofia, Queen Sivlia, Prince Nicolas, Princess Madeleine and Princess Leonore walk on the beach towards Sandy Borg, the ruins of an old castle, on the south east coast of Oland, Sweden. King Carl Gustaf went first with a dog. Prince Carl Philip goes last with Prince Alexander in a stroller.
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Bigger photos of the king and queen in Salzburg, from Getty Images
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Chris was also in Salzburg, here at the reception on the break of Manon Lescaut. His sisters Natascha and Tatjana were also there, and Eva O'Neill of course.
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Chris, Eva O'Neill and Natascha Abensperg und Traun with the king
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Tatjana d'Abo and behind her Natascha Abensperg und Traun
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Eva O'Neill with the king and queen
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King Carl Gustaf and queen Silvia will stay until Sunday. They are staying in Schloss Fuschl close to Salzburg and will on Friday listen Die Liebe der Danae and on Saturday at the Philharmonic concert directed by Zubin Mehta.
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Kungaparets glamourösa kväll med Eva O’Neill – och Chris! _ Svensk Damtidning
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nice to see the two royals together
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Old 08-03-2016, 09:56 PM
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Nice to see the 2 kings fishing together I like how close 2 generations seem to be
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Here's an additional gallery of King Carl Gustaf and Queen Silvia in Salzburg yesterday, August 4:



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Old 08-05-2016, 02:19 PM
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King Carl Gustaf and queen Silvia arrive to "Die Liebe der Danae" at the Salzburg Music Festival.
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Eva O'Neill and her daughter Natascha Abensperg und Traun
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Carl Philip and Sofia were at Avicii's last concert in Sweden, at Tallriken Arena in Malmö
Prins Carl Philip och prinsessan Sofia på Avicii-spelning _ Nöje KvP _ Expressen

Victoria and Daniel were having lunch at Arkösund Hotel yesterday. From hotel's Facebook "Unexpected and nice visit from a seafaring family, we got today at lunch", so obviously Estelle and Oscar were also there. Arkösund is at Estelle's duchy Östergötland.
https://www.facebook.com/ArkosundsHo...type=3&theater
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It has been great that Victoria, Daniel and the family have been able to spend their holiday without that many paparazzi photos or secretly taken photos have been published at the media or people's social media, I have seen only few. They are photographed enough at their official events.

Malin Peterzén from Arkösund's Hotel told to Radio Sweden P4 Östergötland that Victoria, Daniel and family stopped to the port when the lunch catering had just closed at the hotel, the family asked if they could eat.
Peterzén's colleague said that "Well, the kitchen has closed since the clock has passed 14:45 and now we make things ready for the evening". Another
colleague complained then that it was Crown Princess Victoria and Prince Daniel and the hotel arranged lunch for the family.
What did you think when you saw the crown princess and her family?
- That it was great fun and surprising, of course. They were like anyone really and very nice. We tried to disturb them as little as possible so they would be able to be like anyone. This because they were entirely private and on a holiday, says Malin Peterzén.
Arkösund fick kungligt besök - P4 Östergötland _ Sveriges Radio
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Old 08-06-2016, 07:12 AM
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How I wish we saw more of the private, casual Daniel at casual engagements. He looks like he is just so relaxed and happy in his own skin. Less hair product, shirt out, deck shoes and no tie!
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I'm curious to know if the royal couple made it and had lunch eventually... Did they have a treatment of favour?
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Old 08-06-2016, 09:32 PM
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Oh I think they would have had a wonderful luncheon and I am sure the service was perfect and discreet. After all, who wouldn't mind being put out a little to serve lunch to their Crown Princess?

Obviously, he admires her and her family and granting that favour would have truly been his pleasure. It's not like she and an entourage rocked up royaly and demanded a meal.
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I'm curious to know if the royal couple made it and had lunch eventually... Did they have a treatment of favour?
This Malin Peterzén, who talked with the Radio Sweden, told to Expressen:
- We had a lunch for full house. In the period, when we are gearing up for the evening, there came a family and wanted to eat lunch. The time was 14:45, and then we really have closed our warm kitchen. So the staff at the bar said we only serve simple meals. He did not recognize them.
A colleague showed up who had a better knowledge of ​​royalty. It was Crown Princess Victoria, Prince Daniel and children Estelle and Oscar there at the hotel.
- Then we greeted them warmly. They ordered smoked salmon and Estelle ate chicken skewers.
Peterzén has been told that Gustaf VI Adolf, the current king's grandfather, once visited the hotel.
- Since then, we have not had any royal visits.
When lunch was finished Victoria and Daniel looked around at the newly renovated hotel.
- They looked around and said they thought it was fine, says Peterzén who also asked from the couple if they could take a picture at the hotel environment. Malin and the rest at the hotel were impressed how friendly the crown princess couple was. They chatted with the guests who came up and greeted and were generally nice.
- We were a little star-struck all of us, afterwards, says Malin Peterzén.
Kronprinsessan Victorias lunch – på stängda restaurangen _ Kungligt _ Expressen

So, after Victoria and Daniel were recognized, the hotel wanted to make a lunch for Victoria and her family. It is quite understandable, putting a photo of the royals to the hotel Facebook is good marketing and spreads knowledge of the hotel to the people who may have never heard of it. The staff probably understood that the information of the royal visit would be noticed at the local media and then at the whole swedish media, just what happened.

King Carl Gustaf and queen Silvia arrived in Salzburg on Saturday evening at the concert of the Vienna Philharmonic Orchestra, conducted by Zubin Mehta. They were welcomed by Festival President Helga Rabl-Stadler
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