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Old 07-23-2016, 06:03 AM
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I have to say I'm siding with Chris on this one! Leonore seems to love an audience, whether at a christening or a photoshoot. I teach 4 year olds and have found that chasing them makes it seem like a game and they end up finding it quite entertaining. She needed a strong hand before they even came out, Madeleine should have just held onto her at the beginning and not let her down to then run off!
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Old 07-23-2016, 08:40 AM
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I agree, Chris knows his own child and perhaps ignoring her is their way of not allowing her to hijack every occasion. If she's anything like my niece was at 2 - 3 she's a quintessential "terrible two". Ignoring her was the only way to stop her outrageous behaviour because if she didn't have an audience she'd get bored and come to find out what you were doing.

If Chris believes that a parent, as the adult should be in control, then Madeleine chasing after the child gave the power to the child. He also probably had mental pictures of either he or Madeleine holding a squirming, screaming child. Not the ideal outcome.

But let's face it, with five kids under four at one photo shoot, things didn't really go too badly.

I think this might be the main issue: Chris is often away, and although he loves his children, he might not be so much present. So, logicially he lets Madeleine make the rules, but I think the have first to find a compromise on how to raise their kids.

It seems to me they have a discrepancy on the matter: Chris would like to put some rules and limits, while Madeleine seems to spoil her children and concede anything...

They have to work out a solution, because those little rows in public are not very pleasant to see.
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Old 07-23-2016, 09:33 PM
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I am very loath to make statements about Chris's parenting style or, more importantly, assume that because he is a businessman he is away a lot with consequent little input in the day to day lives of his wife and children.

He is not a travelling salesman or a long-haul truck driver, he is an investment banker/financier, so unless someone officially tells us, we don't know how often or how long he is away from home. Personally, I don't believe he is away all that often or it would have been just as easy for Madeleine and the children to remain in Sweden.
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Old 07-24-2016, 04:08 PM
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I am very loath to make statements about Chris's parenting style or, more importantly, assume that because he is a businessman he is away a lot with consequent little input in the day to day lives of his wife and children.

He is not a travelling salesman or a long-haul truck driver, he is an investment banker/financier, so unless someone officially tells us, we don't know how often or how long he is away from home. Personally, I don't believe he is away all that often or it would have been just as easy for Madeleine and the children to remain in Sweden.
He has said that himself few times. And by no emans I was epxressing any jusdgement, just giving my point of view over two different opinions on raising kids they might have.
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Old 07-26-2016, 09:49 AM
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I think this might be the main issue: Chris is often away, and although he loves his children, he might not be so much present. So, logicially he lets Madeleine make the rules, but I think the have first to find a compromise on how to raise their kids.

It seems to me they have a discrepancy on the matter: Chris would like to put some rules and limits, while Madeleine seems to spoil her children and concede anything...

They have to work out a solution, because those little rows in public are not very pleasant to see.
My feeling is that Madeleine is raising her children exacly as she herself was raised: with a very very enabling and permissive attitude. Honestly not a good idea considering her behavior as an adult.
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Old 07-26-2016, 03:05 PM
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My feeling is that Madeleine is raising her children exacly as she herself was raised: with a very very enabling and permissive attitude. Honestly not a good idea considering her behavior as an adult.
Well, I don't think any of the two way of parenting is wrong. I just believe that, if such different view exist, the parents should find a compromise... it could also very well depend on two different upbringings and cultural backgrounds...
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Old 07-26-2016, 10:23 PM
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It has been my experience that parenting styles often comprise a baseline set of rules and the parents wing it thereafter taking into account the different personalities of their kids. The imp, the dreamer, the pusher, the pleaser, all require different input from both parents and in the case of Chris and Madeleine, we just don't know enough to make "judgements" about them or their parenting styles.
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All children are nice some of the time.

All children are not-so-nice some of the time.

At this photo shoot, 80% of the children were nice all of the time.
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Old 07-27-2016, 12:40 AM
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Only 2 of 5 kids you could at all expect to, the boys too young. So 50/50 on behavior of the kids but Leonor is at hard age.
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Old 07-27-2016, 02:48 AM
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Regardless of that photo-shoot (Chris tired, Lenore scampish), it's interesting that in the last recent interview of Chris, he indicated that after a slight wait, he and Madeleine intend to have more children.
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Old 07-27-2016, 03:11 AM
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Maybe why waiting Realizing kids just over a year apart is a lot. Hope by time 3rd comes, Leonor will be a bit easier and Nico through his twos as well.
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Old 07-27-2016, 03:32 AM
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Yep.

Interesting watching Sofia cooing over her baby (same with Victoria) with all the drama going forth around her. Ah! Families. Agree with whoever mentioned how the SRF shows 'the way it is', the way families are.
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Old 07-29-2016, 05:29 AM
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Svensk Damtidning tells that the royal family made with a boat a trip to Sandvik one day, and had lunch at the local tavern. Sandvik is to the north from Borgholm.

King Carl Gustaf has been some days in Norway. He arrived on Sunday to Lærdalselvi in Laerdal. He stayed at the farm of norwegian billionaire Hans Rasmus Astrup. He went to fishing already on Sunday. King Harald came on Monday and stayed also at Astrup's farm, Astrup is his friend. And the two kings were fishing together.
Norska kritiken_ Vår kung är bästa fiskaren _ Nyheter _ Expressen
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To kongar er på fisketur i Lærdal - NRK Sogn og Fjordane - Lokale nyheter, TV og radio

Carl Philip and Sofia were yesterday in Båstad with their friends Jan-Åke Hansson and Josephine Yllner. Sofia is having a work event with Project Playground in Båstad today.
Sofia and Josephine ate crab tacos at Havsrepubliken. Carl Philip drove go-kart with his friends in Laholm.
Sofia och Carl Philip tillbaka där de träffades _ Kvällsposten

King Carl Gustaf and queen Silvia arrive to opera Manon Lescaut at the Salzburg Music Festival this evening.
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Photos taken some time ago, photo text
Prince Carl Philip with Prince Alexander, Princess Sofia, Queen Sivlia, Prince Nicolas, Princess Madeleine and Princess Leonore walk on the beach towards Sandy Borg, the ruins of an old castle, on the south east coast of Oland, Sweden. King Carl Gustaf went first with a dog. Prince Carl Philip goes last with Prince Alexander in a stroller.
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Bigger photos of the king and queen in Salzburg, from Getty Images
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Chris was also in Salzburg, here at the reception on the break of Manon Lescaut. His sisters Natascha and Tatjana were also there, and Eva O'Neill of course.
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Chris, Eva O'Neill and Natascha Abensperg und Traun with the king
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Tatjana d'Abo and behind her Natascha Abensperg und Traun
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Eva O'Neill with the king and queen
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King Carl Gustaf and queen Silvia will stay until Sunday. They are staying in Schloss Fuschl close to Salzburg and will on Friday listen Die Liebe der Danae and on Saturday at the Philharmonic concert directed by Zubin Mehta.
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Kungaparets glamourösa kväll med Eva O’Neill – och Chris! _ Svensk Damtidning
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Nice to see the 2 kings fishing together I like how close 2 generations seem to be
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Here's an additional gallery of King Carl Gustaf and Queen Silvia in Salzburg yesterday, August 4:



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Old 08-05-2016, 02:19 PM
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King Carl Gustaf and queen Silvia arrive to "Die Liebe der Danae" at the Salzburg Music Festival.
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Eva O'Neill and her daughter Natascha Abensperg und Traun
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Carl Philip and Sofia were at Avicii's last concert in Sweden, at Tallriken Arena in Malmö
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Victoria and Daniel were having lunch at Arkösund Hotel yesterday. From hotel's Facebook "Unexpected and nice visit from a seafaring family, we got today at lunch", so obviously Estelle and Oscar were also there. Arkösund is at Estelle's duchy Östergötland.
https://www.facebook.com/ArkosundsHo...type=3&theater
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Old 08-06-2016, 07:12 AM
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How I wish we saw more of the private, casual Daniel at casual engagements. He looks like he is just so relaxed and happy in his own skin. Less hair product, shirt out, deck shoes and no tie!
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Old 08-06-2016, 11:06 AM
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It has been great that Victoria, Daniel and the family have been able to spend their holiday without that many paparazzi photos or secretly taken photos have been published at the media or people's social media, I have seen only few. They are photographed enough at their official events.

Malin Peterzén from Arkösund's Hotel told to Radio Sweden P4 Östergötland that Victoria, Daniel and family stopped to the port when the lunch catering had just closed at the hotel, the family asked if they could eat.
Peterzén's colleague said that "Well, the kitchen has closed since the clock has passed 14:45 and now we make things ready for the evening". Another
colleague complained then that it was Crown Princess Victoria and Prince Daniel and the hotel arranged lunch for the family.
What did you think when you saw the crown princess and her family?
- That it was great fun and surprising, of course. They were like anyone really and very nice. We tried to disturb them as little as possible so they would be able to be like anyone. This because they were entirely private and on a holiday, says Malin Peterzén.
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